WoW+vista and WoW+EQ2 network issues

[Glayde]

I've been looking around but I can't even find instances of either of these two things happening to other people, so I'm going to see if anyone here has had this happen.

There are two unrelated issues.

1. Whenever I log into wow from a vista machine, after not logging into it for a while, (sleep mode/screensaver/reboot) I get into game fine. I can do things normally in the game for 1-2mins and then the network connection to that machine completely drops. WoW disconnects. IRC times out. It happens every single time when I first log in and then never after that unless I take another extended break

2. My gf plays eq2, and sometimes when she zones, I get timed out of WoW. I'll start to lag and disconnect from WoW and look over, and she's zoning in EQ2. Again, it only disconnects my Vista machine, and it drops everything, WoW, IRC etc. It hasn't mattered whether she's been running xp or vista. As soon as I drop, I'm able to reconnect immediately.



Is there some network setting that I need to enable/disable?

Thanks in advance!

 

[invidia]

Originally posted by: Glayde
I've been looking around but I can't even find instances of either of these two things happening to other people, so I'm going to see if anyone here has had this happen.

There are two unrelated issues.

1. Whenever I log into wow from a vista machine, after not logging into it for a while, (sleep mode/screensaver/reboot) I get into game fine. I can do things normally in the game for 1-2mins and then the network connection to that machine completely drops. WoW disconnects. IRC times out. It happens every single time when I first log in and then never after that unless I take another extended break

2. My gf plays eq2, and sometimes when she zones, I get timed out of WoW. I'll start to lag and disconnect from WoW and look over, and she's zoning in EQ2. Again, it only disconnects my Vista machine, and it drops everything, WoW, IRC etc. It hasn't mattered whether she's been running xp or vista. As soon as I drop, I'm able to reconnect immediately.



Is there some network setting that I need to enable/disable?

Thanks in advance!

Number 1 is very confusing. You log on to WoW and get disconnected after a while? What are you doing in the background? Are you using a router?

 

[Glayde]

I have a linksys cablemodem router/hub

It doesn't matter at all what I'm doing or not doing besides wow.

I sit down, log into wow and im disconnected after a very short period of time. Anything else related to net traffic gets disrupted and it's fine an instant after that, and doesnt cause issues again until I'm inactive again for a while.

I've never had that problem when the computer with wow had XP.

It only happens on Vista.

Basicly it's like:

Logging onto wow for the first time of the day from a vista computer causes the internet connection for that computer to shut down for an instant and be fine the rest of the day.

Sometimes the disconnect happens immediately, usually it's about 10 seconds after I'm in. I can say hi but I won't hear replies because the connection is cut. Other times I'm able to stay in for up to a minute but it always eventually happens. I disconnect, but can immediately reconnect and I'm fine from that moment on.

 

[darkrisen2003]

There are many factors that could be attributed here. First off have you forwarded the ports for wow and EQ2 on your router and the vista firewall and\or any software firewall you may have? Are you wireless or are you hardwired? What type of connection do you have ( I think you said linksys for both the modem and the router but it is cable correct? ) What router do you have? Is the routed updated on firmware? What are your MTU settings in the router? Several things pop in my mind. Help us out here on these details if you can.

there is also a custom Firmware for routers that does wonders called DD-WRT that if you are comfortable working with computers would do you alot of good to prevent disconnects if they are coming from packet loss generated from the router. Let us know what details you can please.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

I play WoW on Vista 64 and have no problems as a result of using Vista.

Like someone else said, there are too many factors involved to blame it on Vista. Generally though, networking issues tend not to be the OSes fault.

 

[Aikouka]

Do you use anything like Quality of Service (commonly called QoS or packet shaping) on your router?

 

[Glayde]

I tested some more stuff out and it seems that the fact that the computer waking up from sleep is causing #1.
(Just weird it lets me connect then has an instant of dropping the connection and being fine after that).

#2 is still unexplained. It only cuts out the Vista machine, it never cuts out my XP machine (or causes the gf's machine to have any issues). It doesn't _always_ do it but it may several times in the same night, and every time I glance over and she is zoning on her machine in eq2.

I have a motorola cable modem and a linksys wired (not wireless) cablerouter hub. BEFSR41.

I'm not forwarding any ports. I'll check the MTU settings when I'm home tonight.

 

[nanobreath]

Question: Are you starting wow as soon as you sit down and boot up the computer? Reason I ask is what is disconnecting the network connection may be in a startup process or something that isn't fully initializing until you've sat down for a little bit, by which time you're in game. I doubt this is the problem, but want to mention it just in case.

Otherwise this sounds like a firewall problem. Do you have a software firewall installed, or have the windows one enabled? If so disable them and see if it fixes the problem. Finally this leads us to the router's firewall. I'd set up a DMZ and see if the problem persists. If it fixes it, then you know it's a port that isn't being forwarded and you can try and find out which. Otherwise I'd see about trying a different router to see if the router is having general problems.

When you boot up wow is the other computer already running eq2? Might be some kind of conflict between both games needing a certain port and the router not properly fowarding the correct information and dropping a connection. Pretty far fetched, but hey computers are weird sometimes.
EDIT: Bah, posts take me so long to make at work, seems like you've gone through most of this already!

 

[Saga]

Is the DMZ enabled on your router?

What is the model and type (or revision)? It sounds to me like there is some automatic QoS that causes specific network traffic (IE the zoning in EQ) to bump the WoW connection. Outside from that it could be the NIC drivers acting up, or a hardware malfunction. But to be honest it really sounds like some bunk version of QoS that might need a firmware update to resolve.

One thing I would do is put your WoW machine directly onto the DMZ - enable the DMZ and point it to the IP address of the WoW machine, even going as far as to make sure you enter a static IP address on your computer to ensure it always captures the same DHCP.

Should tell Elessy to play a real game like EVE imo.

 

[Glayde]

Hah, who's this?

Firmware 1.46.02, Aug 03 2004

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: Glayde
Hah, who's this?

Firmware 1.46.02, Aug 03 2004

Yeah that shit needs to be updated for sure. Plug it into the manufacturer website and flash that sucker pronto.

 

[Glayde]

That's actually the most recent for my model number (model 1)

 

[Saga]

I'd try throwing that machine on the DMZ first, which should bypass just about anything QoS or NAT related.