WTF! Is my 7750 actually a phenom?

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Originally posted by: zerogear
Did it show 4 core at standard clock? I think I might try setting it to 2.9 on a Kuma I built a week ago.

It showed 4 cores at standard clock after I flashed the BIOS. When I overclocked a little it reverted back to 2.
 

spittledip

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Originally posted by: dingleberrydorkbutt
Originally posted by: zerogear
Did it show 4 core at standard clock? I think I might try setting it to 2.9 on a Kuma I built a week ago.

It showed 4 cores at standard clock after I flashed the BIOS. When I overclocked a little it reverted back to 2.

LOL, didn't you learn from the first time you OC'ed it it reverted back to 2 cores? :p
 

taltamir

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so you keep on getting it to show 4 cores, then you keep on making it revert to 2 cores? why do you do it?

BTW, is the multiplier unlocked? engineering samples tend to have unlocked multi..
 

n7

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Hehe, fun thread indeed.

Enjoy your chip, OP...if i was you, i'd leave it once you get it working as a quad...that's a pretty sweet upgrade IMO :D
 

ther00kie16

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Intel might rebadge chips too. My friend ordered an OEM q6600 a long time ago and got an ES. Bad thing was that it didn't have speedstep for some reason. Nor did it overclock particularly well (think he got 3.2ghz max).
 

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Originally posted by: ther00kie16
Intel might rebadge chips too. My friend ordered an OEM q6600 a long time ago and got an ES. Bad thing was that it didn't have speedstep for some reason. Nor did it overclock particularly well (think he got 3.2ghz max).

Yeah those OEM chips are kind of a mixed bag because the quality control through the distribution channel is lacking. I bought 5 OEM Q6600's from Newegg as I knew the egg would be reasonable with me if I got something weird in the newegg box versus what I ordered. But really when you order an OEM chip you are depending on whoever packs the box and runs the company to be an honest business and person as it is not in Intel's hands any longer.

Kind of like buying computers with windows pre-installed only you find out later your installation of windows was a pirated copy...should have gone with Dell.

Same thing with OEM chips versus Retail. Intel packaging goes to extra lengths with retail chips to ensure that the customer gets what they ordered. With OEM chips you are just hoping that the distributor hasn't already gone through them all and cherry-picked out the good overclockers, didn't put back in the one they decided to push to 2V on LN2, didn't decide to swap out their buddies ES chip for a new OEM stepping thus causing some paying customer to get a crappy ES chip in their order...

I always had my suspicions, but if you spend much time on the XS forums you'll come to realize this happens all the time. Some of those guys are quite flagrant/shameless with taking pictures of 20+ CPU's they just got in, they test them all under crazy OC's, keep the best one or two, then ship the rest to paying customers who think their spanking new CPU is still a virgin.
 

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: ther00kie16
Intel might rebadge chips too. My friend ordered an OEM q6600 a long time ago and got an ES. Bad thing was that it didn't have speedstep for some reason. Nor did it overclock particularly well (think he got 3.2ghz max).

Yeah those OEM chips are kind of a mixed bag because the quality control through the distribution channel is lacking. I bought 5 OEM Q6600's from Newegg as I knew the egg would be reasonable with me if I got something weird in the newegg box versus what I ordered. But really when you order an OEM chip you are depending on whoever packs the box and runs the company to be an honest business and person as it is not in Intel's hands any longer.

Kind of like buying computers with windows pre-installed only you find out later your installation of windows was a pirated copy...should have gone with Dell.

Same thing with OEM chips versus Retail. Intel packaging goes to extra lengths with retail chips to ensure that the customer gets what they ordered. With OEM chips you are just hoping that the distributor hasn't already gone through them all and cherry-picked out the good overclockers, didn't put back in the one they decided to push to 2V on LN2, didn't decide to swap out their buddies ES chip for a new OEM stepping thus causing some paying customer to get a crappy ES chip in their order...

I always had my suspicions, but if you spend much time on the XS forums you'll come to realize this happens all the time. Some of those guys are quite flagrant/shameless with taking pictures of 20+ CPU's they just got in, they test them all under crazy OC's, keep the best one or two, then ship the rest to paying customers who think their spanking new CPU is still a virgin.

I hate buying abused CPUs :/
 

ther00kie16

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: ther00kie16
Intel might rebadge chips too. My friend ordered an OEM q6600 a long time ago and got an ES. Bad thing was that it didn't have speedstep for some reason. Nor did it overclock particularly well (think he got 3.2ghz max).

Yeah those OEM chips are kind of a mixed bag because the quality control through the distribution channel is lacking. I bought 5 OEM Q6600's from Newegg as I knew the egg would be reasonable with me if I got something weird in the newegg box versus what I ordered. But really when you order an OEM chip you are depending on whoever packs the box and runs the company to be an honest business and person as it is not in Intel's hands any longer.

Kind of like buying computers with windows pre-installed only you find out later your installation of windows was a pirated copy...should have gone with Dell.

Same thing with OEM chips versus Retail. Intel packaging goes to extra lengths with retail chips to ensure that the customer gets what they ordered. With OEM chips you are just hoping that the distributor hasn't already gone through them all and cherry-picked out the good overclockers, didn't put back in the one they decided to push to 2V on LN2, didn't decide to swap out their buddies ES chip for a new OEM stepping thus causing some paying customer to get a crappy ES chip in their order...

I always had my suspicions, but if you spend much time on the XS forums you'll come to realize this happens all the time. Some of those guys are quite flagrant/shameless with taking pictures of 20+ CPU's they just got in, they test them all under crazy OC's, keep the best one or two, then ship the rest to paying customers who think their spanking new CPU is still a virgin.

Actually, he bought a chip from an online retailer and it didn't say anything about condition so it was assumed to be new. I don't remember the retailer but I recall it wasn't an obscure one.

 

taltamir

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it could be that it is not intel's fault at ALL... someone got some ES chips that ended up in the hands of a retailer, who just sold them as "new oem".
If you held a paying job you should know that is how the real world works :)
 

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Originally posted by: alkalinetaupehat
Bookmark'd FTW. Anyone else thinking of the 6800GT days when you could unlock the extra pixel pipelines?

You mean the 6800 Nilla?

I have a 6800 Nilla that needs a capacitor re-soldered onto it. I never looked into unlocking pipes. Perhaps I could sell it since I'm a rotten solderer. :p

On topic:
This thread is awesome. I would go and buy my first AMD system right now if it was possible to do this with any 7750 Kuma. Unfortunately it looks like the OP just got a lucky ES re-badge.

Enjoy your chip sir. :)