wtf kobe suspended?

JS80

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Kobe should get a medal for elbowing Ginobili. I hate that guy with a passion. But wtf it was on accident. Inadvertent contact is now a suspension? Pu$$ification of the NBA.

Kobe Bryant was so stunned and angered by his one-game suspension, he took the extraordinary step Tuesday of asking NBA commissioner David Stern to convene an immediate appeal hearing.

Shortly before 5 p.m. ET the league turned down that request, meaning Bryant had to sit out the Los Angeles Lakers' game against the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden on Tuesday night.

Bryant was staying at the Lakers' team hotel just a few blocks from NBA headquarters in Manhattan and was on call to dash down Fifth Avenue to Stern's office if the request was granted. But barring the unlikeliest turn of events, Bryant was officially banned from the Garden for the Lakers' only visit of the season to play the Knicks.

"This is not the process we use at the NBA," Stu Jackson, executive vice president of player operations, said of Braynt's request during a conference call on Tuesday evening. "Certainly in theory, given the fact that the Lakers were in New York, we could have heard an appeal, but we never have. That's not our process."

"I've been waiting to play here, it's always been a fun place for me to play here, and I'm surprised. Shocked, by it, actually," Bryant said before his appeal was denied. "I unintentionally caught Manu Ginobili. What do you say, it's a basketball game. You unintentionally catch people with elbows every once in a while."

The suspension, for elbowing Ginobili while Bryant was attempting a jump shot late in the Lakers' game against the Spurs on Sunday, caught Bryant completely off-guard.

"I haven't seen a precedence for this. There's unintentional elbows that take place in a game all the time," Bryant told reporters at Madison Square Garden following the Lakers' shootaround. "I'm blown away by it. It makes no sense."

The NBA news release announcing the suspension said Bryant was being penalized for "striking" Ginobili.

"And the fact that this action by Kobe was an unnatural basketball act," Jackson added Tuesday evening.

Players association officials said it was highly unusual, if not unprecedented, for a player to be suspended for inadvertent contact.
 

slurmsmackenzie

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it's the rasheed wallace effect.

one purposeful bow to the jaw will draw scrutiny in the event of further chin music. maybe not just, but in a world of grey.... you make your bed, you lie in it.
 

yosuke188

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Originally posted by: waggy
what a cheap shot by kobe.

that as no accident.

:laugh:

I think everyone would agree that Kobe felt a little contact and was trying to draw a foul.

Plus, immediately after the incident, Kobe actually went up to Ginobili and said something to him (I assume he apologized for the inadvertent contact).

Even Ginobili himself said it was not intentional.
 

JC86

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bad call by the nba . . . a fine maybe, but not a suspension . . I saw the game, Kobe was trying to get some lift to get another shot off before time expired. I wouldn't say it was 100% unintentional because Manu is a little pu$$y but this doesn't deserver a suspension.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: waggy
what a cheap shot by kobe.

that as no accident.

:laugh:

I think everyone would agree that Kobe felt a little contact and was trying to draw a foul.

Plus, immediately after the incident, Kobe actually went up to Ginobili and said something to him (I assume he apologized for the inadvertent contact).

Even Ginobili himself said it was not intentional.


sure looks like a intentional shot to me.


 

slurmsmackenzie

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this is why i stopped watching the nba.

manu and the rest of the european tour is the wave of the future, while airballing gangster wannabe's like carmello can't even medal in the olympics.

give me football of give me death!
 

fustercluck

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I don't know if this lands on David Stern exactly, but it seems like it would have needed his approval. Stern has made a couple of bad decisions this year, and he's a real smart guy, but he acts like the conquerer of basketball. He changes the ball without consulting any players, and now suspends Kobe so no one will think there's any favoritism for star players, which in this case was unnecessary. Put Condi in charge! :p
 

miniMUNCH

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Fvck that!!!

Man this makes me angry... basketball is a contact sport.

That elbow should not get a fine, let alone a suspension...fvck, that wasn't even a foul on Kobe.

I have had my nose bloodied, my lip busted god knows how many times over the years playing basketball in HS, college, and now for fun.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: waggy
what a cheap shot by kobe.

that as no accident.

:laugh:

I think everyone would agree that Kobe felt a little contact and was trying to draw a foul.

Plus, immediately after the incident, Kobe actually went up to Ginobili and said something to him (I assume he apologized for the inadvertent contact).

Even Ginobili himself said it was not intentional.


sure looks like a intentional shot to me.

are you basing this "opinon" on the little bit of video from the ESPN link? HTF can you see anything well enough to be this sure about it?

from what i saw, it happened very quickly, there didn't seem to be any kind of premeditation on kobe's part and the elbow was just part of his motions, in other words incidental contact.

apparently the refs felt that way during the game as he didn't even get a foul.

HTF does stern suspend for an action the refs on the court didn't even feel was a foul?

 

Cruisin1

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Originally posted by: Adaman
I don't know if this lands on David Stern exactly, but it seems like it would have needed his approval. Stern has made a couple of bad decisions this year, and he's a real smart guy, but he acts like the conquerer of basketball. He changes the ball without consulting any players, and now suspends Kobe so no one will think there's any favoritism for star players, which in this case was unnecessary. Put Condi in charge! :p

It sure does seem like the NBA has some favortism to players though... Look at Wade, that guy gets foul calls just for someone invading his airspace.
 

zerocool84

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This is what happens when you try to mess with Obi Wan Ginobili, he uses the force to get you suspended.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: waggy
what a cheap shot by kobe.

that as no accident.

:laugh:

I think everyone would agree that Kobe felt a little contact and was trying to draw a foul.

Plus, immediately after the incident, Kobe actually went up to Ginobili and said something to him (I assume he apologized for the inadvertent contact).

Even Ginobili himself said it was not intentional.


sure looks like a intentional shot to me.

are you basing this "opinon" on the little bit of video from the ESPN link? HTF can you see anything well enough to be this sure about it?

from what i saw, it happened very quickly, there didn't seem to be any kind of premeditation on kobe's part and the elbow was just part of his motions, in other words incidental contact.

apparently the refs felt that way during the game as he didn't even get a foul.

HTF does stern suspend for an action the refs on the court didn't even feel was a foul?

not just the espn link. it has been on other shows.

as i said it looks intentional to me.

how he does it? i do not know or care.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Cruisin1
Originally posted by: Adaman
I don't know if this lands on David Stern exactly, but it seems like it would have needed his approval. Stern has made a couple of bad decisions this year, and he's a real smart guy, but he acts like the conquerer of basketball. He changes the ball without consulting any players, and now suspends Kobe so no one will think there's any favoritism for star players, which in this case was unnecessary. Put Condi in charge! :p

It sure does seem like the NBA has some favortism to players though... Look at Wade, that guy gets foul calls just for someone invading his airspace.

all the "stars" get that treatment. Jordan got some foul calls that were fricken insane. also there was times he commited one and was not called that just amazed me.

so of course it continues. the NBA is trying to re-capture what it had with jordan. so they give leway to some.
 

dbk

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Apr 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: waggy
what a cheap shot by kobe.

that as no accident.

:laugh:

I think everyone would agree that Kobe felt a little contact and was trying to draw a foul.

Plus, immediately after the incident, Kobe actually went up to Ginobili and said something to him (I assume he apologized for the inadvertent contact).

Even Ginobili himself said it was not intentional.


sure looks like a intentional shot to me.

are you basing this "opinon" on the little bit of video from the ESPN link? HTF can you see anything well enough to be this sure about it?

from what i saw, it happened very quickly, there didn't seem to be any kind of premeditation on kobe's part and the elbow was just part of his motions, in other words incidental contact.

apparently the refs felt that way during the game as he didn't even get a foul.

HTF does stern suspend for an action the refs on the court didn't even feel was a foul?

not just the espn link. it has been on other shows.

as i said it looks intentional to me.

how he does it? i do not know or care.

I'm sure Mike Miller agrees, too. :laugh:
 
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Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: waggy
what a cheap shot by kobe.

that as no accident.

:laugh:

I think everyone would agree that Kobe felt a little contact and was trying to draw a foul.

Plus, immediately after the incident, Kobe actually went up to Ginobili and said something to him (I assume he apologized for the inadvertent contact).

Even Ginobili himself said it was not intentional.


sure looks like a intentional shot to me.

are you basing this "opinon" on the little bit of video from the ESPN link? HTF can you see anything well enough to be this sure about it?

from what i saw, it happened very quickly, there didn't seem to be any kind of premeditation on kobe's part and the elbow was just part of his motions, in other words incidental contact.

apparently the refs felt that way during the game as he didn't even get a foul.

HTF does stern suspend for an action the refs on the court didn't even feel was a foul?

not just the espn link. it has been on other shows.

as i said it looks intentional to me.

how he does it? i do not know or care.

I'm sure Mike Miller agrees, too. :laugh:

Mike Miller's headbutt to Kobe's elbow was redeemed when Kobe tried to tackle Raja Bell's extended forearm:thumbsup: