WTF? A professor RAISING CUTOFF POINTS?

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gwlam12

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Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
That's kind of strange that for every other class, a 90 or 91 is an A-, but anything above that is an A... You said he didn't have a grade scale in the syllabus? Did you check your college handbook?

I agree with HappyPuppy about the integrity. Grade inflation is running rampant and destroying the value of earning good grades.

Edit: re-read your post and saw that your department/school policy says it is up to the prof. That strikes me as an odd policy... And it sounds like you're stuck with your A-.

that's how the policy is for my school, too. i dont see it as being odd because some classes are realy difficult and it is necessary for 70% to count as an A in the class whereas others are easy so a straight 90, 80, 70% scale is good enough. so yea, policy makes sense if you think about it

No, that just trains people to think that they don't have to work any harder just because something is more difficult - it'll just get "curved" in the end. Do you think it works this way when you get out of school? If the class is hard, WORK HARDER. You shouldn't be able to expect a grade that you did not earn. So you get higher grades in easier classes, lower grades in harder classes, you think that's not normal? If you were only able to earn a 70% in the class, do you think you earned an A?

I heard a few years ago that 50% of the grades given out at Harvard are As. Does that sound like the way it should be?


weird, but ive never thought that it'll just get "curved" in the end. if it gets curved, dang, i want to be at the top of the curve, so i work hard to get there. the thing is, when professors tell me there'll be a curve, that tells me right there that the class will be hard. i don't slack off. i work hard.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
That's kind of strange that for every other class, a 90 or 91 is an A-, but anything above that is an A... You said he didn't have a grade scale in the syllabus? Did you check your college handbook?

I agree with HappyPuppy about the integrity. Grade inflation is running rampant and destroying the value of earning good grades.

Edit: re-read your post and saw that your department/school policy says it is up to the prof. That strikes me as an odd policy... And it sounds like you're stuck with your A-.

that's how the policy is for my school, too. i dont see it as being odd because some classes are realy difficult and it is necessary for 70% to count as an A in the class whereas others are easy so a straight 90, 80, 70% scale is good enough. so yea, policy makes sense if you think about it

Hahah, 30% was an A for a CS class I took.

I had a professor that taught another course where the average was a 6. If you got a 6, you had a C (7=b,8=a). He also made everyone in the class write an essay on how they will never tell anyone that they took his course :)
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
That's kind of strange that for every other class, a 90 or 91 is an A-, but anything above that is an A... You said he didn't have a grade scale in the syllabus? Did you check your college handbook?

I agree with HappyPuppy about the integrity. Grade inflation is running rampant and destroying the value of earning good grades.

Edit: re-read your post and saw that your department/school policy says it is up to the prof. That strikes me as an odd policy... And it sounds like you're stuck with your A-.

that's how the policy is for my school, too. i dont see it as being odd because some classes are realy difficult and it is necessary for 70% to count as an A in the class whereas others are easy so a straight 90, 80, 70% scale is good enough. so yea, policy makes sense if you think about it

Hahah, 30% was an A for a CS class I took.

I had a professor that taught another course where the average was a 6. If you got a 6, you had a C (7=b,8=a). He also made everyone in the class write an essay on how they will never tell anyone that they took his course :)

Guess you didnt do so hot on that paper...
 

rocadelpunk

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have you talked with the prof. yet? Why don't you ask if he'll round up for you?

Have you turned in all your homework, been to all classes/labs, maybe should've gotten to know him better :0...maybe a blowjob? : )
 

stonecold3169

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Professors are allowed to make the scale whatever they like.

Fortunetely, it almost always goes in your favor, although most of the time it's because the course is unfair anyways.

I had a couple of courses, as some posters here mentioned, where an A was placed under 50%. It was an advanced proof course, and we had such gems on exams that you couldn't ge a 100, and you knew that, which was frustrating. I remember specifically a 20% point question asking to prove, using mathmatical induction, that there are an infinite number of twin primes... of course, if I could prove that, I wouldn't be a student, I would probably have a lot of money and be given honorary degrees from all over the world.

The point is, university isn't fair. At all. The trick is to be in that upper class that doesn't get screwed as badly, and you'll be fine :p
 

anno

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Originally posted by: rubenswm
WTF? I Just found out I got an A- in my macro class with a 92.5
He says the cutoff for an A is 93? WTF????????????????????????????
Every other econ class has had it at 92

Has anybody ever dealt with anything like this before? Department/Schoolwide policy says its up to the teachers- this is the first I've ever heard of this before..the curve driving the cutoff points UP. Is this just a weird professor or has this happened to anybody?

university grading scale at my daughter's school is 90-100 = A.. but she took a class this summer where the teacher had his own scale.. turned out it was the scale you're used to.. she :thought: it was 93-100 = A, because when she first read it her reaction was "what the hell? that's highschool scale!" 93-100 is the scale at our high school. she was some kind of peeved, because.. who ever heard of that? and like you say.. usually, if they deviate from the university scale, it's to curve a lower grade up.

she was some kind of sweating it, she does not like B's! it was really kind of funny.. she got her grades online.. first she yells I got 92.48! then she stewed for a bit, whether he'd round that to 92.5 and then round that to 93 for the A.. wasn't asking for much of a curve.. then she calculated her gpa with B+ and B.. then she decided oh well, it was the class from hell, she'd live with the grade.. then she announced that the class average was 66.8x.. there were only 9 people in the class (a majors only required for graduation must have a C to pass class), she'd just finished her freshman year, most of 'em were seniors, 3 of 'em were repeating it.. so I asked her what you had to get to get a C.. and she looked that up.. then she decided to look to see if there was B+, and there was, that was from whatever up to 91.99 and she goes.. wait.. I have 92... wait.. MOMMY!! I got an A! rofl. maybe you had to be here.. but it was amusing..

 

rubenswm

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Originally posted by: anno
Originally posted by: rubenswm
WTF? I Just found out I got an A- in my macro class with a 92.5
He says the cutoff for an A is 93? WTF????????????????????????????
Every other econ class has had it at 92

Has anybody ever dealt with anything like this before? Department/Schoolwide policy says its up to the teachers- this is the first I've ever heard of this before..the curve driving the cutoff points UP. Is this just a weird professor or has this happened to anybody?

university grading scale at my daughter's school is 90-100 = A.. but she took a class this summer where the teacher had his own scale.. turned out it was the scale you're used to.. she :thought: it was 93-100 = A, because when she first read it her reaction was "what the hell? that's highschool scale!" 93-100 is the scale at our high school. she was some kind of peeved, because.. who ever heard of that? and like you say.. usually, if they deviate from the university scale, it's to curve a lower grade up.

she was some kind of sweating it, she does not like B's! it was really kind of funny.. she got her grades online.. first she yells I got 92.48! then she stewed for a bit, whether he'd round that to 92.5 and then round that to 93 for the A.. wasn't asking for much of a curve.. then she calculated her gpa with B+ and B.. then she decided oh well, it was the class from hell, she'd live with the grade.. then she announced that the class average was 66.8x.. there were only 9 people in the class (a majors only required for graduation must have a C to pass class), she'd just finished her freshman year, most of 'em were seniors, 3 of 'em were repeating it.. so I asked her what you had to get to get a C.. and she looked that up.. then she decided to look to see if there was B+, and there was, that was from whatever up to 91.99 and she goes.. wait.. I have 92... wait.. MOMMY!! I got an A! rofl. maybe you had to be here.. but it was amusing..
llol
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: amnesiac
What the hell does it matter? You got an A-. A, A-, it's still an A. Be happy about it, jackface. Sheez. Some people have to whine and bitch about EVERYTHING.

well he's probably in college cuz he has a professor. an A is worth 4 points in your GPA and an A- is worth 3.7 points. It matters.

It isn't that way at every school. The college I graduated from doesn't have a +/- system. An A is an A.