Wow, the Matrox Parhelia 512 is going to kick ass.

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Unfortunately it'll have too hefty of a price tag for me. :) I'd get one in a second.
 

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matrox has always charged a premium at release
 

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Anand visited ATi up in Canada last weekend. Hopefully, he'll have some news on R300 when he comes back.
 

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But, won't the NV30 and NV35 kick ass?
Isn't a GeForce 4 already faster in Quake 3?
If both NV30 and Parhelia are DX 9 compliant, where is the advantage?
 
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I think I'll wait for Christmas on this one too. Looks absolutely incredible :D

When is the release date, just in case I change my mind? :D :D :D
 

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Originally posted by: glen
But, won't the NV30 and NV35 kick ass?
Isn't a GeForce 4 already faster in Quake 3?
If both NV30 and Parhelia are DX 9 compliant, where is the advantage?
Parhelia is not DX9 compliant. R300 and NV30 will be.

 

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Originally posted by: glen
But, won't the NV30 and NV35 kick ass?
Isn't a GeForce 4 already faster in Quake 3?
If both NV30 and Parhelia are DX 9 compliant, where is the advantage?
Isn't a Geforce 4 already faster than what in Q3??

The Parhelia is only partially DX9 compliant. The advantage is Matrox superior 2D, unless Nvidia pulls some 2D quality out of their asses for the NV30.

They should hit retail end of June/Begin of July.

amish
 

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Sounds like a great card, I used to love my DH G400. I'll get a Parhelia as soon as I win the lottery.
 

glen

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I think the new NVida cards, NV30, are coming out at the same time as Parhelia and will have more features, be faster, cheaper, and have more stable drivers.
 

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Originally posted by: glen
But, won't the NV30 and NV35 kick ass?
Sure they will. I think it's safe to assume that NV30 is faster than GF4

Isn't a GeForce 4 already faster in Quake 3?
faster than what? Parhelia? There has been no official benchmarks yet. However, it has been said that prerelease-Parhelia with early beta-drivers is about 20-30% faster than GF4 Ti4600

If both NV30 and Parhelia are DX 9 compliant, where is the advantage?
Parhelia is not 100% DX9 compliant. But that's not really a problem, since games that require DX9 won't be released in a long time. There will propably be new version of Parhelia released early next year that will be fully DX9 compliant (it will also have other improvements as well)
 

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Isn't a Geforce 4 already faster than what in Q3??
Parhelia
I've seen benchmarks.
GeForce 4 is faster in games like Quake 3.
Parhelia is faster in newer games.
 
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That's right... The new nVidia chips will be out on the brand new core.

I think I'll wait for a bit before I jump onto that bandwagon. I remember all of the problems with the Geforce DDR that were fixed in the GF2 GTS. :)
 

glen

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unless Nvidia pulls some 2D quality out of their asses for the NV30.
They are specifically addressing this issue, so I assume it will have as good or better 2D.
 

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Originally posted by: glen
I think the new NVida cards, NV30, are coming out at the same time as Parhelia and will have more features, be faster, cheaper, and have more stable drivers.
On what do you base that assumption? It has already been more or less confirmed that NV30 will not have 256bit memory-bus, so it will lose to Parhelia in memory-bandwidth. It will not be able to touch Parhelia in 2D image-quality, it will most likely not have triplehead. As to drivers... Matroxes drivers are top-notch. And their Linux-support is superior to that of NVIDIA's.

And Parhelia will become available before NV30
 

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All I know is that if NVidia, ATI, and Matrox behave like Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft we should have some pretty cheap new toys to play with in 6 months to a year from now.
 

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You've seen Parhelia vs. Geforce 4 benches??

The NV30 won't even be announced until August. The Parhelia will be available by July.

How can you say anything about driver stability one way or the other about either card??

amish
 

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Originally posted by: glen
Isn't a Geforce 4 already faster than what in Q3??
Parhelia
I've seen benchmarks.
Links?

GeForce 4 is faster in games like Quake 3.
Parhelia is faster in newer games.
Might be. GF4 gets 200FPS in Q3, whereas Parhelia only gets 195FPS. Parhelia runs Unreal Tournament 2003 "surprisingly fast" (according to Mark Rein) using triplehead (that's three monitors), Doom 3 will propably be demonstrated in E3 usning Parhelia with three monitors.
 

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