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Grasshopper27

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The endgame has begun ? not only with Iraq, but also with America?s friends. By escalating his threats against Baghdad and insisting he is unwilling to participate in ?the rerun of a bad movie,? President Bush is serving notice on Iraqi President Saddam Hussein that the time for prevarication is over. More immediately, Bush is also signaling U.S. allies that he is prepared to go to war with Iraq without their approval.
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So more or less, Bush has said we're going to war, we can do with with the UN and our "friends", or we'll do what's required ourselves and the world can thank us later for it.

Saddam is an idiot if he doesn't give up his weapons now. They won't do him any good against us in battle, so why keep them?

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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
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The endgame has begun ? not only with Iraq, but also with America?s friends. By escalating his threats against Baghdad and insisting he is unwilling to participate in ?the rerun of a bad movie,? President Bush is serving notice on Iraqi President Saddam Hussein that the time for prevarication is over. More immediately, Bush is also signaling U.S. allies that he is prepared to go to war with Iraq without their approval.
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So more or less, Bush has said we're going to war, we can do with with the UN and our "friends", or we'll do what's required ourselves and the world can thank us later for it.

Saddam is an idiot if he doesn't give up his weapons now. They won't do him any good against us in battle, so why keep them?

Hopper
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Maybe he just ate a nice big bowl of testosteroni?

 
ElFenix

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how long does the war powers act allow bush to send troops all over the place?
 
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the US will get plenty of support, with our without UN approval -- if the UN fails to act, then I agree with Bushy that the UN become irrelevant. 12yrs is long enough.
 
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
how long does the war powers act allow bush to send troops all over the place?
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Senate approves Iraq war resolution

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.

Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.
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The resolution requires Bush to declare to Congress either before or within 48 hours after beginning military action that diplomatic efforts to enforce the U.N. resolutions have failed.

Bush also must certify that action against Iraq would not hinder efforts to pursue the al Qaeda terrorist network that attacked New York and Washington last year. And it requires the administration to report to Congress on the progress of any war with Iraq every 60 days.

The measure passed the Senate and House by wider margins than the 1991 resolution that empowered the current president's father to go to war to expel Iraq from Kuwait. That measure passed 250-183 in the House and 52-47 in the Senate.
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We are already past that stage.

 
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I think if the US has to go in alone, we keep the friggin' oil for ourselves. That'll teach those whiny French...

And the Germans! I thought they had some balls, what the heck happened to make them to so damned... wimpy?
 
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Originally posted by: Ime
I think if the US has to go in alone, we keep the friggin' oil for ourselves. That'll teach those whiny French...

And the Germans! I thought they had some balls, what the heck happened to make them to so damned... wimpy?
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Both Germany and France had their asses handed to them in WWII...
 
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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: zodder
Both Germany and France had their asses handed to them in WWII...
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The Germans handed out a few ass kickings, too.
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Very true. Indeed, they almost won, but in the end...
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I think that we are all agreed that France played the role of the red-headed step-child in WWII.
 
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Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: zodder
Both Germany and France had their asses handed to them in WWII...
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The Germans handed out a few ass kickings, too.
Click to expand...

Very true. Indeed, they almost won, but in the end...
Click to expand...

I think that we are all agreed that France played the role of the red-headed step-child in WWII.
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lol
 
Kadarin

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: zodder
Both Germany and France had their asses handed to them in WWII...
Click to expand...
The Germans handed out a few ass kickings, too.
Click to expand...

Very true. Indeed, they almost won, but in the end...
Click to expand...

I think that we are all agreed that France played the role of the red-headed step-child in WWII.
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Heh.. well, France (stupidly) failed to understand the importance of mobility in the modern battlefield, and put all of their eggs into the flimsy basket of the Maginot line. Result: Germany does an end-run around France's fixed fortifications, and France quickly falls to Hitler's control. Oops.
 
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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: zodder
Both Germany and France had their asses handed to them in WWII...
Click to expand...
The Germans handed out a few ass kickings, too.
Click to expand...

Very true. Indeed, they almost won, but in the end...
Click to expand...

I think that we are all agreed that France played the role of the red-headed step-child in WWII.
Click to expand...

Heh.. well, France (stupidly) failed to understand the importance of mobility in the modern battlefield, and put all of their eggs into the flimsy basket of the Maginot line. Result: Germany does an end-run around France's fixed fortifications, and France quickly falls to Hitler's control. Oops.
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Hehe...the best line I've seen to summarize that is "The Germans coming through Belgium? Again? Never!" ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
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The endgame has begun ? not only with Iraq, but also with America?s friends. By escalating his threats against Baghdad and insisting he is unwilling to participate in ?the rerun of a bad movie,? President Bush is serving notice on Iraqi President Saddam Hussein that the time for prevarication is over. More immediately, Bush is also signaling U.S. allies that he is prepared to go to war with Iraq without their approval.
Click to expand...

So more or less, Bush has said we're going to war, we can do with with the UN and our "friends", or we'll do what's required ourselves and the world can thank us later for it.

Saddam is an idiot if he doesn't give up his weapons now. They won't do him any good against us in battle, so why keep them?

Hopper
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There was a report today that the military is ready.
Japan ordered its iraqi embassy workers home, asap.
President's state of the union is next week.
New moon is feb 1st(cover of darkness).


Anyone care for a friendly wager?
 
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