WTF? Is my new corsair TX650 dying already?

[scheibler1]

Specs are in sig. I'm running my GTX 260 oc'd to 666/1450/1200 and an E2180 oc'd to 3.33ghz that is getting replaced with a Q6600 today that I will overclock. The Q6600 is going to need even more watts.

I notice that the psu makes a very high pitch electrical noise. Almost as if it screaming....the sound is the same and never fluctuates how loud it is. I thought it was my video card, but was suprised to find it was my Corsair TX650.

I've noticed this sound never happens when gaming or just using the computer. The only time it makes the sound is when fraps reads thousands of fps. I get up in the thousands of fps when loading up crysis where it goes through all the ads. Also in company of heroes or crysis when loading a game

What the hell is going on? Should I be worried

 

[Zap]

Electrical components can make noises. If it is noisy enough for you to hear, perhaps you have reason enough for RMA. Usually such noises are not harmful (except to your sanity) and are not indicative of a failure... usually.

Strange though... usually I hear noises from around the CPU socket area (when I have case open on my desk, so it is ear level).

 

[scheibler1]

I'm not gonna RMA it. It's basically still new and I don't have a backup PSU. Everyone was raving about the Corsairs...I wish I would have got another Antec or a PC P&C

 

[Quiksilver]

Any sound coming from the PSU area (other than fan spinning up/down) is bad, especially electrical buzzing. It's time to RMA the PSU. There's a few Corsair rep's on this board that can help you I'd imagine(I thin yellowbeard is one). Probably even cross-ship you a new PSU.

If you don't RMA, you risk killing components when the PSU gives out.

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: scheibler1
I'm not gonna RMA it. It's basically still new and I don't have a backup PSU. Everyone was raving about the Corsairs...I wish I would have got another Antec or a PC P&C

Since many of the PC P&C and Antec PSUs are built by Seasonic, just like the Corsair TX650...you run the same risk of running into the same problem. Silverstone had a known problem with this a while ago too.

EDIT: and NO I am not saying that there is a flaw in the Seasonic platform, I am saying stop whining about getting a possibly defective Corsair, because you had the same likelyhood of getting a defective unit from ANY company.

 

[scheibler1]

I'm not whining....my corsair psu is. I'm asking if this is a sign of failure and wondering if this is a known problem.

Even if this is just a defective unit then I won't be returning to corsair. I've never had a problem with antec psu's or cases...should have gotten another in the first place....even if they are built by seasonic

 

[Quiksilver]

So, your willing to spend more money on a more familiar PSU rather than bothering to deal with Corsair RMA rep's who are willing to bend over backwards to correct the problem? Man you make no sense, considering you paid a premium dollar and didn't get a correctly working product.

In any case this thread is now pointless, yes, your PSU is failing and you don't seem to care or want to correct it.
/End.

 

[scheibler1]

I haven't been contacted by any Corsair reps willing to do anything. I messaged yellowbeard.

 

[Zap]

You realize that the quickest way to get support is to phone them, right? I don't know how often the 'beards check in on various forums.

 

[Yellowbeard]

At the beginning of the 2** series and 48** GPUs, there were numerous cases of whining being emitted. An overwhelming majority of the cases were actually the GPU whining and due to the way the heat and sound travels in a PC case, users thought it was the PSU. Have you taken steps to isolate the sound and verify that it is in fact coming FROM the PSU and not THRU the PSU?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

Originally posted by: scheibler1
I'm not gonna RMA it. It's basically still new and I don't have a backup PSU. Everyone was raving about the Corsairs...I wish I would have got another Antec or a PC P&C

Since many of the PC P&C and Antec PSUs are built by Seasonic, just like the Corsair TX650...you run the same risk of running into the same problem. Silverstone had a known problem with this a while ago too.

EDIT: and NO I am not saying that there is a flaw in the Seasonic platform, I am saying stop whining about getting a possibly defective Corsair, because you had the same likelyhood of getting a defective unit from ANY company.

There is no truth in that statement at all!!
Provide a link if you honestly believe that...

 

[Yellowbeard]

Originally posted by: JEDIYodaThere is no truth in that statement at all!!
Provide a link if you honestly believe that...

You quoted more than 1 statement. Which one are you referring to?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Yellowbeard

Originally posted by: JEDIYodaThere is no truth in that statement at all!!
Provide a link if you honestly believe that...

You quoted more than 1 statement. Which one are you referring to?

Since many of the PC P&C and Antec PSUs are built by Seasonic, just like the Corsair TX650...you run the same risk of running into the same problem.

At best its an unproven assumption.

 

[Yellowbeard]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Yellowbeard

Originally posted by: JEDIYodaThere is no truth in that statement at all!!
Provide a link if you honestly believe that...

You quoted more than 1 statement. Which one are you referring to?

Since many of the PC P&C and Antec PSUs are built by Seasonic, just like the Corsair TX650...you run the same risk of running into the same problem.

At best its an unproven assumption.

I would not say "at best". However, there is no way to conclusively prove it with exact numbers without having the RMA numbers from both PC P&C and Corsair AND also to be able to extract comparable percentages across the entire number of units built by Seasonic for each company.

But, Seasonic is making a LOT of PSUs for a LOT of companies and stake their ability to make money on providing quality units with a low failure rate. I'd be surprised if there is more than a .025% difference in across the various branded PSUs built on any given Seasonic OEM platform assuming there have been no significant component quality cutbacks. So, I think the statement is a relatively safe assumption regardless of provability.

However, none of this helps the OP. If the PSU is defective, he needs to RMA it. If the noise is in fact being created by the GPU or a coil on the MOBO and being projected out the PSU, then obviously a PSU RMA won't fix it.

Corsair RMA LINK: http://www.corsair.com/helpdesk/default.aspx

 

[scheibler1]

Yes the GTX 260 does make a little noise. But I can clearly tell the noise is coming from the PSU...I put my ear right up at the back vent and hear it ticking, zapping, whining, etc. I also have the side panel of my case off right now.

I've started a thread on corsairs support forum yellowbeard recommended me...hopefully I'll get a response

 

[Yellowbeard]

Originally posted by: scheibler1
Yes the GTX 260 does make a little noise. But I can clearly tell the noise is coming from the PSU...I put my ear right up at the back vent and hear it ticking, zapping, whining, etc. I also have the side panel of my case off right now.

I've started a thread on corsairs support forum yellowbeard recommended me...hopefully I'll get a response

If your PSU is doing all of that, then you'll definitely need to RMA using the link I provided.

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Since many of the PC P&C and Antec PSUs are built by Seasonic, just like the Corsair TX650...you run the same risk of running into the same problem.

At best its an unproven assumption.

I didn't say the percentage of PC P&Cs that fail are the same as those of Corsair, I simply said he ran the same risk of running into problems with PC P&C. Perhaps it is semantics to you, but to me it simply means that there is a possiblity of getting a defective unit for PC P&C. Which is a direct response to the OP's statement that "everyone raves about the Corsairs...I should have just gotten a PC P&C" as if PC P&C has absolutely no chance of sending out a defective unit.

It is a proven fact, that there will be defective PC Power and Cooling PSUs sold, and I don't even have to provide a link for that. However, you can feel free to prove that there is no possibility of receiving a defective PC Power and Cooling.

As for Antec, depending on what unit he would have gotten from Antec...well it is outright common knowledge that some of the Antex units still available a year ago have fairly high failure rates.

EDIT: BTW if he had gotten a PC Power and Cooling and it were deffective and said "I should have gotten a Corsair instead" I would have said the same statement in reverse.

 

[scheibler1]

^^^I absolutely agree w/ you. It just sucks that i recieved a defective unit

 

[HOOfan 1]

"Stuff" happens. It is your money so you have to do as you see fit.
I would at least try RMAing it and giving Corsair another try before denouncing them as not worth your time though.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Since many of the PC P&C and Antec PSUs are built by Seasonic, just like the Corsair TX650...you run the same risk of running into the same problem.

At best its an unproven assumption.

I didn't say the percentage of PC P&Cs that fail are the same as those of Corsair, I simply said he ran the same risk of running into problems with PC P&C. Perhaps it is semantics to you, but to me it simply means that there is a possiblity of getting a defective unit for PC P&C. Which is a direct response to the OP's statement that "everyone raves about the Corsairs...I should have just gotten a PC P&C" as if PC P&C has absolutely no chance of sending out a defective unit.

It is a proven fact, that there will be defective PC Power and Cooling PSUs sold, and I don't even have to provide a link for that. However, you can feel free to prove that there is no possibility of receiving a defective PC Power and Cooling.

As for Antec, depending on what unit he would have gotten from Antec...well it is outright common knowledge that some of the Antex units still available a year ago have fairly high failure rates.

EDIT: BTW if he had gotten a PC Power and Cooling and it were deffective and said "I should have gotten a Corsair instead" I would have said the same statement in reverse.

Did I mention PC Power & Cooling in my response to you?? No!!
I stated your statement was an assumption that could not be proven to be accurate--
Your statement -- Since many of the PC P&C and Antec PSUs are built by Seasonic, just like the Corsair TX650...you run the same risk of running into the same problem.

Please learn to read what other post and don`t assume what is not being said!
Nobody not even you are stoopid enough to believe there is any brand that does not have defective PSU shipped on occassion...

Learn to read!! Thank You!!

 

[Leon]

Are you sure its power supply? The behavior you are describing (coil whine) is very common with 8800 and GTX 200 series of cards, especially in game menus like Crysis, where fps exceed thousand or more.

Leon

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Leon
Are you sure its power supply? The behavior you are describing (coil whine) is very common with 8800 and GTX 200 series of cards, especially in game menus like Crysis, where fps exceed thousand or more.

Leon

I've noticed the same sound even with my 4870 cards. Most of the noise seems to come from the psu though and the intensity of the sound was dependent on the psu.

My HIS 4870 and 8800gtx are the loudest when paired with TT toughpower 750 watt. Sounds like some one is scraping a blackboard.

Whats interesting is that the Palit 4870 with analog voltage regs (as aposed to digital for stock 4870) as far as I remember produces the least noise (maybe none, but I can't remember might have to chuck the card back in the comp).

EDIT: I was wrong, even the palit card makes that noise. Meh

 

[HOOfan 1]

Ok Yoda, I agree that unless PC Power and Cooling, Antec and Corsair release RMA rates versus units sold, that saying that PC P&C and Antec have the same failure rate as Corsiar is unprovable. Yes I also agree with you that my original quote was worded badly, and partially implies that the chance of getting a defective PC P&C or Antec are exactly the same as the chance of getting a defective Antec.

However, if you would have read my last response to you instead of getting so worked up, you would see that despite what you thought I meant in my original post, I was merely saying that it is possible to get a deffective unit from any manufacturer, even those with quality units such as PC Power and Cooling, Corsair and Antec.

Let me rephrase the quote in contention then. "Since many of the PC P&C and Antec PSUs are built by Seasonic, just like the Corsair TX650...you have a chance of running into the same problem"

BTW I didn't say you mentioned PC P&C, although you did in a roundabout way mention both them and Antec by quoting me. Not to mention the only time I ever see you pop up on a forum that isn't Politics or Off Topic anymore is when PC P&C's name is mentioned.

I agree with you that PC Power and Cooling make excellent power supplies, but I am not going to get into a mud flinging match with you about them..it isn't worth it. If we can discuss the matter without insults and calling each other "stoopid"(sic.) then fine, but if we are going to get worked up over this and piss each other off then there is no point in discussing anything.

 

[scheibler1]

well after joining the corsair support forum this problem is very common yet the mods there say it isn't. I read a bunch of threads just within the last 30 days with the same problem. Some of them RMA'd and got noisy units again. Seems like the lottery to me...

 

[Yellowbeard]

Originally posted by: scheibler1
well after joining the corsair support forum this problem is very common yet the mods there say it isn't. I read a bunch of threads just within the last 30 days with the same problem. Some of them RMA'd and got noisy units again. Seems like the lottery to me...

That's because a large majority of this is caused by the GPUs, not the PSUs. Which means, RMAing the PSU will not resolve the issue.