because he was presenting it as a possibility, not telling them that every other theory was wrong.
because he was presenting it as a possibility, not telling them that every other theory was wrong.
just because he's a fundie, doesn't mean i can't talk to him about it
I feel that if i present all sides of the dice, the very least the priest could have done was say things more along the lines of "we at the church believe ..."
i graduated from a catholic high school, and i remember them being pretty progressive. They never forced any philiosophy on us. We had history of christianity classes all the time, and they were mostly informative. I don't ever remember being told that evolution is definitely wrong.
not really, most of the people that work there aren't all that religious
I think even the principal would get a kick out of that one
jlee
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Originally posted by: TheChort
not really, most of the people that work there aren't all that religious
I think even the principal would get a kick out of that one
However, you cannot scientifically prove that statement to be true, so you'd be shooting yourself in the foot to state it as fact.
Evolution in a Christian school? I can see why you have to present options/theories to the students. How can they be good Christians without knowing what other people think (therefore making them better at debates)?
Still, it's hard to debate when you flat out say: "Hey, guess what? You're wrong! Imagine that! Lets debate now!"
This alien theory...that's silly.
Still, it's hard to debate when you flat out say: "Hey, guess what? You're wrong! Imagine that! Lets debate now!"
This alien theory...that's silly.
good point
i guess this is the one thing i kind of forgot when i was busy getting angry
But it doesn't change my opinion much. I still think the school could be a good Christian school, and be a little progressive
Jeff7
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I do not think that he means that sentient aliens came to Earth and primordially oozed you-know-what all over the place. More like seeding, that the elements necessary to create life came from a comet or asteroid.
Or granted, there is the slim chance that we are a biology experiment from some intelligent civilization. Not likely, but not impossible.
I read something Creationism as science:
?For instance, the law of gravity states that more massive objects exert a stronger gravitational attraction than do objects with less mass when distance is held constant. This is a scientific law because it could be falsified if newly-discovered objects operate differently with respect to gravitational attraction. In contrast, the core idea among creationists is that species were placed on earth fully-formed by some supernatural entity. Obviously, there is no scientific method by which such a belief could be shown to be false. Since this special creation view is impossible to falsify, it is not science at all and the term creation science is an oxymoron. Creation science is a religious belief and as such, does not require that it be falsifiable.?
- ?Ten myths of science: Reexamining what we think we know about the nature of science?, by William F. McComas
Summary: Creation is not valid, falsifiable scientific theory, and thus cannot be taught as such.
But the fact that science cannot disprove the existence of a God is insignificant. Unless one can prove his/her theory correct, it is junk as far as reality is concerned. Sure ID may possibly be right, but without evidence the chance that it is is near zero.
i think most people are getting it wrong
the idea is that we have still not been able to recreate life from the conditions that we believed to exist in the primordial ooze. So one possible explanation is that the basic elements on life (dna, proteins, maybe even live bacteria) crashed onto this planet in a meteorite.
Cerpin Taxt
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The way I see this is that the parents of the students in your school are wasting their money. I doubt that the parents are knowingly sending their children to a CHRISTIAN private school with the intent of having them learn a secular education. If the principal would laugh at "God did not create us." then the school is in a sad state of affairs.
I have no probloem with the comments made by the priest. They were appropriate for the school.
I have no probloem with the comments made by the priest. They were appropriate for the school.
easy with your comments there my friend. you don't know anything about this school other than the stuff i told you
uberman
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Originally posted by the OP.
"Priest: ...If people keep this up, I suppose one day it will also be acceptable to marry your dog."
I don't know about marrying dogs:however, goats seem popular.
Man forced to marry goat
From: The Australian
From correspondents in Malakal, Sudan
February 27, 2006
A MAN caught "in flagrante delicto" with a goat has been forced to marry the animal.
According to the local newspaper, The Juba Post, the goat's owner, a Mr Alifi, caught his neighbour, Mr Tombe, assaulting his goat and reported the man to the local council of elders for adjudication.
"It was around midnight when Tombe came to do his nonsense on my goat, and I was already in bed inside my house," Mr Alifi said.
"Suddenly I heard the goat make a loud noise. Immediately I rushed outside to find Mr Tombe was naked and engaged in a relationship with my goat. " When I asked him what are you doing there, he fell off the back of the goat, so I captured and tied him up. They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife."
Mr Tombe agreed to pay a dowry of 150,000 Sudanese dinars ($125) for his new spouse.
"We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together," Mr Alifi told the Post.
"Priest: ...If people keep this up, I suppose one day it will also be acceptable to marry your dog."
I don't know about marrying dogs:however, goats seem popular.
Man forced to marry goat
From: The Australian
From correspondents in Malakal, Sudan
February 27, 2006
A MAN caught "in flagrante delicto" with a goat has been forced to marry the animal.
According to the local newspaper, The Juba Post, the goat's owner, a Mr Alifi, caught his neighbour, Mr Tombe, assaulting his goat and reported the man to the local council of elders for adjudication.
"It was around midnight when Tombe came to do his nonsense on my goat, and I was already in bed inside my house," Mr Alifi said.
"Suddenly I heard the goat make a loud noise. Immediately I rushed outside to find Mr Tombe was naked and engaged in a relationship with my goat. " When I asked him what are you doing there, he fell off the back of the goat, so I captured and tied him up. They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife."
Mr Tombe agreed to pay a dowry of 150,000 Sudanese dinars ($125) for his new spouse.
"We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together," Mr Alifi told the Post.
OrganizedChaos
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you got off easy. when i was in high school i got pulled out of class one day to hear from a guy from narcanon(scientologists, gave us a lecture on how unless we sit in a tanning booth for 12 hours we won't be able to purify our bodies)
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Since it would only be an opinion, and one based on faith not facts, then perhaps he should be.
Radical atheists can be just as arrogant in their unjustified certainty as the radical Christians and Muslims.
Only we agnostics know the real truth about life, the universe and everything
42?
judasmachine
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Helllloooooooo...PRIVATE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL. Rant is worthless at best and knee jerk reaction to creationism at its worst.
fire400
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it's very contraversial, no doubt.
I've heard many say that public schools are a place to harbor weakness from society, in summary.
I've heard that private schools keep people from becoming who they really are?
The fact of the matter is, you can't categorize this one really. Some things are going to happen without you knowing, that's why I intend to teach as many people as I can to think and act for themselves on behalf of positiveness, rather than become robots to give beleive everything anyone says.
As for the matter about the evolution theory and how humans really started, James 1:5 from the Bible.
I've heard many say that public schools are a place to harbor weakness from society, in summary.
I've heard that private schools keep people from becoming who they really are?
The fact of the matter is, you can't categorize this one really. Some things are going to happen without you knowing, that's why I intend to teach as many people as I can to think and act for themselves on behalf of positiveness, rather than become robots to give beleive everything anyone says.
As for the matter about the evolution theory and how humans really started, James 1:5 from the Bible.
So? You're telling me that every single time you hear someone deny being an evolved monkey, you try to disprove them by getting furious and throwing your feces around?
It seems to me that you're taking this WAY too seriously.
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