Wow... the NRA refuses to help with the Sniper in the DC Area

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dexvx

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And I thought people being randomly shot from afar would actually change their minds. Stupid Ashcroft

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no0b

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I just knew that somebody would find a way to blame the NRA.
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That and counter-strike.
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Lucky

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Originally posted by: dexvx
And I thought people being randomly shot from afar would actually change their minds. Stupid Ashcroft

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stupid you. the database such as what this whacko publication suggests would be easily defeatable by using a stolen gun, or modifying the internal components of the gun to produce a different "fingerprint". Not to mention, there is no way you are going to be able to "fingerprint" every single one of the hundreds of millions of guns in this country.
 
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Ashcroft has to be one of the best AG we've had in a LONG time. Thank goodness for groups like the NRA or we'd be over-run by liberal actavists.
 
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tcsenter

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the NRA refuses to help with the Sniper in the DC Area
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Simplicity reigns supreme yet again.

It would require a couple years, if the NRA dropped all resistance to ballistic fingerprinting the day the first person was shot, to get a law passed and implemented. A couple more years to develop the database and get it running. How is the NRA "refusing to help with the Sniper in the DC Area"?

Do you think the Sniper would stop killing people, take his rifle down to the police station so that it can be fired and the ballistic fingerprint entered into the database, if a law could be passed and made effective tomorrow?
Only two states -- Maryland and New York -- have managed to surmount NRA lobbying and create computerized ballistics fingerprint databases. But thanks to the NRA, even those systems are useless in this case. By law, the Maryland and New York laws apply only to handguns, not to long rifles such as that being used by the sniper.
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This is a lie. The principle architects and sponsors of the Maryland and New York laws never proposed that it apply to long guns, it was always limited to handguns because gun control proponents themselves try to promote the facade that they are 'not after legitimate hunting and sporting rifles, only those evil handguns'.

Damned those pesky facts!
 
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NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Torghn
Ashcroft has to be one of the best AG we've had in a LONG time. Thank goodness for groups like the NRA or we'd be over-run by liberal actavists.
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And thank god for intelligent citizens who are smart enough to see it. :)

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klah

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I live in Atlanta and the AJC is a very poorly written, left-wing paper. That opinion piece is anonymous, but I am pretty sure that it was written by Cynthia Tucker. When she is not busy writing these moronic opinion pieces, she is usually over at Emory giving speeches about how Communism has just gotten a bad rap.

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Last time I checked, they didn't write the laws.
 
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tcsenter

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I live in Atlanta and the AJC is a very poorly written, left-wing paper. That opinion piece is anonymous, but I am pretty sure that it was written by Cynthia Tucker.
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It appears to be an editorial in that the piece is signed 'our view' at the top, indicating it comes from the editorial board of the AJC.
When she is not busy writing these moronic opinion pieces, she is usually over at Emory giving speeches about how Communism has just gotten a bad rap.
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Yeah, the 'right' people weren't calling the shots, it will work perfectly if only the 'right' people were in charge next time. haha
 
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Ashcroft has to be one of the best AG we've had in a LONG time.
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The best at what, writing away our rights? He hasn't had a Waco, Ruby Ridge, or Elian incident yet, but Ashcroft has done more damage than his support of the 2nd amendment can make up for. Ashcroft will take his time whitling away at his set of liberties, and in 2004 some democrat will start attacking the rest: gun rights, abortion, education, and the militia.
 
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klah

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
It appears to be an editorial in that the piece is signed 'our view' at the top, indicating it comes from the editorial board of the AJC.
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Yes, but it was written solely by Tucker. Whenever she wants to write something without hearing Boortz talk about it the next day, it is published in this manner.
 
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MrChicken

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Would you be willing to have a DNA database of every person?

This would be much more effective at solving crimes than a "ballistic fingerprint" database.

A single hair could identify the killer and a hundred or more hairs drop off your body every day.

Doesnt that scare you? It should.
Think about what rights you are asking others to give up, and where that action leads back to you.
 
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WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Torghn
Ashcroft has to be one of the best AG we've had in a LONG time. Thank goodness for groups like the NRA or we'd be over-run by liberal actavists.
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Yeah and thank God for the KKK or else we would do away with segregation! Oh wait...
 
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yellowperil

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Ashcroft is the voice of the American redneck. This is the only privacy issue he will fight for, everything else he'll fight such as the attorney-client privilege, abortion, doctor-assisted suicide, and the due process clause. We don't need some wack-job imposing his fundamentalist Christian values on us. How ironic that he spent taxpayer money ($2K I believe) to cover up a nude statue of a woman representing justice.
 
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
the NRA refuses to help with the Sniper in the DC Area
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Simplicity reigns supreme yet again. It would require a couple years, if the NRA dropped all resistance to ballistic fingerprinting the day the first person was shot, to get a law passed and implemented. A couple more years to develop the database and get it running. How is the NRA "refusing to help with the Sniper in the DC Area"? Do you think the Sniper would stop killing people, take his rifle down to the police station so that it can be fired and the ballistic fingerprint entered into the database, if a law could be passed and made effective tomorrow?
Only two states -- Maryland and New York -- have managed to surmount NRA lobbying and create computerized ballistics fingerprint databases. But thanks to the NRA, even those systems are useless in this case. By law, the Maryland and New York laws apply only to handguns, not to long rifles such as that being used by the sniper.
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This is a lie. The principle architects and sponsors of the Maryland and New York laws never proposed that it apply to long guns, it was always limited to handguns because gun control proponents themselves try to promote the facade that they are 'not after legitimate hunting and sporting rifles, only those evil handguns'. Damned those pesky facts!
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Hell has now frozen over. This is because I have to agree completely with TC. Ballistic fingerprinting now is tantamount to locking the barn after the horse has escaped. One can debate the pros and cons of it for the future, but it does nothing for the sniper situation.
 
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Cyberian

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
The police / FBI don't need the help of the NRA.
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If they don't help, big effing deal.

nik
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Did you or did you not read the linked article?

 
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