WTF!!! Liteon 24x10x40 STILL burns slow at 24x???? WITH PIC!!! (fixed!)

Imaginer

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Why the hell is my burner being slow?

It used to burn nicely at 24x in around 6 minutes. I am running XP with an 1 GHz Athlon and a K266R board and 512mb of memory.

Do i need to flash the burner?

Thanks.

UPDATE:: I did try to change to DMA but it still sticks with PIO and take a look at this!
 

shabby

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Crappy media? Is dma enabled?
My 24x liteon burns a 700meg cd in under 4 minutes with nero/disc juggler.
 

Imaginer

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I was using memorex and tried to set the burner to DMA but it is in PIO mode.
 

Legendary

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Go to device manager - click ide controllers then find the controller your burner is on and go to the properties and set it to DMA. Then reboot - without reboot no change will occur.
 

Imaginer

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i burned another CD with 650mb of stuff on an imation rated for 24X even. The CDs are fresh and the burner is slower than before! see picture in my original post.

Tried setting it to DMA but it wont let me.

Any other help?
 

microAmp

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Try looking into the BIOS to see if something might affect the DMA/PIO in Windows.
 

Imaginer

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The only other thing on the cable is the DVD drive and it is a ata100 cable

I have not tried the bios level yet. I havent installed a burner program on linux because i do main burns under windows.
 

Cat

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Is there a jumper on the drive to enable DMA? My Plextor 12/10/32 has this.
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: motoamd
Try looking into the BIOS to see if something might affect the DMA/PIO in Windows.

On my Epox 8K3A+ I had to enable a BIOS option to enable DMA for CD/DVD devices. This is a definite possibility for you Imaginer.

 

Shagga

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That's burning at 4½x not 24x as you have stated. Have you installed any of Intels "Application Accelerator" or "Chipset installation Utility" software lately. If you have, that might be one of the reasons you cannot select any other mode than P10. Is the Epox Board an Intel Chipset I'm not familiar with it.

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As Nero is stating it's burning at the correct speed (strange in itself) and it's taking so long, it does lead you to think that the CD Media may be at fault. Have you tried another type of media?
 

Imaginer

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I went into the bios and everything is set to auto for DMA. I know that DMA can be enabled because my DVD drive is set to UDMA mode 2.

There is a thing that says PNP OS installed and I select no for that one.

And I have an Iwill K266R board.

The burn used to be fine and I can burn around 5 minutes but now with the same media (memorex and now i tried it with imation), it gives me slow results.

I have not used any accelerators whatsoever.
 

Cat

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When the BIOS enumerates your devices, and the table pops up before running Windows, it tells you what mode each of your IDE devices is using. Make sure it says DMA, not PIO.
 

Imaginer

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I checked the back of my Liteon CDRW drive and has no jumpers for DMA.

Should I go ahead and flash it?
 

Imaginer

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Originally posted by: Cat
When the BIOS enumerates your devices, and the table pops up before running Windows, it tells you what mode each of your IDE devices is using. Make sure it says DMA, not PIO.

i paused the screen for a look and it only tells me that it is under ata33
 

glugglug

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Look at the bottom right of the picture.

It says the CD buffer is at 13%.

That should NEVER happen!!!

The reason the burning slowed down to 4.5x was to prevent a buffer underrun since the rest of your system is not keeping up.

Are you burning from a floppy? or just an uber-fragmented 15 year old HD?
 

magomago

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My guess is that you buffer underrun protection kicks in and slows the burning speed to allow your cache to keep up?

I dunno...I got a 12x Sony w/o buffer underrun protection that can burn an entire cd in the high 7 minute range.... (under 8)

Defrag your HDD....and possibly replace your IDE cables?

Oh hey, other people also said that...do it ;P
 

Dennis Travis

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XP will often set it at PIO due to an error while reading a CD and after that even if you have it set to auto enable UDMA it will still come up PIO. The only way around it is to delete the IDE controler that the Lite On is connected to out of the device manager in XP. Then have it auto detect it again and then try to set it to UDMA. It's worked for me on 2 systems with Windows XP. That could be the cause of the low buffer in Nero.
 

Boobers

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Have you installed the latest VIA 4-in-1 Drivers?

I have a KK266R and a Lite-On 40X. Runs perfect with 4-in-1 driver v4.43.

Do you have the latest firmware for your burner?
Click HERE then choose downloads -> firmware.
 

RanDum72

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Another suggestion in order to make it run under DMA mode is to uninstall/remove the IDE channel it is under and let windows reinstall it. Then check to see if DMA mode is enabled.
 

Mday

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imaginer, make sure the drive is the only drive in the channel, and dont do anything while the sucker is burning. and make sure you are using the latest version of nero.