WTF is wrong with parts of the U.S?

Aimster

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Black teens involved in a fight with white teen are charged with attempted murder by a jury of all whites. Charged were reduced, but the teens still face decades in prison.

Barker was taken to the hospital with injuries to both eyes and ears, as well as cuts. His right eye had blood clots, said his mother, Kelli Barker. Justin Barker was treated and released that day.

It all stemmed from a group of white teens hanging nooses on a tree where the black kids started to hang out. Those kids were given a suspension rather than expulsion because it was a "prank'. As a result fighting broke out for the next several months between the two races.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law...ll.jena.six/index.html
 

thecoolnessrune

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Originally posted by: Aimster
JENA, Louisiana

Black teens involved in a fight with white teen are charged with attempted murder by a jury of all whites. Charged were reduced, but the teens still face decades in prison.

Barker was taken to the hospital with injuries to both eyes and ears, as well as cuts. His right eye had blood clots, said his mother, Kelli Barker. Justin Barker was treated and released that day.

It all stemmed from a group of white teens hanging nooses on a tree where the black kids started to hang out. Those kids were given a suspension rather than expulsion because it was a "prank'. As a result fighting broke out for the next several months between the two races.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law...ll.jena.six/index.html

Questionable title: check

Involving two races: check

poster's background: check

*Dons flamesuit and gets launchair and popcorn*

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apac

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Originally posted by: Aimster
JENA, Louisiana

Black teens involved in a fight with white teen are charged with attempted murder by a jury of all whites. Charged were reduced, but the teens still face decades in prison.

Barker was taken to the hospital with injuries to both eyes and ears, as well as cuts. His right eye had blood clots, said his mother, Kelli Barker. Justin Barker was treated and released that day.

It all stemmed from a group of white teens hanging nooses on a tree where the black kids started to hang out. Those kids were given a suspension rather than expulsion because it was a "prank'. As a result fighting broke out for the next several months between the two races.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law...ll.jena.six/index.html

Christ, if you're going to post flamebait, at least include the entire article.

Residents: Nooses spark school violence, divide town

JENA, Louisiana (CNN) -- Mychal Bell was like a lot of boys his age, his mother says.

The always-smiling 16-year-old often spent weekends on the couch, munching Little Debbie snack cakes, watching football and dreaming of a day he might join his heroes in the NFL.

That was before police arrested the star running back and five other teens -- dubbed the "Jena 6" -- on attempted murder and conspiracy charges after a December 4, 2006, fight at the local high school.

Bell, now 17, sits in a cell in Jena, Louisiana, waiting to learn later this month if he will spend the next two decades in prison.

"He's not the same. He's grown up a lot since he's been in there. He's not the same ol' smiling Mychal he used to be," his mother, Melissa Bell, says. "I pray that the judge will go easy on him."

Mychal Bell wasn't convicted for attempted murder. The charges were diluted to aggravated battery and conspiracy, but undiluted is the outrage over the fates of Bell and the rest of the Jena 6. Video Watch how the case has divided the town »

Many in this sleepy town of 3,000 are calling Bell's July conviction a case of Jim Crow justice.

They question why Bell's public defender never called a witness in the trial. They question the all-white jury that took three hours to convict him. They question charges they say are wildly overblown. They question why the teen was tried as an adult.

And they say the fight never would have happened if not for the nooses.

A threat or a prank?

In September 2006, as the school year kicked off, a black Jena High School student asked the vice principal if he and some friends could sit under an oak tree where the white students typically congregated.
Out in the Open
A high school fight. A black teen convicted by an all-white jury. Soaring racial tensions.

Told by the vice principal they could sit wherever they pleased, the student and his pals plopped down under the sprawling branches of a shade tree in the campus courtyard.

The next day, students arrived at school to find three nooses hanging from those branches.


"I seen them hanging. I'm thinking the KKK, you know, were hanging nooses. They want to hang somebody. Real nooses, the ones you see on TV, are the kind of nooses they were," Robert Bailey, 17, one of the Jena 6, told the syndicated radio show "Democracy Now!"

According to The Town Talk in nearby Alexandria, the school's principal recommended expulsion for those behind the nooses. Instead, the newspaper reported, a school district committee overruled the recommendation and suspended three white students for three days for hanging the nooses, a gesture written off as a "prank."

"Toilet paper, that's a prank, you know what I'm saying?" Bailey told the radio show. "Nooses hanging there -- nooses ain't no prank."

A series of scuffles ensued over the next three months as racial tension at the school became palpable.

The district attorney was summoned to address the student body. Off-campus fights were reported. Bailey said he had a beer bottle broken over his head in one incident, a shotgun pulled on him in another.

On November 30, someone torched the school's main academic building. The arson remains unsolved, but many suspect it's linked to the discord strangling Jena High.

The attack

Four days after the arson, several students jumped a white classmate, Justin Barker, knocking him unconscious before stomping and kicking him.

Parents of the Jena Six say they heard Barker was hurling racial epithets. Barker's parents say he did nothing to provoke the beating.

Barker was taken to the hospital with injuries to both eyes and ears, as well as cuts. His right eye had blood clots, said his mother, Kelli Barker. Justin Barker was treated and released that day.

Bell, Bailey, Theo Shaw, Carwin Jones, Bryant Purvis and an unidentified juvenile -- all black teens -- were arrested and charged with attempted murder. The weapons used, according to the charges -- shoes. Their bails were set at between $70,000 and $138,000.

Only Bell remains in jail, on a $90,000 bond, and the judge has refused to lower it, citing Bell's criminal record, which includes four juvenile offenses -- two simple battery charges among them.

The Jena 6 say they are innocent. Bailey told CNN that by the time he arrived at the fight, students and coaches had broken it up.

"When a fight breaks out, all the kids just run to see a fight. That's just how it was," he said. "You really couldn't see nothing. So when I'm running to see what's going on, I got down there to the fight, it was over."

Attorneys ask judge to reconsider

Bell's new attorneys will try Tuesday to have their client's conviction thrown out or have the case remanded to juvenile court, where they say it should've been handled in the first place.

If that fails, Bell is scheduled for a September 20 sentencing hearing where he faces up to 22 years in prison. The other five await their days in court.

The case is getting international media attention -- a buzz that has drawn the NAACP and civil rights stalwarts like the Rev. Al Sharpton and Martin Luther King III -- but many in Jena are skeptical the boys can get a fair trial.

"Jena has been a community that has had self-imposed segregation probably since the '50s. They never got the memo," said radio host Tony Brown, who coined the name Jena 6.

Brown, who hosts a statewide radio newsmagazine from Alexandria, where he has lived since 1991, says there are still "righteous people" in Jena. However, he said, there is little commingling among black and white residents and the town often abides by "a Jim Crow mentality."

Bell's and Bailey's mothers concur, but Caseptla Bailey insists, "Jena's a good place to live. It's home. It's something that's in our hearts."

Kristi Boyett, a white resident, is not so nostalgic. She and her family are leaving Jena "because of the racist stuff that's going on here," she said.

She fears for her children's safety in the public schools, she said, and she's not surprised that racial tension in Jena has reached a breaking point.

"That's the way this town's always been. I've lived here for 16 years, and it's been segregated since we lived here," she said.

'We lost Jena'

Other longtime residents, however, paint a more harmonious portrait of Jena and blame the media for casting their town in a negative light. Mayor Murphy McMillan declined to be interviewed, saying only, "The media is making our town look bad."

Paula Brewer, who grew up in Jena, told The Town Talk in Alexandria that "everybody talks to everybody" and there are no racial boundaries in the central Louisiana hamlet.

"Where did Jena go in all this?" she asked the newspaper. "We lost Jena. We aren't what they are calling us -- racist and ignorant. Jena is a good town with good people."

Though some say race drove the decision to charge the teens with attempted murder, the victim's mother, Kelli Barker, doesn't think so. Had the attackers not been pulled off her son, she said, he could have been killed.

"I wish to goodness it wouldn't have happened," she said. "And I hate it for them parents. I mean, I can only imagine, but I also have to think about my child and my family."

Advocates for the Jena 6 aren't saying the boys should be let off if they indeed pummeled Justin Barker. Rather, they're saying the charges should match the crime -- and that the juvenile court should handle the teens' cases.
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Brown said he will use his radio show as a platform to push for justice until an appellate court throws out Bell's conviction and the remaining Jena 6 see a fair trial.

Brown said of his rationale, "My grandma used to tell me, 'You can't hang a thief for murder,' and that's what they're doing in Jena."

What they did was horrendous and unacceptable, but IMO the actions of the school district are equally so.
 

krunchykrome

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This is a story that is starting to come forward. I just found out about this a few weeks ago; the 'Jena Six" is what it's being called. Apparently, this type of favoritism is still present in many southern states.
 

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
A bunch of kids fighting = third world? :confused:

I think it's more driven by this comment:
It all stemmed from a group of white teens hanging nooses on a tree where the black kids started to hang out.
 

waggy

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while i think this is just a flame bait thread the story does raise some questions.

while hanging the noose was stupid. it was not a reason for the kids to do what they did. BUT seems the public defender was incomptant.

though they did stomp the one kid on the head (no proof the kid hung the noose. just used racial slurs). oh and the one they are bitching about has 2 convictions for assualt.
 

purbeast0

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From the story it sounds like the kid deserved some type of beating and definitely provoked something, although definitely not to the extent that he was beaten.

Also gang jumping someone is pretty weak to do.

Atleast now maybe the kid will know to keep his mouth shut and not provoke people with racist actions.

(and yes I realize I don't know the entire story at all)
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
A bunch of kids fighting = third world? :confused:

Where I live if a black kid beats up a white kid and he is released from the hospital the same day .... there is no chance he is going to be charged with attempted murder .

The whole thing is b.s.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
From the story it sounds like the kid deserved some type of beating and definitely provoked something. Also gang jumping someone is pretty weak to do.

Atleast now maybe the kid will know to keep his mouth shut and not provoke people with racist actions.

(and yes I realize I don't know the entire story at all)

ahh but there is no proof he put the noose on the tree. Also its the word of the kids that jumped him that they heard him use racial slurs.

who really knows if he did. I do know 6 kids jumping 1 person and stomping on his head shoudl be attempted murder. shrug
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: meltdown75
A bunch of kids fighting = third world? :confused:

Where I live if a black kid beats up a white kid and he is released from the hospital the same day .... there is no chance he is going to be charged with attempted murder .

The whole thing is b.s.

But you had BETTER BELIEVE if it was a white gang of animals beating up a black kid they'd nail him with a whole lot more than attempted murder.

This is nothing more than good justice to get animals off the streets.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: meltdown75
A bunch of kids fighting = third world? :confused:

Where I live if a black kid beats up a white kid and he is released from the hospital the same day .... there is no chance he is going to be charged with attempted murder .

The whole thing is b.s.

that is a really retarded thing to think or say. Being released from the hospital the same day should make no fucking diffrence to the assault.

I do agree something is fishy with the Public defender.
 

steppinthrax

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I don't really understand what your trying to say by thrid world. I mean is there some sort of justification for the black kids to beat up the white kid just beacuse the hung nuses in trees. Are you playing on the idea that certian races and backgrounds should get special treatment.
 

fisheerman

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I always love how these story start with the family saying "He was a good boy....."

Then in the article or news report you hear about them beating or shooting someone to death and then there lengthy rap sheet.

-fish
 

manowar821

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Everybody on the flame train CHOOO CHOOO!!!!

Honestly? They were hanging nooses? Why are these black kids not being REWARDED? Racism should not be tolerated in any way. This is disgusting.
 

Aimster

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If this is so common to all of you then maybe you should stop reading CNN.com for posting this story on their front-page. They wasted my time and your time apparently because this stuff happens all the time. NOT.

I don't know if you all sat in the corner in high school reading your WIRED magazine, but fights happen on a weekly basis at high schools. How many of those kids are charged with attempted murder?

Stop crying about my title. If you think what happened to these kids is justified you might as well plan to retire in some third world nation. The rewards are much better than Florida and whenever you pick up the newspaper you'll be reading about the minority being sent off to long-term prison sentences by a judge from the majority for pity crimes.
 

KK

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Would this fall under the hate crime laws against the black aggressors?
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Everybody on the flame train CHOOO CHOOO!!!!

Honestly? They were hanging nooses? Why are these black kids not being REWARDED? Racism should not be tolerated in any way. This is disgusting.

When I was a kid it would be encouraged to kick someone's ass over this. Nowadays law suits are the answer. This means the kids who did the ass kicking should be sued.
 

InflatableBuddha

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Kristi Boyett, a white resident, is not so nostalgic. She and her family are leaving Jena "because of the racist stuff that's going on here," she said.

She fears for her children's safety in the public schools, she said, and she's not surprised that racial tension in Jena has reached a breaking point.

"That's the way this town's always been. I've lived here for 16 years, and it's been segregated since we lived here," she said.


When even white residents of the town (who comprise the majority BTW) are complaining about racism and segregation, that's a pretty good indication of the injustice that's going on there.

The attempted murder charges are bullshit, but the worst thing is the lack of hate crime charges against the three white kids who originally hung the nooses.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: manowar821
Everybody on the flame train CHOOO CHOOO!!!!

Honestly? They were hanging nooses? Why are these black kids not being REWARDED? Racism should not be tolerated in any way. This is disgusting.

When I was a kid it would be encouraged to kick someone's ass over this. Nowadays law suits are the answer. This means the kids who did the ass kicking should be sued.

D: