WOW - Newb question

[gizbug]

I'm playing as a dwarf/rogue, level 3
ny ideas what a good starting weapon I should get for my character? Right now he has a little knife, which does very little damage, and it's difficult to do these quests / fight monsters...

Also I am in a guild, but it seems like all my party is spread out over other continents, which makes me doing quests solo, so i have yet to see a point to a guild.

Anyone recommend a good site besides blizzards site for info on the game, strageties, etc?

 

[Modeps]

Um, hey... you're level three. you're not going to get anything that does much damage.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Don't worry about it right now. You will get some quests later on that give decent daggers. I trained dual-wield and got a better dagger and a mace...but you have a while to go until you can train dual-wield.

 

[datalink7]

You should be able to pretty easily do your initial quest area, and by the time you leave it you should be level 6. You didn't leave to early did you?

 

[Ausm]

Shop at auctions you will find good stuff there but you need to level up .


Ausm

 

[mchammer187]

you can get pretty good quest item daggers till about lvl 10 then you have to rely on drops

i would train maces and swords as well

at lvl 30 i wield dual maces and am luvin it though i had to pay almost 2g for one of them and the

other one was a drop

 

[quikah]

Originally posted by: mchammer187
you can get pretty good quest item daggers till about lvl 10 then you have to rely on drops

i would train maces and swords as well

at lvl 30 i wield dual maces and am luvin it though i had to pay almost 2g for one of them and the

other one was a drop

Why dual wield maces, you lose backstab/ambush (and other skills I might be forgetting)?

I am dual wielding daggers now at lvl 19 and can easily solo stuff 2 levels above me.

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: quikah

Originally posted by: mchammer187
you can get pretty good quest item daggers till about lvl 10 then you have to rely on drops

i would train maces and swords as well

at lvl 30 i wield dual maces and am luvin it though i had to pay almost 2g for one of them and the

other one was a drop

Why dual wield maces, you lose backstab/ambush (and other skills I might be forgetting)?

I am dual wielding daggers now at lvl 19 and can easily solo stuff 2 levels above me.

cheap shot >>>>>> ambush

i do far more damage using maces and SS and gouge over using BS with a dagger

now if i could find a dagger that had greater than 17 DPS

than i would wield that instead and use cheap shot + backstab

but i cannot really see myself using ambush ever again over cheap shot

 

[dbzwukan]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Um, hey... you're level three. you're not going to get anything that does much damage.

Yeah, what he said.

And hopefully , by now you should be in level 10.

And also, if that guild would take you at level 3, you should join a different one later one. meaning, that they would take just anybody, so the chances of getting some greedy, immature members is greater.

granted, when I first formed my guild, i took 3 of my friends, and then the rest, random people, but they were all at 10 or above. We now have a level cap of 15th. To keep the members low at around 60 people.

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

Keep in mind the fact that you may also use one handed swords and maces. There will be a time (about lvl 20-40) where getting a nice new dagger isn't exactly easy. So if you happen upon a good 1h sword or mace you can try using it. You can't backstab, but your Sinister Strikes will do quite a bit of dmg since they care about the dmg on a weapon and not its speed. You can do most all of your skills except Backstab and Ambush.

Good luck.

 

[gizbug]

whats a good online source for info on the game, besides blizzards site

 

[caivoma]

www.thobott.com

 

[gizbug]

Originally posted by: caivoma
www.thobott.com

?

 

[Cheetah8799]

Originally posted by: gizbug

Originally posted by: caivoma
www.thobott.com

?

thottbot.com

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: quikah

Originally posted by: mchammer187
you can get pretty good quest item daggers till about lvl 10 then you have to rely on drops

i would train maces and swords as well

at lvl 30 i wield dual maces and am luvin it though i had to pay almost 2g for one of them and the

other one was a drop

Why dual wield maces, you lose backstab/ambush (and other skills I might be forgetting)?

I am dual wielding daggers now at lvl 19 and can easily solo stuff 2 levels above me.

he looses poison also..
definatly not worth the trade off. for a 3% chance to stun...

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: quikah

Originally posted by: mchammer187
you can get pretty good quest item daggers till about lvl 10 then you have to rely on drops

i would train maces and swords as well

at lvl 30 i wield dual maces and am luvin it though i had to pay almost 2g for one of them and the

other one was a drop

Why dual wield maces, you lose backstab/ambush (and other skills I might be forgetting)?

I am dual wielding daggers now at lvl 19 and can easily solo stuff 2 levels above me.

he looses poison also..
definatly not worth the trade off. for a 3% chance to stun...

you can use poison with any melee weapn

also SS ignores weapon speed so you are hitting basically just as fast with the main hand

and you are only giving up Backstab and Ambush which are dagger only skills

as i said before there hardly any situations where ambush is going to be better than cheap shot

and if I did wield daggers I would still be using cheap shot anyway


i do plan on switching back to daggers after i do some toxic revenger runs tonight

but that is because they are the highest dps weapons i can easily get at my level better than 1h maces and swords currently

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

You can get to level 10 using unarmed and no armor...

 

[quikah]

I guess it will depend on the talent build you are doing also. I can crit for almost 200 dam on my ambushes now, so if I pump all the crit talents it might be the way to go, but I haven't gotten cheapshot yet so I will have to see how it goes.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
You can get to level 10 using unarmed and no armor...

It is funny because it's true

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: quikah
I guess it will depend on the talent build you are doing also. I can crit for almost 200 dam on my ambushes now, so if I pump all the crit talents it might be the way to go, but I haven't gotten cheapshot yet so I will have to see how it goes.

Cheap shot is much more useful than ambush. I open almost every fight now with cheap shot, then backstab, then gouge, then another backstab. At that point I have 5 combo points and the monster has been stunned for 90% of the fight.

Perhaps the best thing about cheap shot is that it's not direction dependant. You don't done have to maneuver in behind your opponent, you just run right up and whack em. They can even be directly facing you, by the time you unstealth, it's too late and they're stunned.

As for dagger vs. mace, I use backstab way too much to give up my main-hand dagger. When I'm in group situations, all I do is backstab.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: quikah
I guess it will depend on the talent build you are doing also. I can crit for almost 200 dam on my ambushes now, so if I pump all the crit talents it might be the way to go, but I haven't gotten cheapshot yet so I will have to see how it goes.

Cheap shot is much more useful than ambush. I open almost every fight now with cheap shot, then backstab, then gouge, then another backstab. At that point I have 5 combo points and the monster has been stunned for 90% of the fight.

Perhaps the best thing about cheap shot is that it's not direction dependant. You don't done have to maneuver in behind your opponent, you just run right up and whack em. They can even be directly facing you, by the time you unstealth, it's too late and they're stunned.

As for dagger vs. mace, I use backstab way too much to give up my main-hand dagger. When I'm in group situations, all I do is backstab.

yup same... Im going Crit/Poison blade rogue im L30 and i do pretty much exactly what you say...
thats the best tactic at that level....

I was told maces cannot be poisoned.. never tried it msyelf since I cannot see a "rogue" using a mace..
sounds more like a gimpy warrior or a ranger maybe... even then blades....
blades leave cutting injuries which would help poison travel.. a blunt object would not be an effective agent for poison deleivery... so i dont see why it would be possible..
never heard of a poisoned blunt wep before...

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: quikah
I guess it will depend on the talent build you are doing also. I can crit for almost 200 dam on my ambushes now, so if I pump all the crit talents it might be the way to go, but I haven't gotten cheapshot yet so I will have to see how it goes.

Cheap shot is much more useful than ambush. I open almost every fight now with cheap shot, then backstab, then gouge, then another backstab. At that point I have 5 combo points and the monster has been stunned for 90% of the fight.

Perhaps the best thing about cheap shot is that it's not direction dependant. You don't done have to maneuver in behind your opponent, you just run right up and whack em. They can even be directly facing you, by the time you unstealth, it's too late and they're stunned.

As for dagger vs. mace, I use backstab way too much to give up my main-hand dagger. When I'm in group situations, all I do is backstab.

yup same... Im going Crit/Poison blade rogue im L30 and i do pretty much exactly what you say...
thats the best tactic at that level....

I was told maces cannot be poisoned.. never tried it msyelf since I cannot see a "rogue" using a mace..
sounds more like a gimpy warrior or a ranger maybe... even then blades....
blades leave cutting injuries which would help poison travel.. a blunt object would not be an effective agent for poison deleivery... so i dont see why it would be possible..
never heard of a poisoned blunt wep before...

poison mace does work

i'm pretty sure it will work with any melee weapon though I haven't tried it with fists since i haven't come across a pair

here is how most of my fights go

stealth
cheap shot (usually have 3 combo points by now since i initiative fully specced)
attack
SS
attack
gouge
wait for energy to recover
attack at last second then ghostly strike if i didnt do it instead of first SS
then
either kidney shot / eviscerate / expose armor / or rupture

cuz that is entirely situation dependent

usually takes now out mobs of equal lvl pretty easily with almost full HP (3/4) after a fight

every now and then a thistle tea into the mix since i have gobs of it and will pull a vanish cheap shot again for another round and then with preparation you can do it again

 

[dbzwukan]

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: quikah
I guess it will depend on the talent build you are doing also. I can crit for almost 200 dam on my ambushes now, so if I pump all the crit talents it might be the way to go, but I haven't gotten cheapshot yet so I will have to see how it goes.

Cheap shot is much more useful than ambush. I open almost every fight now with cheap shot, then backstab, then gouge, then another backstab. At that point I have 5 combo points and the monster has been stunned for 90% of the fight.

Perhaps the best thing about cheap shot is that it's not direction dependant. You don't done have to maneuver in behind your opponent, you just run right up and whack em. They can even be directly facing you, by the time you unstealth, it's too late and they're stunned.

As for dagger vs. mace, I use backstab way too much to give up my main-hand dagger. When I'm in group situations, all I do is backstab.

good idea,

I, however, likes to pick their pockets before I attack them, to get locked boxes to practice my lock picking skills.

so

stealth
pick pocket
cheap sot
backstab
gouge
backstab
rupture