Wow...just wow....Office workers give away passwords for a cheap pen

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I was farking during my lunchbreak and found this....as an IT admin I find it both scary, and brutally true when I think about my users....

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Office workers give away passwords for a cheap pen
By John Leyden
Posted: 17/04/2003 at 17:01 GMT


Workers are prepared to give away their passwords for a cheap pen, according to a somewhat unscientific - but still illuminating - survey published today.

The second annual survey into office scruples, conducted by the people organising this month's InfoSecurity Europe 2003 conference, found that office workers have learnt very little about IT security in the past year.

If anything, people are even more lax about security than they were a year ago, the survey found.

Nine in ten (90 per cent) of office workers at London's Waterloo Station gave away their computer password for a cheap pen, compared with 65 per cent last year.

Men were slightly more likely to reveal their password with 95 per cent of blokes, compared to 85 per cent of women quizzed, prepared to hand over their password on request.

The survey also found the majority of workers (80 per cent) would take confidential information with them when they change jobs and would not keep salary details confidential if they came across them.

If workers came across a file containing everyone's salary details, 75 per cent of workers thought they would be unable to resist looking at it, again up from 61 per cent in 2002. A further 38 per cent said they would also pass the information around the office.

Naughty.

The survey was undertaken by the organisers of Infosecurity Europe 2003 in a quest to find out how security conscious workers are with company information stored on computers.

Workers were asked a series of questions which included: What is your password? Three in four (75 per cent) of people immediately gave their password.

If they initially refused they were asked which category their password fell into and then asked a further question to find out the password.

A further 15 percent were then prepared to give over their passwords, after the most rudimentary of social engineering tricks were applied.

One interviewee said, "I am the CEO, I will not give you my password it could compromise my company's information".

A good start, but then the company boss blew it. He later said that his password was his daughter's name.

What is your daughters name the interviewer cheekily asked.

He replied without thinking: "Tasmin".

D'oh.

Of the 152 office workers surveyed many explained the origin of their passwords.

The most common password was "password" (12 per cent) and the most popular category was their own name (16 per cent) followed by their football team (11 per cent) and date of birth (8 per cent).

Two thirds of workers have given their password to a colleague (the same as last year) and three quarters knew their co-workers passwords.

In addition to using their password to gain access to their company information two thirds of workers use the same password for everything, including their personal banking, Web site access, etc.

This makes them more vulnerable to financial fraud, personal data loss or even identity theft, the InfoSecurity team point out.

Meanwhile two thirds of workers admitted they had emailed colleagues illicit, unsavoury pictures or "dirty jokes", up slightly from 62 per cent in 2002. Men were twice as likely to indulge in this activity with 91 per cent of men sending unsavoury emails compared to only 40 per cent of women.

InfoSecurity's organisers say this behaviour could expose their employer to expensive litigation for sexual discrimination, low morale and even be viewed as allowing bullying.

Tamar Beck, Director of InfoSecurity Europe 2003, said: "Employees are sometimes just naïve, poorly trained or are not made aware of the security risk. Employers therefore need to create a culture of protecting their information and reputation with policies on information security backed up with training to support the security technology". ®

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Originally posted by: wfbberzerker
well, its england.

I thought I'd be nice and not make any European...*cough* France *cough* references ;)
 

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I can get a cheap pen from the supply closet. What's the deal here? :confused:
 

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crazy man.

I'll be going to Waterloo today...........
 

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There needs to be more forced security on users of IT networks..

The company my mom worked at had a good idea.. They made her carry around a keychain with a randomly generating number that she had to append to her password in order to log into her system.
 

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The company my mom worked at had a good idea.. They made her carry around a keychain with a randomly generating number that she had to append to her password in order to log into her system.

Token security card. They are very cool, but NOT cheap to replace if they get lost or stolen.
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
The company my mom worked at had a good idea.. They made her carry around a keychain with a randomly generating number that she had to append to her password in order to log into her system.

Token security card. They are very cool, but NOT cheap to replace if they get lost or stolen.

I got one. and I lost it once. Never again :p
 

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So people just walk up and ask for passwords in a survey?

*cough*surveys are powerful tools*cough*

No social engineering required. That's phenomenal.
 

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i knew almost everyone's password at work. i didnt even have my own log on name.. i had to use someone else's. besides all the passwords people told me, i had access to finding them out on my own.
 

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this is why you enforce rules that don't allow passwords like "password" and force them to have a combination of numbers and letters, upper and lowercase. the users gripe like you wouldn't believe, but who cares, they are dumb
 

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Originally posted by: gopunk
this is why you enforce rules that don't allow passwords like "password" and force them to have a combination of numbers and letters, upper and lowercase. the users gripe like you wouldn't believe, but who cares, they are dumb

Last place I worked at, you had to change your password every 15 days, and it had to be different...it was a pretty smart system. If your last password was "bob123", it wouldn't let you use something like "bob234" or "123bob". It had to be completely different. You know how hard it gets after a while to keep coming up with passwords every 15 days for 6 logins that were unique???
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: gopunk
this is why you enforce rules that don't allow passwords like "password" and force them to have a combination of numbers and letters, upper and lowercase. the users gripe like you wouldn't believe, but who cares, they are dumb

Last place I worked at, you had to change your password every 15 days, and it had to be different...it was a pretty smart system. If your last password was "bob123", it wouldn't let you use something like "bob234" or "123bob". It had to be completely different. You know how hard it gets after a while to keep coming up with passwords every 15 days for 6 logins that were unique???

holy sh!t 15 days? i think that is a little overkill... i mean if something needs that much security, get a freaking securid!
 

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I'm confused. How do they know that people did not lie about their password? If some bloke came up to me at the train station and asked me a bunch of questions for a free pen, I'd tell them my username was vi_edit and my password was "nef". :)

No way I'd give out any real information.
 

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: vi_edit
The company my mom worked at had a good idea.. They made her carry around a keychain with a randomly generating number that she had to append to her password in order to log into her system.

Token security card. They are very cool, but NOT cheap to replace if they get lost or stolen.

I got one. and I lost it once. Never again :p

Never again... as in, they never again gave you one? :p
 

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Originally posted by: tk149
I'm confused. How do they know that people did not lie about their password? If some bloke came up to me at the train station and asked me a bunch of questions for a free pen, I'd tell them my username was vi_edit and my password was "nef". :)

No way I'd give out any real information.

That's what I think. Free pen? My password is WHOO! WHOO!
 

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If they did that in Georgia they would be facing 5 years in prison and $50,000 dollar fine under the old Computer Law. If they do that under the new Law about to be passed it would be 5 Years and $50,000 for each pen they received so they better hope they only get 1 pen.