Isuzu Tropper into conrete post @ 8mph.
$12,000 damage.
That's stiff.
The BMW X5 only got $2,200 :Q
$12,000 damage.
That's stiff.
The BMW X5 only got $2,200 :Q
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Ornery - nitpicking?? I'm sorry, but when you spend that much money for a car, the parking brake should work! I don't see how that's nitpicking...
My father got a new windstar a few years ago. This thing spent more time in the shop than it did out on the road. A few days after it was driven off the lot - there were squeaks and rattles all over the place. There were also many problems under the hood as well. They spent $18k for that POS, and I've heard too many "Ford Quality sucks" stories to think that they're a good car company.
My father got a new windstar a few years ago. This thing spent more time in the shop than it did out on the road. A few days after it was driven off the lot - there were squeaks and rattles all over the place. There were also many problems under the hood as well. They spent $18k for that POS, and I've heard too many "Ford Quality sucks" stories to think that they're a good car company.
So the brake doesn't work, fix it, big deal. Now what I have an issue with is the general cheap quality of all the cars these days. Unibody, FWD, space saver tires etc. All in the name of fuel economy. And there's nothing the dealer can do about those things. Hell, the damn glass is so thin these days that it seems more common to see cracked windows than not! Screw that. I'll sacrifice fuel for a husky vehicle any day.
<<. I don't know about you, but I've never had a door handle problem in all the Ford based products I've owned.>>
You must not have ever owned an Explorer, Mustang, or Taurus. The late model Stang's and Tauruses have problems with the outside door handles breaking, and the Exploders have a Huge problem with both the rear door's inner handles breaking.
You must not have ever owned an Explorer, Mustang, or Taurus. The late model Stang's and Tauruses have problems with the outside door handles breaking, and the Exploders have a Huge problem with both the rear door's inner handles breaking.
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<< Now what I have an issue with is the general cheap quality of all the cars these days >>
Yeah, I have to agree with you there. I hate to say it, but the "Cheapness" comes through with Ford more than any other car company. Chevy too, the new Malibu's and Impala's aren't the most reliable things from what I've heard. Dodge seems to be doing well with quality, though the 1st gen Neon's were pretty bad. Even Japanese cars are flimsy now, but they're reliable. They've found ways to make cheap cars without having them break down on you a week after you buy it
From first hand knowledge it usually takes a year to break in a Ford. After the first year they rarely break down/have problems.
American cars have always been crappy. I rented a ford contour last weekend. I think there is more plastic then metal in that car. It felt like a toy. I was affraid something would crack off when I pulled on it. But it did have a UAW sticker on the rear window, so I know who to thank.
I am not even going to talk about my 1990 ford taurus. What a piece of crap. I will never, ever buy an american car, with exception of corvette, viper, and hummer. The reliability track record is horrendous.
Japanese cars are heading there too, at least in terms of design. I think the last camry looked way better then the new one. It looks minimalistic now. These companies are spending too much energy building SUV's and not enough building quality cars. The only exception now is Honda, and German car makers.
I am not even going to talk about my 1990 ford taurus. What a piece of crap. I will never, ever buy an american car, with exception of corvette, viper, and hummer. The reliability track record is horrendous.
Japanese cars are heading there too, at least in terms of design. I think the last camry looked way better then the new one. It looks minimalistic now. These companies are spending too much energy building SUV's and not enough building quality cars. The only exception now is Honda, and German car makers.
There must be a reason why cars from Asia and Europe are in the top 20-40 over the highest quality cars and not a single one from the US.
Shoot, my Lincoln and van have "real" door handles that you actually put your hand through and push a big button. Yep, covered in real chrome too! Guess this means I won't be buying any new cars then. The "newest" vehicle I've got is an '88 E-150. It's pretty sturdy. I guess I better stick with the older vehicles from what I keep hearing.
I always used to say I'd buy Japanese when they came out with a V8 RWD. Naturally they came out with the Lexus LX-400 and Infinity Q45 a few years after I said that. Like I'm going to pay $40,000 for a car!
To this day, my favorite is the late '70s to early '90s Cadilac Fleetwood. I love the body style and it's possible to get one with a nice reliable 350ci V8 and turbo hydromatic. I might just do that. Hell of it is, the rest of my family wants the conversion van with the video games/TV/VCR setup. Damn, I'm the one that has to repair and maintain the damn things! :|
I always used to say I'd buy Japanese when they came out with a V8 RWD. Naturally they came out with the Lexus LX-400 and Infinity Q45 a few years after I said that. Like I'm going to pay $40,000 for a car!
To this day, my favorite is the late '70s to early '90s Cadilac Fleetwood. I love the body style and it's possible to get one with a nice reliable 350ci V8 and turbo hydromatic. I might just do that. Hell of it is, the rest of my family wants the conversion van with the video games/TV/VCR setup. Damn, I'm the one that has to repair and maintain the damn things! :|
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<< I am not even going to talk about my 1990 ford taurus. What a piece of crap. >>
OMG, so true. The early 90's Taurus' are such pieces of garbage. I don't think I've ever seen one out on the road that didn't have body rust and didn't look like it was about to fall apart. They're just not solid cars...
Jesus speaking from a person who has owned a 1986 Taurus GL, i can say....they were a piece of crap! There was not one time in a year that that car had to be fixed for something. It lacked power, it was loud and sluggish.
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hmm, I do have my share of gripings about new cars. Parents just bought a '00 prizm and the rubber seals around the doors and windows don't seem as well made as my '89 accord. Some of the new cars have basically no space under the hood. Like modern V6 compact fwd cars, how the heck do they assemble those cars, let alone fix them? I've heard (never verified myself) that for the new v6 accords, you have to take off one of the front tires to change the oil filter. I'd hate to imagine having to change like a water pump or brake cylinder on a car like that.
Ornery, if you still have a fancy for a Q45, consider getting a used one, I remember a while back that like a 92 or so Q45s ran in the 8-10k range. They seem to devalue pretty quickly when new while remaining decent cars, so might be worth looking into, since you don't seem to mind getting older cars.
Ornery, if you still have a fancy for a Q45, consider getting a used one, I remember a while back that like a 92 or so Q45s ran in the 8-10k range. They seem to devalue pretty quickly when new while remaining decent cars, so might be worth looking into, since you don't seem to mind getting older cars.
Gosh OuterSquare that would mean I'd have to invest in metric tools! LOL
Just got back from The Outback steak house and man, I am buzzed! I don't feel disdain for any vehicles at the moment.
In regard to the topic, all cars have some kind of quirk or two. If you've got the ride you've always wanted, simply fix what's wrong with it and drive on. If I were going to get the car of my dreams, it would be a Bentley Turbo R. Since $150,000 is a bit out of my range, I'd go for a nice 1975 vintage Jaguar XJ. The only reason that I don't own one now is the price of the parts. I have a feeling the Q45 would have similar parts prices. Yep, champagne taste on a beer budget
Just got back from The Outback steak house and man, I am buzzed! I don't feel disdain for any vehicles at the moment.
In regard to the topic, all cars have some kind of quirk or two. If you've got the ride you've always wanted, simply fix what's wrong with it and drive on. If I were going to get the car of my dreams, it would be a Bentley Turbo R. Since $150,000 is a bit out of my range, I'd go for a nice 1975 vintage Jaguar XJ. The only reason that I don't own one now is the price of the parts. I have a feeling the Q45 would have similar parts prices. Yep, champagne taste on a beer budget
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yeah high price of admission if you have to buy new tools. No kidding about the parts, they probably won't be easy to find either. Like recently I had the water pump changed on my accord and when I asked the dealership how much for the part, they said like 200 bucks. Good thing for autozone where it was like a mere 20 bucks there, I'd hate to think how much dealer parts are for luxury cars. Yeah reminded how buying the car is only a small part in the cost of a car, alot of it is in keeping it.
My parents 93 taurus with 180k miles on it has zero rust, it does have a dieing transmission though .
Ill stick to my 67 ford galaxie. I had some guy try to rip the side mirror off of it one night while I was at work and the only thing he was able to do was loosen the screws a little. Real metal and lots of chrome baby
.Ill stick to my 67 ford galaxie. I had some guy try to rip the side mirror off of it one night while I was at work and the only thing he was able to do was loosen the screws a little. Real metal and lots of chrome baby
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