wow. the puussifacation of America is true!!

waggy

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FRIDAY, Oct. 27 (HealthDay News) -- The testosterone-fueled American male may be losing his punch.

Over the past two decades, levels of the sex hormone in U.S. men have been falling steadily, a new study finds.

For example, average total testosterone levels in men aged 65 to 69 fell from 503 nanograms/decileter (ng/dL) in 1988 to 423 ng/dL in 2003.

The reasons for this trend are unclear, said researchers at the New England Research Institutes in Waterdown, Mass. They noted that neither aging nor certain other health factors, such as smoking or obesity, can fully explain the decline.

"Male serum testosterone levels appear to vary by generation, even after age is taken into account," study lead author Thomas G. Travison said in a prepared statement.

Testosterone is the primary male sex hormone and plays an important role in maintaining bone and muscle mass. Low testosterone levels have been linked to health problems, including lowered libido and diabetes.

It's normal for men's testosterone levels to peak in their late 20s and then start to gradually decline, experts say. But this study found that overall testosterone levels are lower than they were 20 years ago.

"In 1988, men who were 50 years and older had higher serum testosterone concentrations than did comparable 50-year-old men in 1996. This suggests that some factor other than age may be contributing to the observed declines in testosterone over time," Travison said.

He and his colleagues analyzed blood samples -- along with health and other information -- from about 1,500 men in the greater Boston area who took part in the Massachusetts Male Aging Study. That study collected data in 1987-89, 1995-97, and 2002-04.

"This analysis deals with men who were born between 1915 and 1945, but our baseline data were not obtained until the late 1980s, when the elder subjects were about 70 years old, and the youngest about 45," Travison said.

"Events occurring in earlier decades could certainly help explain our results, if their effects persisted into recent years," he noted






hmm wonder how this will play out in the future?
 

Syringer

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Too many asians out there. We're the fastest growing group in the US, in some statistic.

 

schneiderguy

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its the girl pants the emo guys wear, it constricts their balls and inhibits testosterone production! :Q

 
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I've been warning about this for a few years now and I didn't have a Scientific study to prove it.

Quick Dave, get over here and help me shoo these damned kids off my lawn, what with their emo music and girly pants. :p

- M4H
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Howard
What was the distribution of race?

they didnt list it. but wonder how tha would effect it?

It goes..blacks > whites > hispanics > asians.


figured diffrent races had diffrent levels. but was not sure.


wish they would have listed by race. that would be intersting read.
 

Jeff7

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Good. Humans are too damned stupid and aggressive. Maybe lessening the testosterone will tone the aggression down a bit. Probably just wishful thinking though.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I've been warning about this for a few years now and I didn't have a Scientific study to prove it.

Quick Dave, get over here and help me shoo these damned kids off my lawn, what with their emo music and girly pants. :p

Sorry can't help ya, Canada was a lost cause long before the U.S. started going downhill.

I would applaud and support your efforts however should you try and turn your respective Country's men around. :thumbsup:
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Good. Humans are too damned stupid and aggressive.

Maybe lessening the testosterone will tone the aggression down a bit.

Probably just wishful thinking though.

So looks like you carrying a gun for protection is out of the question.

When you encounter a thug, you'll just say kill me quickly and get it over with. :roll:
 

SagaLore

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Great, another studying showing the affects of all the hormons in our meat and dairy, and increased use of soy products.
 

Soybomb

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Good. Humans are too damned stupid and aggressive.

Maybe lessening the testosterone will tone the aggression down a bit.

Probably just wishful thinking though.

So looks like you carrying a gun for protection is out of the question.

When you encounter a thug, you'll just say kill me quickly and get it over with. :roll:

I don't necessarily take his comments as being sheepish. I think its a very fair criticism to say that theres alot of macho chest thumpers out there who feel like they need to fight others and start trouble to prove their manhood. Perhaps even part of the reason someone might carry a gun.

I'm probably the most mellow laid back guy you'll run into and I carry. Wishing for fewer hotheads in the world doesn't mean one is passive.
 

computeerrgghh

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The survey was of people in the greater Boston area. No way is Boston and Massachusetts representative of the average American. Heck, they like the Red Sox ;)
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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I'm sorry, but I have to totally disagree with these scientists. I would like to see more studies done. I just know to many male friends close to these ages who still have sex drives and agressive / assertive behavior like that of a 20 year old!

I'm curious to see more information and detail on their study and how they came to their conclusions.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
I just know to many male friends close to these ages who still have sex drives and agressive / assertive behavior like that of a 20 year old!

You're a prostitute. How many male friends do you NOT know?
 

mundane

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Shouldn't the topic summary be "Testosterone Tumbling in OLD American Males"? Maybe I'm not reading the article correctly, but the specific example they cite is for men 65+, and late they cite decline in males over 50.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
Shouldn't the topic summary be "Testosterone Tumbling in OLD American Males"? Maybe I'm not reading the article correctly, but the specific example they cite is for men 65+, and late they cite decline in males over 50.


LOL... I agree!