WTF - more job drama... Am I in the wrong as an employee?

Orsorum

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Well, as any of you who follow my life :)roll: ) know, I work as a Community Assistant for an apartment complex near my university. I have two other people on staff, read this thread and this thread for descriptions of the two and descriptions of my job.

I was spending time with some friends in the plaza of my apt. complex and apparently we got a noise complaint, well, at least my friends did (I had been having a conversation with a few different people for an hour before this happened), my male coworker responded and asked them to be quiet - saw me, and he got angry. I spoke with him later and apologized. He apparently spoke with my other coworker today about it, and he's still angry. This other coworker came to speak with me a few minutes ago and apparently she's frustrated because of my "inconsistency".

There are three incidents about which she's upset:

1) in January, I had a small party with friends, we drank a bit; later in the evening (I had not drank for about three hours at that point, but was still tipsy) we went out to smoke some cigars; as we were smoking this female coworker walked by with some PD officers as they were busting a party. She came to ask me later why I hadn't offered to help, I replied that I had drank earlier and that it wouldn't be appropriate for me to assist at that point in time. She replied that regardless it seemed inappropriate for me to be outside with alcohol on my breath as a minor.

2) about a month ago, I let someone into their apartment (lockout); we are usually supposed to keep track of the lockouts in a duty binder, and the lockouts get charged a $25 fee per occurrence. This particular time I wasn't on duty, the guy just lived across the hall; the guy on duty was a ways away so I took care of the lockout, but I didn't have the binder, so I told the guy he'd be contacted later and charged; naturally, I forgot about it. He locked himself out a week later, this woman responded, informed him that he would be getting a fee, he made some comment like "well, Nate let me in and he never charged me", and she felt put on the spot because of that.

3) and, of course, this most recent incident with a noise complaint.

She has a point - I have signed a contract which I agree to abide by and enforce. However, with the first case, it is neither our job nor our duty to concern ourselves with alcohol, and if the PD had saw fit to cite me, they would have come and talked to me. With the second incident, I will plainly admit that I screwed up and forgot to record it; I am sorry for her loss of face but plainly state that there are worse things to be worried about. The third case - I honestly don't give a sh!t. We're being too loud? Good. Come and tell us to be quiet. Now if it's 3AM and we're playing bass that's audible at the other end of the complex, that's another matter, same as if I'd been rude or disrespectful. I've covered for my coworkers in the past when they've failed to respond to something or some other aspect of their duties.

I'm going to talk with my boss on Monday morning and lay this all out, get my side across before these other two people get worked into more of a froth than they already are. I hold by my belief that I've done an exemplary job with regards to my duties, and that I am capable of making minor mistakes, but not once have I put my colleagues in a situation of embarassment or disrespect, not once have I been derelect.

Bah. Always nice to hear other peoples' thoughts.

Nate
 

AFB

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Repeat : ATOT is not a blog.

BTW: They sound like they are pretty nosy.
 

bradruth

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1. Not a big deal. In fact, it was probably better that you didn't help because you were drinking.

2. You made a mistake and, while it's not a big one, you were in the wrong.

3. Since you're in a position of "authority," you should act in accordance with it. If your friends were being loud you could just say something along the lines of "keep it down guys, or someone I work with will come and then I'll be in trouble."
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: bradruth
1. Not a big deal. In fact, it was probably better that you didn't help because you were drinking.

2. You made a mistake and, while it's not a big one, you were in the wrong.

3. Since you're in a position of "authority," you should act in accordance with it. If your friends were being loud you could just say something along the lines of "keep it down guys, or someone I work with will come and then I'll be in trouble."

2. Yes, I was, and I will accept the consequences of that.

3. Same for this. I was talking with a friend and had been immersed in conversation, and I was quite frankly unaware that we were so loud - one of the disadvantages to the way our courtyard is structured is that noise echoes easily while not necessarily echoing back to the people making the noise. I will accept the consequences that come with this.
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: bradruth
1. Not a big deal. In fact, it was probably better that you didn't help because you were drinking.

2. You made a mistake and, while it's not a big one, you were in the wrong.

3. Since you're in a position of "authority," you should act in accordance with it. If your friends were being loud you could just say something along the lines of "keep it down guys, or someone I work with will come and then I'll be in trouble."

2. Yes, I was, and I will accept the consequences of that.

3. Same for this. I was talking with a friend and had been immersed in conversation, and I was quite frankly unaware that we were so loud - one of the disadvantages to the way our courtyard is structured is that noise echoes easily while not necessarily echoing back to the people making the noise. I will accept the consequences that come with this.

There you go. Just tell your boss you know that you made a couple mistakes and I'm sure you'll be fine.
 

Bleep

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he made some comment like "well, Nate let me in and he never charged me",
Besides some foulups on your part this is the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.
This person is not your friend and his statement to the other person is what basicly brought this whole thing to a head. I am supprised that you have not been fired or cencured in some way.
I would not go to the supervisor to plead your case until action has been taken against you in the form of a written complaint from some other person. It may never come to that. The whole thing is your own fault and you have to take responisibility for your actions. You need to mend up the problem with the other parties involved or risk your job. What will get you in the end is the failure to bill the lockout for the service rendered. your inattention to detail caused a monetary loss to your employer, this is not easy to overcome.
You are in the wrong in my opinion. Dont let your ego kill your job.

Bleep
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: Bleep
he made some comment like "well, Nate let me in and he never charged me",
Besides some foulups on your part this is the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.
This person is not your friend and his statement to the other person is what basicly brought this whole thing to a head. I am supprised that you have not been fired or cencured in some way.
I would not go to the supervisor to plead your case until action has been taken against you in the form of a written complaint from some other person. It may never come to that. The whole thing is your own fault and you have to take responisibility for your actions. You need to mend up the problem with the other parties involved or risk your job. What will get you in the end is the failure to bill the lockout for the service rendered. your inattention to detail caused a monetary loss to your employer, this is not easy to overcome.
You are in the wrong in my opinion. Dont let your ego kill your job.

Bleep

Mmm. The really weird thing is is that that's what this particular co-worker was least upset about.
 

Orsorum

Lifer
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And I don't really have a choice as to going to my boss, she's going to talk to my boss on Monday as well.
 

myusername

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#1: despite that you could have come off as a prick, you did the right thing from a legal standpoint. How could she ask why you didn't assist, and *then* say that it was inappropriate for you to have alcohol on your breath only after you had told her you were drinking?

#2: the guy who's door you opened? Yeah, he's a prick. In addition to being a fvcking dumbass for locking himself out. twice. Do not ever do him any more favors. If he ever needs something, go out of your way to make it as difficult as possible - while still legit. (i.e. intensely "by the book"). Also, remember where he lives - that will come in handy some night you get drunk with some rowdy friends.

Management could be upset that you forgot to charge, particularly if they conceive the idea that you did it deliberately as a personal favor. The chick is just a bitch because she lost face and couldn't handle the interaction. For your manager, an apology/acknowledgement/agreement to not do this in the future should be sufficient. There will be no resolution with your coworker. You should probably dump them off a cliff somewhere.

#3: yeah you kinda screwed the pooch on this one. *shrug*.

Look at it this way, if they [your boss] even remotely like you, they'll let you off with an apology. If they are looking for an excuse to can your ass, you just gave them one.

Either way, you need to start looking at alternative employment, as either you are more of an ass and troublemaker than you let on[i.e. we didn't get the whole story], or you are working with coworkers from hell. If it's the latter, I would put dollars to doughnuts your coworker is a self-righteous fundie christian.
 

Orsorum

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For #2, I never meant to do the guy a favor! I simply forgot that I had even assisted him, I had exams during that time and minor distractions tend to get forgotten for me unless I write them down.

For #3, yeah. I'll accept the consequences for my actions, and the worst they can do is fire me. I'm on good terms with my boss otherwise and I've had exceptional performance in every other area of my job. So maybe it'll all even out.

I'm working with a coworker who likes to create "drama", and thankfully she'll be gone in a month. I'm not a troublemaker, in fact I'm more well-behaved than most anyone I know. I am an ass, but I try to keep that to a minimum.