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wow, I just drove the worst handling car in my life...

granted: I haven't driven a lot of cars....
so my nominee for the worst car handling car [driven by andylawcc] is.....

This.

yes, it is comfortable.... but it better be. The steering feels numb and detached, very detached in fact. Every second the car reminds me of its massive weight through its rather unacceptable body roll. Acceleration is adequate for the 3.2 V6, on the other hand.

verdict: I would hate to drive that car, but I wouldn't mind to sit in one.
 
Interesting. Though I'm sure the demographic interested in owning this car really won't care if it handles like it's on rails or not.
 
the body roll on the "luxury" cars is much more antiprogressive meaning it seems bad but only the first few degrees then it curtails itself - a lot
 
Mercedes are giant turds, slow with horrible handling. I'd recommend a Mitsubishi Evolution. One of the best handling cars for around 30k.
 
I drove Mercedes Benz boat of a car w/ some anemic V12 or something
it felt dangerous to drive..so noncommunicative..when you turn the wheel you get no fedback..no sense the car would turn..
same w/ the gas...u press it andnothing happens...it was scary...
 
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Mercedes are giant turds, slow with horrible handling. I'd recommend a Mitsubishi Evolution. One of the best handling cars for around 30k.
Uh... different market completely.

Have you driven an Evo? I personally don't like it, would much rather have a simple RWD layout, haven't like AWD yet
 
Originally posted by: andylawcc
granted: I haven't driven a lot of cars....
so my nominee for the worst car handling car [driven by andylawcc] is.....

This.

yes, it is comfortable.... but it better be. The steering feels numb and detached, very detached in fact. Every second the car reminds me of its massive weight through its rather unacceptable body roll. Acceleration is adequate for the 3.2 V6, on the other hand.

verdict: I would hate to drive that car, but I wouldn't mind to sit in one.

it was never meant to be driven fast anyway. it's a luxury cruiser.
 
Originally posted by: pio!pio!
I drove Mercedes Benz boat of a car w/ some anemic V12 or something
it felt dangerous to drive..so noncommunicative..when you turn the wheel you get no fedback..no sense the car would turn..
same w/ the gas...u press it andnothing happens...it was scary...
Yeah, in luxury cars like this you don't feel the acceleration, which is somewhat nice for a daily driver.

Remember, it's a MERCEDES, these are daily drivers for the most part!
 
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Mercedes are giant turds, slow with horrible handling. I'd recommend a Mitsubishi Evolution. One of the best handling cars for around 30k.

i dont think ppl in the market for mercedes woudl consider a mitsu evo.

Also, seriously? Did you just suggest an evo in a thread about mercedes?
 
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Mercedes are giant turds, slow with horrible handling. I'd recommend a Mitsubishi Evolution. One of the best handling cars for around 30k.

there are at least 3 Mercedes I can think of off the top of my head that pump more than 600 HP and ~730 lb/ft of torque.

stock.

they will chew up Evo's and spit them out like sunflower seeds.

and they can do it while being practical daily drivers with unparalleled comfort, instead of harsh buzzy little deathtraps.

don't get me wrong, I think the Evo is awesome, but this is like comparing a Burger King Whopper to a homemade BBQ feast. The Whopper may be cheaper and have some meat, but you get the sh!ts afterwards and it won't taste nearly as good or be as good of a way to spend time with friends.
 
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Mercedes are giant turds, slow with horrible handling. I'd recommend a Mitsubishi Evolution. One of the best handling cars for around 30k.

there are at least 3 Mercedes I can think of off the top of my head that pump more than 600 HP and ~730 lb/ft of torque.

stock.

they will chew up Evo's and spit them out like sunflower seeds.

and they can do it while being practical daily drivers with unparalleled comfort, instead of harsh buzzy little deathtraps.

don't get me wrong, I think the Evo is awesome, but this is like comparing a Burger King Whopper to a homemade BBQ feast. The Whopper may be cheaper and have some meat, but you get the sh!ts afterwards and it won't taste nearly as good or be as good of a way to spend time with friends.

excellent point...it seems that the wrx and lancer are a lot of people solution for all types of cars...regardless of what exactly someone is looking for, you can be guranteed that there are gonna be a couple of wrx/lancer suggestions even when they are so out of place.
 
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Mercedes are giant turds, slow with horrible handling. I'd recommend a Mitsubishi Evolution. One of the best handling cars for around 30k.

Only if you have NOS and AutoX stickers on that Evo. Those two stickers alone will eat anything!!!

Sorry but you're an idiot for actually suggesting an Evo in place of a M.
 
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Mercedes are giant turds, slow with horrible handling. I'd recommend a Mitsubishi Evolution. One of the best handling cars for around 30k.

there are at least 3 Mercedes I can think of off the top of my head that pump more than 600 HP and ~730 lb/ft of torque.

stock.

they will chew up Evo's and spit them out like sunflower seeds.

and they can do it while being practical daily drivers with unparalleled comfort, instead of harsh buzzy little deathtraps.

don't get me wrong, I think the Evo is awesome, but this is like comparing a Burger King Whopper to a homemade BBQ feast. The Whopper may be cheaper and have some meat, but you get the sh!ts afterwards and it won't taste nearly as good or be as good of a way to spend time with friends.

The cars you are talking about are $100,000+ and last time I checked this guy isn't Bill Gates. I don't care how "boy racer" it seems to you. How in the hell can you deny its power and suspension capabilities which are OUTSTANDING for what you are paying. I wouldn't call it non-luxury either just because it doesn't have a navigation system that barely works anyway.

Apples to oranges.....I don't care, the Evo is a serious performer.
 
in all sincerity, this is a rather pointless thread... its like saying dragster have horrible ride comfort.


so I just ownzed myself...

🙂

point being, it wasn't a fun car to drive.
 
Apples to oranges.....I don't care, the Evo is a serious performer.
You called all Mercedes giant turds, which is a ridiculous statement to make.

Evo has an incredibly uncomfortable, loud, unrefined ride. Sure it can whip around a track, but a fraction of the people who buy them actually put them on the track. Most are boy racers who love to zip from red light to red light in residential areas. I praise the high insurance premiums morons like that pay for thoes cars.
 
You didn't own yourself. You are ABSOLUTELY right, Mercedes for the most part are giant turds on the road. If you want a sluggish, bulky and horribly handling car just buy a 91 Towncar or Cadillar De Ville.

Yes, we all know the McLaren Mercedes is a beast, but this man is NOT spending $500,000 on a car.
 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
rich people that care about performance will buy bmws 😀😀

<-- bmw fanboy

since you brought that up, I sat in my friend's 1999 323i: the ride was pretty good (actually more-than-good) and handling was great (my friend is a rather crazy driver, but minimal body roll is experienced when she zigzag thru traffic). I think that's an excellent job how BMW balances ride comfort and handling.
Acceleration on that 2.3 I-6 wasn't top notch, but as it got better as it revs.
 
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: z0mb13
rich people that care about performance will buy bmws 😀😀

<-- bmw fanboy

since you brought that up, I sat in my friend's 1999 323i: the ride was pretty good (actually more-than-good) and handling was great (my friend is a rather crazy driver, but minimal body roll is experienced when she zigzag thru traffic). I think that's an excellent job how BMW balances ride comfort and handling.
Acceleration on that 2.3 I-6 wasn't top notch, but as it got better as it revs.

the regular bmws are not really about acceleration.. its all about handling 😀😀

but the M ones are a totally different animal..

drool for the new m5 v10..

 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Apples to oranges.....I don't care, the Evo is a serious performer.
You called all Mercedes giant turds, which is a ridiculous statement to make.

Evo has an incredibly uncomfortable, loud, unrefined ride. Sure it can whip around a track, but a fraction of the people who buy them actually put them on the track. Most are boy racers who love to zip from red light to red light in residential areas. I praise the high insurance premiums morons like that pay for thoes cars.

Fantastic, way to stereotype all Evo owners. Well I can play that game and do the same to Mercedes, but I won't. Mercedes are big, bulky,and accelerate slow for the most part. I don't care how stuck up you are and feel the need to drive an overpriced TURD. Your not impressing anyone here. I can actually appreciate the quality and refinement of an EVO. But I guess your flawed logic suggests because some rich kids drive it and race around town, its now all of a sudden not a great car? Well Mercedes suck because rich assholes whose nose is stuck so far in the air he can't see the road drive like old grandmas. Fair enough?

Last time I checked you can change springs on a car. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Originally posted by: SampSon
Apples to oranges.....I don't care, the Evo is a serious performer.
You called all Mercedes giant turds, which is a ridiculous statement to make.

Evo has an incredibly uncomfortable, loud, unrefined ride. Sure it can whip around a track, but a fraction of the people who buy them actually put them on the track. Most are boy racers who love to zip from red light to red light in residential areas. I praise the high insurance premiums morons like that pay for thoes cars.

Fantastic, way to stereotype all Evo owners. Well I can play that game and do the same to Mercedes, but I won't. Mercedes are big, bulky,and accelerate slow for the most part. I don't care how stuck up you are and feel the need to drive an overpriced TURD. Your not impressing anyone here. I can actually appreciate the quality and refinement of an EVO. But I guess your flawed logic suggests because some rich kids drive it and race around town, its now all of a sudden not a great car? Well Mercedes suck because rich assholes whose nose is stuck so far in the air he can't see the road drive like old grandmas. Fair enough?

Last time I checked you can change springs on a car. :thumbsup:

It still looks like it drove straight through a car parts store.

At least a Mercedes has some class.
 
NO E Class buyer is going to look at an Evo and definately the same for the Evo buyer!

Koing
 
Originally posted by: Sluggo

You need to get out more. Sometime try driving something like this
Ah, great machine, owned a few of them. When you consider it's used on the very same roads as 5 ton dump trucks, delivery vans, and tractor-trailers, "handling" just doesn't seem to be much of an issue!
 
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Mercedes are giant turds, slow with horrible handling. I'd recommend a Mitsubishi Evolution. One of the best handling cars for around 30k.

there are at least 3 Mercedes I can think of off the top of my head that pump more than 600 HP and ~730 lb/ft of torque.

stock.

they will chew up Evo's and spit them out like sunflower seeds.

and they can do it while being practical daily drivers with unparalleled comfort, instead of harsh buzzy little deathtraps.

don't get me wrong, I think the Evo is awesome, but this is like comparing a Burger King Whopper to a homemade BBQ feast. The Whopper may be cheaper and have some meat, but you get the sh!ts afterwards and it won't taste nearly as good or be as good of a way to spend time with friends.

The cars you are talking about are $100,000+ and last time I checked this guy isn't Bill Gates. I don't care how "boy racer" it seems to you. How in the hell can you deny its power and suspension capabilities which are OUTSTANDING for what you are paying. I wouldn't call it non-luxury either just because it doesn't have a navigation system that barely works anyway.

Apples to oranges.....I don't care, the Evo is a serious performer.

Except your ass is gonna hate you for the rest of your life (even more than after your adventure with Rocco) if you drive an EVO for any longer than 2-3 hours.
 
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