Wrong Date on Ticket

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Hammer

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Originally posted by: Phocas
Originally posted by: Hammer
you have a good chance of getting the ticket dismissed. you just have to prove your were no where near that location on that date and at that time.

What world are you living in?

its not a small technicality like wrong name, or address or some other crap like that. date and time is probably the most important thing on there.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Are you all that ignorant?

Did you sign the ticket? Case closed.
I never had to sign the tickets they give you until you decide you're going to send it in by pleading guilty.
 

Hammer

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Are you all that ignorant?

Did you sign the ticket? Case closed.

signing a ticket means you agree to appear in court. it does not admit guilt.

you just have to prove your were no where near that location on that date and at that time

Do your reading and writing halves of your brain function independantly?

does your brain function at all?

if he can prove he was at another place at that time, what does it matter if he signed it or not. it already blows a whole in the cop's story. the cop will say he was there and signed for it. the guy will produce his proof he was out of the state on the date and time. that's enough for a dismissal.
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Are you all that ignorant?

Did you sign the ticket? Case closed.

signing a ticket means you agree to appear in court. it does not admit guilt.

you just have to prove your were no where near that location on that date and at that time

Do your reading and writing halves of your brain function independantly?

does your brain function at all?

if he can prove he was at another place at that time, what does it matter if he signed it or not. it already blows a whole in the cop's story. the cop will say he was there and signed for it. the guy will produce his proof he was out of the state on the date and time. that's enough for a dismissal.

Or the cop will say that he wrote the wrong date, and since the date on the ticket hasn't even happened yet, and the OP SIGNED the ticket, the ticket will not get thrown out.

If a signature isn't proof these days, what is? The ticket will not get thrown out.
 

Hammer

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Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Are you all that ignorant?

Did you sign the ticket? Case closed.

signing a ticket means you agree to appear in court. it does not admit guilt.

you just have to prove your were no where near that location on that date and at that time

Do your reading and writing halves of your brain function independantly?

does your brain function at all?

if he can prove he was at another place at that time, what does it matter if he signed it or not. it already blows a whole in the cop's story. the cop will say he was there and signed for it. the guy will produce his proof he was out of the state on the date and time. that's enough for a dismissal.

Or the cop will say that he wrote the wrong date, and since the date on the ticket hasn't even happened yet, and the OP SIGNED the ticket, the ticket will not get thrown out.

If a signature isn't proof these days, what is? The ticket will not get thrown out.


the key is to wait until after the date has passed.
 

MacBaine

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Aug 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Are you all that ignorant?

Did you sign the ticket? Case closed.

signing a ticket means you agree to appear in court. it does not admit guilt.

you just have to prove your were no where near that location on that date and at that time

Do your reading and writing halves of your brain function independantly?

does your brain function at all?

if he can prove he was at another place at that time, what does it matter if he signed it or not. it already blows a whole in the cop's story. the cop will say he was there and signed for it. the guy will produce his proof he was out of the state on the date and time. that's enough for a dismissal.

Or the cop will say that he wrote the wrong date, and since the date on the ticket hasn't even happened yet, and the OP SIGNED the ticket, the ticket will not get thrown out.

If a signature isn't proof these days, what is? The ticket will not get thrown out.


the key is to wait until after the date has passed.

The fact of the matter is, that he still signed it. The cop will say that he wrote the wrong date, the judge will believe him because the OP signed the ticket.
 

Legendary

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Signing tickets of moving violations is NOT a requirement in NY. It may vary by police department though, but it's not required.
 

rgwalt

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It won't get thrown out. Pay the fine, or see if you can get a deferment or if you can go to traffic school.

R
 

andy2812

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I never signed the ticket. It's not a requirement in NY. I'd have to think that if that cop can't get something as simple as the date correct, then how can the rest of his testimony be credible since his testimony won't match what the ticket says.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: MikePanic
ticket FAQ

read it - and pay the ticket... you're not getting out of it

Yeah but some of what he states is blatantly wrong, at least wrt NY. I've been to traffic court with a friend who got a routine ticket (alternate side). The judge, when shown that the ticket had his plate numbers wrong immediately threw the ticket out. He didn?t ask "Is the ticket yours?" as that poster suggests. That poster also suggests you can't get a routine ticket dismissed, which is also very wrong.

The bottom line is that if you schedule a court date and show up, you have a decent shot at getting the ticket dismissed or at least reduced. Don't listen to those saying you should pay.



 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Legendary
Signing tickets of moving violations is NOT a requirement in NY. It may vary by police department though, but it's not required.

Ok, I will admit to being wrong on that account. I'm not familiar with NY laws.

However, my replies to Hammer were on the basis that the ticket was signed, even though guilt was not admitted.

Even so, judges realize that small mistakes like that are not uncommon, cops are only human too, so they generally will not throw out tickets on a small error such as that.

Plus, if you testify that you were out of town and you were not the one to receive the ticket, you run the risk of purgury (sp) if they can prove that you were.
 

Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Originally posted by: Phocas
Originally posted by: Hammer
you have a good chance of getting the ticket dismissed. you just have to prove your were no where near that location on that date and at that time.

What world are you living in?

My own happy place. :)

Actually, here's a somewhat more credible post that refutes my opinion: http://www.prairielaw.com/messageboards/message.asp?channelId=26&subId=&mId=476381&mbId=52

And lots o links here: http://www.dif-ff.org/6/speeding264.html, at least one of which agrees with my opinion.

Here's another that agrees with me: http://courts.co.calhoun.mi.us/quest341.htm

You have the same odds of getting out of it as if it were the right date, ask a judge, or an attorney. If the OP were to go to court to fight this, and the officer were to show up (which 9/10 most do) the judge will not throw it out for *just* the wrong date.
BTW, 2/3 of your links are bad.
 

Hammer

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Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Legendary
Signing tickets of moving violations is NOT a requirement in NY. It may vary by police department though, but it's not required.

Ok, I will admit to being wrong on that account. I'm not familiar with NY laws.

However, my replies to Hammer were on the basis that the ticket was signed, even though guilt was not admitted.

Even so, judges realize that small mistakes like that are not uncommon, cops are only human too, so they generally will not throw out tickets on a small error such as that.

Plus, if you testify that you were out of town and you were not the one to receive the ticket, you run the risk of purgury (sp) if they can prove that you were.


perjury.

and yes he does risk that, but that's why he has to have the ironclad proof he wasnt there at the time of the ticket. plan a vacation around that weekend. have fun! ;)
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Legendary
Signing tickets of moving violations is NOT a requirement in NY. It may vary by police department though, but it's not required.

Ok, I will admit to being wrong on that account. I'm not familiar with NY laws.

However, my replies to Hammer were on the basis that the ticket was signed, even though guilt was not admitted.

Even so, judges realize that small mistakes like that are not uncommon, cops are only human too, so they generally will not throw out tickets on a small error such as that.

Plus, if you testify that you were out of town and you were not the one to receive the ticket, you run the risk of purgury (sp) if they can prove that you were.


perjury.

and yes he does risk that, but that's why he has to have the ironclad proof he wasnt there at the time of the ticket. plan a vacation around that weekend. have fun! ;)


he could still get nailed for perjury. Even if he plans a vacation on the date the ticket says.

IF he brings up that he couldn't be driving in this area on that date since he was out of town. All they have to do is ask the cop for his log. They are required to log all stops (at least around here) not to mention they have it logged when the cop called it in on the radio.

There is going to be proof that he was stopped on the real date.

but go ahead and go to court and LIE. i would like to read about how you were arrested for perjury.

just pay the fine.
 

Squisher

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Aug 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Legendary
Signing tickets of moving violations is NOT a requirement in NY. It may vary by police department though, but it's not required.

Ok, I will admit to being wrong on that account. I'm not familiar with NY laws.

However, my replies to Hammer were on the basis that the ticket was signed, even though guilt was not admitted.

Even so, judges realize that small mistakes like that are not uncommon, cops are only human too, so they generally will not throw out tickets on a small error such as that.

Plus, if you testify that you were out of town and you were not the one to receive the ticket, you run the risk of purgury (sp) if they can prove that you were.


perjury.

and yes he does risk that, but that's why he has to have the ironclad proof he wasnt there at the time of the ticket. plan a vacation around that weekend. have fun! ;)


he could still get nailed for perjury. Even if he plans a vacation on the date the ticket says.

IF he brings up that he couldn't be driving in this area on that date since he was out of town. All they have to do is ask the cop for his log. They are required to log all stops (at least around here) not to mention they have it logged when the cop called it in on the radio.

There is going to be proof that he was stopped on the real date.

but go ahead and go to court and LIE. i would like to read about how you were arrested for perjury.

just pay the fine.

They might even have him on video.

 

Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Legendary
Signing tickets of moving violations is NOT a requirement in NY. It may vary by police department though, but it's not required.

Ok, I will admit to being wrong on that account. I'm not familiar with NY laws.

However, my replies to Hammer were on the basis that the ticket was signed, even though guilt was not admitted.

Even so, judges realize that small mistakes like that are not uncommon, cops are only human too, so they generally will not throw out tickets on a small error such as that.

Plus, if you testify that you were out of town and you were not the one to receive the ticket, you run the risk of purgury (sp) if they can prove that you were.


perjury.

and yes he does risk that, but that's why he has to have the ironclad proof he wasnt there at the time of the ticket. plan a vacation around that weekend. have fun! ;)

Remind me not to deal with you in the fs&t forums.
 

Hammer

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Phocas
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Legendary
Signing tickets of moving violations is NOT a requirement in NY. It may vary by police department though, but it's not required.

Ok, I will admit to being wrong on that account. I'm not familiar with NY laws.

However, my replies to Hammer were on the basis that the ticket was signed, even though guilt was not admitted.

Even so, judges realize that small mistakes like that are not uncommon, cops are only human too, so they generally will not throw out tickets on a small error such as that.

Plus, if you testify that you were out of town and you were not the one to receive the ticket, you run the risk of purgury (sp) if they can prove that you were.


perjury.

and yes he does risk that, but that's why he has to have the ironclad proof he wasnt there at the time of the ticket. plan a vacation around that weekend. have fun! ;)

Remind me not to deal with you in the fs&t forums.

i'm not endorsing it. i'm just saying its a possiblity.