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n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
You really think single mothers working at walmart at 7.44$ for a living can afford a 20% flat tax? Hell they can't even afford a 5% flat tax.

How about she doesn't have kids and gets an education?

Wow...what an asshat-type of response!

hows that? does the mere thought of someone [the single mother] accepting responsibility for their actions offend or insult you? hell, if the woman was enough of an idiot to have a child out of wedlock, then she DESERVES what comes to her.

Not necessarily out of wedlock, but before she was ready for the responsibilities of a child. ;)
 

Kerouactivist

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oh this is where the hitler youth have been hanging out....I had wondered where hey had gone........
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: bthorny
oh this is where the hitler youth have been hanging out....I had wondered where hey had gone........

Interesting point. I can see you have spent a lot of time thinking about the situation and the various issues at hand.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
You really think single mothers working at walmart at 7.44$ for a living can afford a 20% flat tax? Hell they can't even afford a 5% flat tax.

How about she doesn't have kids and gets an education?

Wow...what an asshat-type of response!

hows that? does the mere thought of someone [the single mother] accepting responsibility for their actions offend or insult you? hell, if the woman was enough of an idiot to have a child out of wedlock, then she DESERVES what comes to her.

Not necessarily out of wedlock, but before she was ready for the responsibilities of a child. ;)

how many people that have children while they were married werent ready for one?

 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: bthorny
oh this is where the hitler youth have been hanging out....I had wondered where hey had gone........

that statement is going to need a lot of explination.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Genesys
how many people that have children while they were married werent ready for one?

Do you want statistics? I can take a poll. :p

I don't know really. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that get married and have children but aren't really ready.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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ncmonkey you've proven yourself to be a cold and heartless bastard with absolutely no compassion whatsoever. I feel really sad for you if this is how you actually feel, I get the feeling your just posting such crap for shts and giggles. Anyways, I consider my father to be a part of the rich and elite and he has absolutely no problem in paying higher taxes provided they will benefit our country in some way. Life is about giving, not taking.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
ncmonkey you've proven yourself to be a cold and heartless

I can accept this.


This is verifiably false.

with absolutely no compassion whatsoever.

Blah.

I feel really sad for you if this is how you actually feel, I get the feeling your just posting such crap for shts and giggles.

Not at all. I wouldn't post this for any reason other than to get people to think. Do I believe it 100%? Don't know. Do I think people should start thinking of the consequences of their actions ahead of time? Yes. Definitely. Do I think people should take personal responsibility for what they have done? Yes, absolutely. Do I look down on single mothers working at Wal*Mart to feed their children. Not at all. I wonder why they did the stupid things they did though. I wonder if they think what they did was worth it while they are too poor to take proper care of the children they have. That obviously excludes the single mothers who are in the situation they are in through little fault of their own.

If I could feed the world I would, but I don't think it's my duty or the responsibility of the government to make me do it.

Anyways, I consider my father to be a part of the rich and elite and he has absolutely no problem in paying higher taxes provided they will benefit our country in some way.

Good for him. He probably makes more than I do. He can probably afford to buy a house. Not possible on my salary in this part of the country.

I don't think it's the federal government's place to put their sticky hand in my pocket and take what they can. Why not convert fully to a socialistic or communistic economic system? Why stop with just government subsidized socialist health care (which I did mention I have no problem with helping STATES provide this for CHILDREN)?

Life is about giving, not taking.

Maybe. I think life is about taking care of what is important to you. To me, I'm the most important thing because I don't have a family of my own. I've sacrificed to get what I have. Why should the rewards of my hard work go to someone that just gave in and did what they wanted without regard to the future?
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So taxcuts are more important than healthcare?

I've got healthcare, so yes, tax cuts are more important to me.

I am not in the top bracket, so healthcare is more important to me than taxcuts for the rich.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So taxcuts are more important than healthcare?

I've got healthcare, so yes, tax cuts are more important to me.

I am not in the top bracket, so healthcare is more important to me than taxcuts for the rich.

I'm not in the top bracket either, but I'd sure like to have a tax cut. And so far, socialism hasn't worked. ;)

EDIT: And if education was another option, I'd go with that over tax cuts and socialism.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So taxcuts are more important than healthcare?

I've got healthcare, so yes, tax cuts are more important to me.

I am not in the top bracket, so healthcare is more important to me than taxcuts for the rich.

I'm not in the top bracket either, but I'd sure like to have a tax cut. And so far, socialism hasn't worked. ;)

EDIT: And if education was another option, I'd go with that over tax cuts and socialism.

I don't care what you call it. I am gonna vote for what's best for me and people I care about. Healthcare is more important IMO. My grandparents are on fixed income, and it's more important to me that they get healthcare coverage that keeps them alive than me getting a taxcut. YMMV.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So taxcuts are more important than healthcare?

I've got healthcare, so yes, tax cuts are more important to me.

I am not in the top bracket, so healthcare is more important to me than taxcuts for the rich.

I'm not in the top bracket either, but I'd sure like to have a tax cut. And so far, socialism hasn't worked. ;)

EDIT: And if education was another option, I'd go with that over tax cuts and socialism.

I don't care what you call it. I am gonna vote for what's best for me and people I care about. Healthcare is more important IMO. My grandparents are on fixed income, and it's more important to me that they get healthcare coverage that keeps them alive than me getting a taxcut. YMMV.

And that's what you should do, vote for what makes more sense to you.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Thank god our country isn't full of little ncmonkeys running around all over the place. What a disaster that would be, a bunch of self-involved egotistical scrooges.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Thank god our country isn't full of little ncmonkeys running around all over the place. What a disaster that would be, a bunch of self-involved egotistical scrooges.

And who is in charge now? A bunch of egotisitical, beaurocratic, lying, cheating, idiots. If things changed, maybe the government would have the money to support everyone, and all of the work would be done by illegal mexicans. Unfortunately, that doesn't work and nothing will get better if we keep electing the same evils into office.

The heart makes a horrible brain.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Single mothers are single mothers because their fathers, NOT them, refuse to take responsibility for their children.


that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. single mothers are single mothers because they couldn't keep their legs shut until marriage or use effective contraception.

divorced mothers whose husband left them and ran off with the assets are in a slightly different situation, but getting knocked up at 18 to a loser, marrying him, and foregoing your education on the assumption that your husband will always take care of you is only slightly less retarded.

AND because the fathers had to unzip their pants, blaming ONLY the woman is stupid.

It IS as much the mans responsibility to tend for his children as it is the womans, most morons don't get that and you seem to be a shining example.

What you are saying is that women shouldn't trust men, considering how you think, i think that is sound advice.

HOWEVER, that does not change the fact that a single woman with an outstanding education is STILL less attractive to an employer.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Lucky
Single mothers are single mothers because their fathers, NOT them, refuse to take responsibility for their children.


that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. single mothers are single mothers because they couldn't keep their legs shut until marriage or use effective contraception.

divorced mothers whose husband left them and ran off with the assets are in a slightly different situation, but getting knocked up at 18 to a loser, marrying him, and foregoing your education on the assumption that your husband will always take care of you is only slightly less retarded.

What?! You can't advocate responsibility here! Some crackwhore on welfare with 14 children and one on the way might read it and be offended that she isn't getting more!

:p

Yeah, all single moms are crackwhores, hoooray for stupid generalizations.
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Genesys

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Lucky
Single mothers are single mothers because their fathers, NOT them, refuse to take responsibility for their children.


that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. single mothers are single mothers because they couldn't keep their legs shut until marriage or use effective contraception.

divorced mothers whose husband left them and ran off with the assets are in a slightly different situation, but getting knocked up at 18 to a loser, marrying him, and foregoing your education on the assumption that your husband will always take care of you is only slightly less retarded.

AND because the fathers had to unzip their pants, blaming ONLY the woman is stupid.

It IS as much the mans responsibility to tend for his children as it is the womans, most morons don't get that and you seem to be a shining example.

What you are saying is that women shouldn't trust men, considering how you think, i think that is sound advice.

HOWEVER, that does not change the fact that a single woman with an outstanding education is STILL less attractive to an employer.


no, we dont overlook the fact that it is as much the guys responsibility, we do get the fact that it takes two to tango. but the woman SHOULD keep in mind that she stands the distinct possibility to get pregnant because of her actions. and she also has to learn when to say NO. we're not saying women shouldnt trust men, we're saying take responsibility for your actions and make damned sure that when your going to commit an act that creates life, youre ready to accept ALL consequences.

and youll need to explain your last statement to me. im not sure why a single woman with an outstanding education is less attractive to an employer? the only reasoning i can see is if the woman is OVER qualified for the job, and can therefore demand a huge salary/wages for what she will be doing [compared to those who share a similar position]