WTF!! entertainment industry proposal that would authorize copyright holders to disable(HACK) PCs

Adul

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GOD HELP US!! :|:|:|:|

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-945923.html

update WASHINGTON--Congress is about to consider an entertainment industry proposal that would authorize copyright holders to disable PCs used for illicit file trading.

A draft bill seen by CNET News.com marks the boldest political effort to date by record labels and movie studios to disrupt peer-to-peer networks that they view as an increasingly dire threat to their bottom line.

Sponsored by Reps. Howard Berman, D-Calif., and Howard Coble, R-N.C., the measure would permit copyright holders to perform nearly unchecked electronic hacking if they have a "reasonable basis" to believe that piracy is taking place. Berman and Coble plan to introduce the 10-page bill this week.

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The legislation would immunize groups such as the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America from all state and federal laws if they disable, block or otherwise impair a "publicly accessible peer-to-peer network."

Anyone whose computer was damaged in the process must receive the permission of the U.S. attorney general before filing a lawsuit, and a suit could be filed only if the actual monetary loss was more than $250.



 

TNTrulez

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Call your congress man/woman up and say no. Also, is this law constitutional because you can always sue it to the supreme court.
 

Adul

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what really sucks if they delete some stuff that is important to you, and you are just out of luck. Not like you would be able to sue their ass. arggh
 

Kelvrick

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God damnit! WTF?!?!

Man, they're gonna piss of a ton of people with this. This crap they're doing isn't helping them at all.

This is goign to waste a whole lot of money. Ours, theirs, the government's
 

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I just emailed my two senators (Tom Daschle and Tim Johnson) in opposition to this bill. I'm considering emailing the sole house member in SD John Thune as well. I urge everyone to email their own Senators because this is the type of bill that should not pass.
 

Moonbeam

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But guys, in America you only need to worry if you're a criminal. Surrender your rights voluntarily and be safe from crime. It's worth it.
 

Martin

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let me get this straight. Hackers can now face life in prison for some hacking, while the MPAA and RIAA can do thatever the fsck they want?


:disgust:


Sometimes your politicians are like cheap whores.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But guys, in America you only need to worry if you're a criminal. Surrender your rights voluntarily and be safe from crime. It's worth it.

Wow, Moonie, we (sarcastically) agree again. What is this world coming to?
 

Adul

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Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But guys, in America you only need to worry if you're a criminal. Surrender your rights voluntarily and be safe from crime. It's worth it.

Wow, Moonie, we (sarcastically) agree again. What is this world coming to?

i'll surrender my rights when it is pried from my dead cold rotting hand.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Adul
Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But guys, in America you only need to worry if you're a criminal. Surrender your rights voluntarily and be safe from crime. It's worth it.

Wow, Moonie, we (sarcastically) agree again. What is this world coming to?

i'll surrender my rights when it is pried from my dead cold rotting hand.

That was the point of Moonies sarcasm... only I'm sure he would not be as forcefull in protecting freedom as you or I would. :)
 

Adul

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Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: Adul
Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But guys, in America you only need to worry if you're a criminal. Surrender your rights voluntarily and be safe from crime. It's worth it.

Wow, Moonie, we (sarcastically) agree again. What is this world coming to?

i'll surrender my rights when it is pried from my dead cold rotting hand.

That was the point of Moonies sarcasm... only I'm sure he would not be as forcefull in protecting freedom as you or I would. :)

i suppose i missed that in my blinding anger :| arghh
 

no0b

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So this law makes it so they can take the law into their own hands. Where is due justice, trial this is unconstitunional (SP?)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Adul
Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: Adul
Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But guys, in America you only need to worry if you're a criminal. Surrender your rights voluntarily and be safe from crime. It's worth it.

Wow, Moonie, we (sarcastically) agree again. What is this world coming to?

i'll surrender my rights when it is pried from my dead cold rotting hand.

That was the point of Moonies sarcasm... only I'm sure he would not be as forcefull in protecting freedom as you or I would. :)

i suppose i missed that in my blinding anger :| arghh

Well, I can understand that. I feel the same way with most laws passed these days. The difference is, for me, it matters not whose sacred bull is being gored. I support all freedom. :)
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: Paulson
The U.S. is falling apart, and I think we're out of caulk to keep it seemlessly together...

You know, that actually sounds frighteningly realistic... this is a complete and utter disregard for personal rights and due process.
 

Vic

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Wow, we're gonna give police-like powers to a private monopolistic entity so they can "fight the evil of piracy." Of course, piracy is only their BS excuse. Their real motivation is to shut down any would-be competitors, like indie bands, labels, and movie producers.
Any other rights that we, as good slaves, should relinquish in order to appease our government and corporate masters? :disgust:

p.s. For those in the Portland, OR area: Sen. Smith(R) gets my vote this year, despite his poor record in other areas. He sent me an actual hand-signed letter expressing his strong views against bills like these. Sen. Wyden(D) is iffy but on our side for now. Rep. Wu(D) has earned my votes for life, he is very much against bills of this nature and was even one of the very few who voted against the USA Patriot Act.
 

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I wish I could think of some intelligent things to say now, but I can't because my brain was just shut down by the RIAA for singing a song in my head.
 

Colt45

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Originally posted by: AmusedOne

Well, I can understand that. I feel the same way with most laws passed these days. The difference is, for me, it matters not whose sacred bull is being gored. I support all freedom. :)

Damn right. That's where its at. :D

Just because they're taking someone else's freedoms today doesnt mean theyre not going to take yours tomorrow. (And if you don't fight all right grabbing, it will be easier for them to snatch your freedom right from under your ass).
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Originally posted by: AmusedOne

Well, I can understand that. I feel the same way with most laws passed these days. The difference is, for me, it matters not whose sacred bull is being gored. I support all freedom. :)

Damn right. That's where its at. :D

Just because they're taking someone else's freedoms today doesnt mean theyre not going to take yours tomorrow. (And if you don't fight all right grabbing, it will be easier for them to snatch your freedom right from under your ass).

Exactly. They count on the complacence of those who are not affected by these laws.

To address this issue, this bill will never pass, IMHO. No way the government is going to give police powers to private organizations. That is nothing less than anarchy.