wtf? dsl limited by number of ppl?

[vexingv]

ok..so i'm trying to order dsl for my new apt. rite now...actually on hold...and csr says that its not available b/c too many ppl have that there's no space...i know its available! in fact i called last week and was gonna place the order but the start date was too early for me so i decided to hold off. wut bull is this that its limited by ppl...maybe cable b/c quality goes down w/ too many ppl and they may wanna limit users, but for dsl dont all you need to do is to provision the line...which is your already existing phone line?

give me advice...so i can explain to this dumbass verizon dsl csr who has no idea wut she's doing cuz she's prolly just using that standard internet availability check...btw its a new line thats why i dont it shows up in the system; i know my building is capable of verizon dsl--technicians visiting said its available and i've tried phone #''s of ppl in the building and they qualify

 

[Kelvrick]

It could be that they're not capable of supporting more people. Your line is capable, but they're not willing to make an obligation that they might have to fall back on?

Why don't you just try calling back, you'll get a different CSR.

 

[Nebor]

I guess it's possible that Verizon has too many people on DSL in the area, and it's getting too slow... But that's not likely. It could be slow as fook and Verizon would still be trying to make money. A t3 only splits between so many people...

 

[vexingv]

thats wut i'm gonna do...actually i got cut off...."this dept. is now closing" . wtf!

 

[vexingv]

dsl service doesnt degrade w/ increased users: it degrades b/c of distance from telco.

 

[Viper GTS]

Whether or not they have space for you has nothing to do with whether or not you WOULD be eligible if they had a place for you.

DSLAMS are limited in the number of connections they can support, if it's full there's no way around it.

Don't be a retard & think you know how to do their job, you obviously know NOTHING about DSL.

Viper GTS

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: vexingv
dsl service doesnt degrade w/ increased users: it degrades b/c of distance from telco.

Because the telco station has a magical internet connection with totally unlimited bandwidth? Uhuh. Sure.

 

[Nebor]

Don't be a retard & think you know how to do their job, you obviously know NOTHING about DSL.

Viper GTS

I like this guy, we think alike.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Because the telco station has a magical internet connection with totally unlimited bandwidth? Uhuh. Sure.

You mean the weird lady in the white coat was right? There aren't magic pixie faires? 🙁

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vexingv
dsl service doesnt degrade w/ increased users: it degrades b/c of distance from telco.

Because the telco station has a magical internet connection with totally unlimited bandwidth? Uhuh. Sure.

heh.


<--couldn't get dsl...EVEN BUSINESS DSL....because they ran out of "switch ports."

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: vexingv
dsl service doesnt degrade w/ increased users: it degrades b/c of distance from telco.

Because the telco station has a magical internet connection with totally unlimited bandwidth? Uhuh. Sure.

THEY DO??!! I want one!

Gotta love how the "it's not shared, like a cable modem" advertisements have worked just a little too well. haha. People forget that a 56K modem isn't "shared" either, but each ISP can only support so many connections. They understand that each 56K modem needs a connection point at the ISP but never stop to think that the DSL modem needs a connection point too.

ZV

 

[omco6]

I ran in to the same problem with Verizon once, you might try what worked for me. I used a differnt ISP who bought it dsl from verizon. They had space at that moment cost was $5.00 more but better then a 6 month wait

 

[Narse]

It is possible they are to full. The CO your POTS line connects to has so limited amount of ports for DSL. Until they add another DSL card in the CO they cannot connect any more people. They will open back up with more ports soon. They usually add in cards quickly.

 

[vexingv]

i live in a major metro area, nyc, to be exact...if i cant get dsl, then they've got serious problems w/ their infrastruture. how else do they expect to get more customers?

 

[Narse]

Originally posted by: vexingv
i live in a major metro area, nyc, to be exact...if i cant get dsl, then they've got serious problems w/ their infrastruture. how else do they expect to get more customers?

More People=More Demand=fewer ports in each CO

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: vexingv
i live in a major metro area, nyc, to be exact...if i cant get dsl, then they've got serious problems w/ their infrastruture. how else do they expect to get more customers?

They probably have a certain number of "ports" reserved for the other companies who buy DSL service from Verizon. And actually, NYC and other metropolitan areas are generally the first areas to over-saturate. Yet another of the many, many reasons why I feel that it is simply foolish to live in a city all crammed in with so many bloody people.

ZV

 

[vexingv]

UPDATE: called back...got it ordered w/ activation date set, order #, and everything

so tell me who's rite?

...j/p; i'm not a d!ck. i just want my dsl! thanx for clairifying some of the broadband myths. but happy ending to this story, hopefully...

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: vexingv
dsl service doesnt degrade w/ increased users: it degrades b/c of distance from telco.

I'm upset that this myth continues to abound. The difference between DSL is that you have a dedicated line to your ISP. With cable a bunch of people share it. But just because you may have 10 mbps each way to your ISP if they're splitting up a T1 connection between 4000 users in the evening you can rest assured that your vast bandwidth to the ISP will be unusued because bandwidth is a finite resource and an ISP only has so much of it.

I'd take a 1 mbps up/down with a cable provider who's got a bunch of oc 256 connections and only 10 subscribers, vs. an ISP running to the internet on their own 56k connection but is willing to offer me 10 mbps up/down to them...of course unless I'm on their website it's not going to do me much good is it?