WoW: What next?

[warcrow]

Alright guys, I'm glad to say that after my rough time in SM (Link Located Here), I can now run through all the instances really really well. I've aquired all the great gear from there thanks for some of you. They are:

Illusionary Rod

Whitemane's Chapeua

Beguiler's Robes

I've even hit level 40, got my mount and Shadowform. I'm a true nightmare now. :evil:

So, anyways. What is my next step? What instance should I hit? What gear should I go for, for a caster? I plan on staying spec'd as a Shadow Priest until level 60, where I will respect as Holy for Raids.

 

[gsaldivar]

Razorfen Downs 38-42 Loot
Uldaman 36-45 Loot
Mauradon 37-50 Loot

 

[torpid]

Maraudon is really not worth attempting until mid to high 40's. RFD is ok, but you won't run it repeatedly like SM since there are only a couple of items worth having. Uldaman is ok, nothing too spectacular. Basically, until you can do Zul Farrak and Maraudon, most of your time is probably best spent questing as a shadow spec, with occasional runs through the above.

 

[Quixfire]

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Razorfen Downs 38-42 Loot
Uldaman 36-45 Loot

I recommend these too plus the quests in the Badlands and Desolace.

 

[warcrow]

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=17375

 

[jdport]

Sunken Temple is a cool instance, I seem to recall a quest there gave me a really nice hat (I was a priest as well) and that is a 40's dungeon.

 

[gsaldivar]

Originally posted by: warcrow
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=17375

That's a regular mob drop (a.k.a. very rare and useless to farm). Focus on regular named & boss-drops for equipping your character. :thumbsup:

Keep an eye out for this when you start running BRD: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=4904 :beer:

 

[gsaldivar]

Originally posted by: jdport
Sunken Temple is a cool instance, I seem to recall a quest there gave me a really nice hat (I was a priest as well) and that is a 40's dungeon.

Sunken Temple is 50-55.

 

[Litchfield285]

Back when I was in my mid 40's I found Uldaman very satisfying, even though a lot of people hate it. Decent way to get xp. Uldaman from 42-46, Zul Farrak from 46-48, and Maraudon from 48-52 and you'll be set. All decent instances and easy to get a group for especially if you're a priest.

 

[thawolfman]

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=37916

Scroll down - That's next

 

[Concillian]

I would definitely do Razorfen Downs next (RFD is the common abbreviation) It has a decent neck reward for a priest as I recall. It's also one of the first instances with common 5+ pulls. It is a challenge in that aggro must be handled a bit differently from almost all past instances.

I found Uldaman quite frustrating in that it has the first linked mobs of non-elites. You think you have a single pull and you get like 8 non-elites + 2 elites or something like that. Inexperienced players tend to freak out and die... a LOT. The final boss of Uldaman is one of the tougher for equal level characters and if you don't have someone with experience of the encounter you will probably have to try a couple times before you get it right. I did a lot of corpse runs in Uldaman with pick-up groups (PUGs) and never completed the instance with a PUG. I'm about high enough with my warrior to try it, and think as warrior I could manage to do it with a decent PUG, but I won't have to as we have a group of guild members at that level.

I would put Zul Farrak next on the list, then Maraudon then Sunken Temple. My priest got some nice stuff in Sunken Temple as I recall.

 

[oogabooga]

lvl 40-50 were rough on my priest. They just.. kinda seemed slow.

As far as instancing and good levels to attempt them? (the level, higher is better for farming, but to attempt..)

RFD 40
ZF 47
Mara 50 (for princess, i didn't find anything else in mara worth getting)
Sunken Temple 52
BRD 55-57 (depending on the rest of your group)
Scholo/Strat/BRS 58 is usually fine.
DM e 56
DM w / N / tribute 60

Uldaman is a pretty rough instance, and unless your an enchanter, probally has nothing worth while. Even RFD has very few desirable things.
i spent most of 40-60 just grindinggrindinggrinding. Mara has a nice head,eye, and even dagger. And then everything after there is just wonderful amounts of gear.

I wear the Cheif Architecht's Monocle over my Halo of Transcendence cause i like it that much I even considered slapping the 150mana libram on that instead of the halo. Had i known about 1.7 ZG loots, i probally would have

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: warcrow
Alright guys, I'm glad to say that after my rough time in SM (Link Located Here), I can now run through all the instances really really well. I've aquired all the great gear from there thanks for some of you. They are:

Illusionary Rod

Whitemane's Chapeua

Beguiler's Robes

I've even hit level 40, got my mount and Shadowform. I'm a true nightmare now. :evil:

So, anyways. What is my next step? What instance should I hit? What gear should I go for, for a caster? I plan on staying spec'd as a Shadow Priest until level 60, where I will respect as Holy for Raids.

As a priest you'll be more desireable to groups if your holy spec'd now. Its damn hard to find a healer for instances on my server (deathwing).

I've honestly just been grinding out my levels recently.

I wouldn't go to ST until you hit at least 50. Boss in there can be a b!tch to take down.

 

[TallBill]

sell your account, go back to diablo2

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: Rent

As a priest you'll be more desireable to groups if your holy spec'd now. Its damn hard to find a healer for instances on my server (deathwing).

Honestly, I don't think it makes a huge difference. As you say, healers are tough to come by, people are happy with what they get. Even though I have significant points in holy tree, I have never had anyone ask me what spec I was when I grouped with them, and I've been through Scholo and other level 60 instances.

Grouping is less about spec than player experience with what skills are best used in the different types of situations you are presented with. The game is pretty balanced (easy?) in the non-raid portion of the game as not really needing any specific talent point specs.

 

[Velk]

With full shadow spec your healing is more than adequate, don't consider respeccing until 60 ( In general terms, with full shadow your healing is an 8, and your damage is an 8 - switch to holy and you get healing 9, damage 2 - i.e. soloing takes 4x as long ). As you have probably already noticed though, groups will tend to take a dim view of you using shadowform and nuking things.

There's also a good group elite outdoor area called Jintha'Alor in the hinterlands which has some excellent quest rewards ( for horde at least, I am not sure what alliance gets - do they start neutral to revantusk trolls also ? )

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: Velk

( In general terms, with full shadow your healing is an 8, and your damage is an 8 - switch to holy and you get healing 9, damage 2 - i.e. soloing takes 4x as long ).

That's as bad a misconception as Rent made in the holy priest grouping argument. I soloed with a holy priest and a shadow priest. It's not even a factor of two difference let alone 4. Yes, it takes longer holy, but not that much longer. Unless you don't take spirit tap, which would be soloing suicide (or require a lot of drink purchases). It's just as holy you rely more on your wand or staff damage (generally wand) instead of spell damage. Wand + DOT damage is well over half of what you do as full shadow.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: jdport
Sunken Temple is a cool instance, I seem to recall a quest there gave me a really nice hat (I was a priest as well) and that is a 40's dungeon.

ST is 50s, not 40s.

 

[Sassy]

Here is a link you may find interesting and should answer some of your questions

 

[nageov3t]

alliance or horde?

for alliance, at least, I'd say your next instances are Uldaman, Zul'Farrak, and Mauradon (in that order).

between instances, Tanaris and Feralas have great low-mid 40's quests.

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: Concillian

Originally posted by: Velk

( In general terms, with full shadow your healing is an 8, and your damage is an 8 - switch to holy and you get healing 9, damage 2 - i.e. soloing takes 4x as long ).

That's as bad a misconception as Rent made in the holy priest grouping argument. I soloed with a holy priest and a shadow priest. It's not even a factor of two difference let alone 4. Yes, it takes longer holy, but not that much longer. Unless you don't take spirit tap, which would be soloing suicide (or require a lot of drink purchases). It's just as holy you rely more on your wand or staff damage (generally wand) instead of spell damage. Wand + DOT damage is well over half of what you do as full shadow.

I suspect your comparison may be of very low level characters. With +10% shadow talent, shadow form, shadow weaving and +shadow gear, shadow word pain does more than a holy priest's sw and his wand *by itself*. On top of that is added staggering damage from mindflay. I'll stick a log comparison in when I get home so you can compare yourself.

 

[Acanthus]

disc owns holy and shadow anyway no need to compare

15 sec cooldown on PWS is the single best talent for the priest. No joke.

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: Velk

Originally posted by: Concillian

Originally posted by: Velk

( In general terms, with full shadow your healing is an 8, and your damage is an 8 - switch to holy and you get healing 9, damage 2 - i.e. soloing takes 4x as long ).

That's as bad a misconception as Rent made in the holy priest grouping argument. I soloed with a holy priest and a shadow priest. It's not even a factor of two difference let alone 4. Yes, it takes longer holy, but not that much longer. Unless you don't take spirit tap, which would be soloing suicide (or require a lot of drink purchases). It's just as holy you rely more on your wand or staff damage (generally wand) instead of spell damage. Wand + DOT damage is well over half of what you do as full shadow.

I suspect your comparison may be of very low level characters.

Unless you consider level 55 'low level' I don't think I am comparing very low level characters. You're simply way off base with your 4x comment.

You *can* do damge faster, but overall killing rate is also dependent on mana regen. And it's not like a holy or disc preist pulls with a wand. MB or MB+ Smite frontloads significant damage as well.

I urge you to try it out before making rash comments.

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: Concillian
Unless you consider level 55 'low level' I don't think I am comparing very low level characters. You're simply way off base with your 4x comment.

You *can* do damge faster, but overall killing rate is also dependent on mana regen. And it's not like a holy or disc preist pulls with a wand. MB or MB+ Smite frontloads significant damage as well.

I urge you to try it out before making rash comments.

I provide below two logs. The first is using mindblast, sw and wand to kill a mob in caster form. This takes 40 seconds, but the character in question still has +10% to shadow damage, 2 extra ticks of SW and a decent chunk of extra damage from shadow weaving and +140 shadow damage. ( I was going to do a respecced comparison from test but the char copy was down ) The second log is using mindblast, sw, then mindflay to kill an identical mob - time taken 13 seconds.

I know you might *think* that wanding is comparable to mindflay, but consider than even the level 44 mindflay does 155 damage a second, and a good wand at level 50 does 40.

For mobs that can heal, the lack of silence throws the comparison even further out of line.

I have also, for amusement's sake, included as the third log, killing a +2 level elite, using no potions or external buffs. For that kind of situation the difference is not between 13 seconds and 40 seconds, but more the difference between easily done and not a chance in hell.

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9/3 14:04:19.750 Your Mind Blast hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 220. (220 resisted)
9/3 14:04:20.625 Saltwater Snapjaw is afflicted by Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:22.765 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 54.
9/3 14:04:23.281 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 123 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:23.906 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 39.
9/3 14:04:25.437 Your Shoot was resisted by Saltwater Snapjaw.
9/3 14:04:26.265 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 123 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:26.828 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 56.
9/3 14:04:28.171 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 52.
9/3 14:04:29.421 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 123 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:29.765 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 55.
9/3 14:04:31.265 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 47.
9/3 14:04:32.375 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 123 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:35.171 Your Mind Blast hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 472.
9/3 14:04:35.328 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 126 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:36.953 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 51.
9/3 14:04:38.390 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 127 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:38.390 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 41.
9/3 14:04:40.078 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 63.
9/3 14:04:41.406 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 126 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:41.734 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 50.
9/3 14:04:43.109 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 39.
9/3 14:04:44.406 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 126 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:04:44.406 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 48.
9/3 14:04:44.796 Shadow Word: Pain fades from Saltwater Snapjaw.
9/3 14:04:46.515 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 46.
9/3 14:04:48.265 Your Shoot was resisted by Saltwater Snapjaw.
9/3 14:04:49.625 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 59.
9/3 14:04:50.375 Shadow Vulnerability fades from Saltwater Snapjaw.
9/3 14:04:51.140 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 68.
9/3 14:04:52.484 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 49. (16 resisted)
9/3 14:04:54.296 Your Shoot hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 65.
9/3 14:04:58.953 Your Mind Blast hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 443.
9/3 14:04:58.953 Saltwater Snapjaw dies, you gain 628 experience. (+314 exp Rested bonus)
9/3 14:04:59.171 You gain Spirit Tap.

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9/3 14:01:51.812 Your Mind Blast hits Saltwater Snapjaw for 514.
9/3 14:01:52.218 Saltwater Snapjaw is afflicted by Shadow Vulnerability.
9/3 14:01:52.437 Saltwater Snapjaw is afflicted by Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:01:53.687 Saltwater Snapjaw is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 14:01:54.609 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 146 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:01:55.156 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 145 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:01:55.765 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 145 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:01:56.593 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 146 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:01:56.953 Saltwater Snapjaw attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 14:01:58.000 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 149 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:01:58.187 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 149 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:01:58.718 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 149 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:01:59.093 Saltwater Snapjaw attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 14:01:59.843 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 149 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:00.187 Mind Flay fades from Saltwater Snapjaw.
9/3 14:02:00.453 Saltwater Snapjaw is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:00.921 Saltwater Snapjaw attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 14:02:01.093 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:02:01.093 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:02.218 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:02.906 Saltwater Snapjaw attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 14:02:03.078 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:03.281 Mind Flay fades from Saltwater Snapjaw.
9/3 14:02:04.515 Saltwater Snapjaw is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:04.515 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 154 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 14:02:04.515 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:05.140 Saltwater Snapjaw attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 14:02:05.312 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:06.484 Saltwater Snapjaw suffers 154 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 14:02:06.484 Saltwater Snapjaw dies.

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9/3 13:42:28.140 Your Mind Blast hits Cliff Giant for 511.
9/3 13:42:30.671 Your Shadow Vulnerability was resisted by Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:31.015 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:31.250 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Blackout.
9/3 13:42:31.437 Cliff Giant suffers 141 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:31.625 Cliff Giant suffers 142 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:32.625 Cliff Giant suffers 141 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:33.484 Cliff Giant suffers 142 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:33.812 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:34.156 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:34.156 Blackout fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:34.625 Cliff Giant suffers 145 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:34.812 Cliff Giant suffers 145 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:35.843 Cliff Giant suffers 146 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:36.656 Cliff Giant suffers 145 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:37.015 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:37.453 Your Blackout was resisted by Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:37.750 Cliff Giant suffers 149 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:37.765 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:38.078 Cliff Giant attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 13:42:38.859 Cliff Giant suffers 149 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:39.328 Cliff Giant suffers 149 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:40.593 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:40.593 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:40.796 Cliff Giant attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 13:42:40.984 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:41.515 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:42.093 Weakened Soul fades from you.
9/3 13:42:42.515 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:43.437 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:43.625 Cliff Giant attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 13:42:43.625 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:43.796 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:46.375 Cliff Giant attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 13:42:46.625 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:46.921 You are afflicted by Weakened Soul.
9/3 13:42:47.640 You fail to cast Mind Flay: Not yet recovered.
9/3 13:42:48.937 Cliff Giant attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 13:42:49.578 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:49.734 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:50.328 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:51.484 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:51.656 Cliff Giant misses you.
9/3 13:42:52.359 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:52.531 Cliff Giant suffers 115 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain. (33 resisted)
9/3 13:42:52.531 Shadow Word: Pain fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:52.531 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:53.046 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:53.328 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Blackout.
9/3 13:42:53.718 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:54.578 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:55.531 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:56.031 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:56.328 Blackout fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:42:56.531 Cliff Giant attacks. You absorb all the damage.
9/3 13:42:56.890 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:58.250 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:58.750 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:42:59.765 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:42:59.765 Cliff Giant hits you for 129. (25 absorbed)
9/3 13:42:59.781 Power Word: Shield fades from you.
9/3 13:42:59.781 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:00.359 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:43:02.156 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Psychic Scream.
9/3 13:43:02.468 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:43:04.156 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:04.609 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Blackout.
9/3 13:43:04.953 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:05.312 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:43:05.828 Blackout fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:43:05.828 Cliff Giant suffers 154 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:06.843 Your Shadow Vulnerability was resisted by Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:43:07.984 Cliff Giant suffers 154 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:08.359 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:43:08.906 Psychic Scream fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:43:08.906 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:09.796 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:10.453 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:43:10.625 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:11.171 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:43:11.328 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:11.828 Weakened Soul fades from you.
9/3 13:43:12.375 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:13.218 Cliff Giant suffers 154 Shadow damage from your Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:13.578 Mind Flay fades from Cliff Giant.
9/3 13:43:13.796 Cliff Giant is afflicted by Mind Flay.
9/3 13:43:14.328 Cliff Giant suffers 153 Shadow damage from your Shadow Word: Pain.
9/3 13:43:14.609 Cliff Giant dies.