Wow-had to post this!! (AGEIA PPU)

[the Chase]

I know there is already posts about the Ageia PPU but I want people to see this video as it blew my mind!!-- http://physx.ageia.com/footage.html

 

[Micro Bean]

Wow nice

 

[the Chase]

Anyone know what Quick Time addition you need to play the High definition download of this video?

 

[the Chase]

Anyone know what Quick Time addition you need to play the High definition download of this video?

DOH!!

 

[AzNPinkTuv]

hmm vangaurd supports this... time to look into buying one

 

[LOUISSSSS]

looks great. i can imagine this will be the new standard within the next few months? i dont know.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: the Chase
Anyone know what Quick Time addition you need to play the High definition download of this video?

I'm curious too....

 

[BlacKJesuS]

that looks good.....real good

 

[Howard]

I used VLC to play it, though newer codec packs with MPC should be able to handle it. I use CCCP codec pack with MPC and it'll do it, but VLC was the default player so I chose that.

 

[Googer]

Here is a demonstation of four P4's vs one PhysX
http://pcweb.mycom.co.jp/articles/2005/09/13/cedec/images/027.wmv


More Video of the PhysX in action.
http://www.ageia.com/press/Airtight/DivxPhysxAirtight720x400.avi
http://www.ageia.com/press/physx_avalanche/physx_boulders.exe
http://www.ageia.com/press/physx_castle/physx_castle.exe

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: Howard
I used VLC to play it, though newer codec packs with MPC should be able to handle it. I use CCCP codec pack with MPC and it'll do it, but VLC was the default player so I chose that.

Thanks!! That worked! Never heard of it before- just googled VLC and downloaded from one of the mirrors and installed.

And thanks Googer, the boulders falling down the mountain thing was neat and helped show the "power" of the PPU versus a multiple core CPU. Cool stuff.

 

[MechaSheeba]

I agree that this is a big step for gaming, but does everyone realize that this is going to cost about $300? I'm only willing to spend about 1/2 to 2/3rds that on a GPU, and even less on my CPU. If this is going to be used in multiplayer games, everyone is going to have to own one, and it needs to be mainstream priced, not 5-10% of the market priced. It won't sell.

 

[the Chase]

That is probably their biggest hurdle.I'm as "frugal" as they come and have spent more on my computer than I ever thought I would after getting into gaming. I used to wait for a rebate deal on an E-machine!! I'm still not sure whether there are enough games out there supporting this or even if I want to spend $300 if there are yet. But I came across the Cellfactor video on another forum and WOW! If alot of new games (esp. fps for me) come out looking like that....I'm going to have a hard time resisting that. (probably wait till the price comes down and there is a $50+ mail in rebate knowing me).

 

[JBT]

These look sweet. I hope these can be priced accordingly though.

 

[w00t]

I dont understand how the pci slot would have enough bandwith am i wrong?

 

[w00t]

double post ermmm

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: MechaSheeba
I agree that this is a big step for gaming, but does everyone realize that this is going to cost about $300? I'm only willing to spend about 1/2 to 2/3rds that on a GPU, and even less on my CPU. If this is going to be used in multiplayer games, everyone is going to have to own one, and it needs to be mainstream priced, not 5-10% of the market priced. It won't sell.

I doubt game companies care about people that wouldn't even pay $150 for a CPU.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: ribbon13

Originally posted by: MechaSheeba
I agree that this is a big step for gaming, but does everyone realize that this is going to cost about $300? I'm only willing to spend about 1/2 to 2/3rds that on a GPU, and even less on my CPU. If this is going to be used in multiplayer games, everyone is going to have to own one, and it needs to be mainstream priced, not 5-10% of the market priced. It won't sell.

I doubt game companies care about people that wouldn't even pay $150 for a CPU.

Exactly. I guess people won't buy an FX60 for $1000 either. They won't sell. :roll:

 

[d3lt4]

i just hope Ageia doesn't end up like creative with no competition. We need third part companies to make a different PPU to keep prices low and new products rolling along.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Googer
Here is a demonstation of four P4's vs one PhysX
http://pcweb.mycom.co.jp/articles/2005/09/13/cedec/images/027.wmv

To be fair, that's just 1 CPU (dualcore with HT). 4 physical cores would be significantly more powerful, and the fact that the 3 "cores" weren't maxed out to 100% shows the flaw there (2 of them being HT, if they did rendering on an HT logic core, and not one of the physical cores, then that's definitely not fair and could have caused the graphical lag).

Granted it still does a great job at showing off why dualcore (or even multicore) is NOT the answer for physics processing like many have claimed ("oh PPU will be irrelevent because of dualcore")

I also agree that someone could create a separate addon for stuff like AI processing, however that might be something dual/multicore could actually be good at pulling off, as I don't seeing any real need for such a thing with games becoming more and more interactive thanks to the internet, there isn't much need for artificial opponents as there used to be (I remember back in the day playing StarCraft, there'd almost always end up being "dud" CPU opponents with the AI usually focusing on just one computer controlled opponent, always making outnumbered games of 3vs5 less challenging than you'd think)

 

[MechaSheeba]

Originally posted by: ribbon13

I doubt game companies care about people that wouldn't even pay $150 for a CPU.

lol yeah, cause an Opteron 144 which is probably one of the most widely used CPUss in this crowd hasn't been under $150 forever or anything. And all the people with A64 3000-3200+'s aren't gamers at all. The most popular online game in the world right now, and probably of all time, WoW, is designed to run on what kind of hardware?

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Exactly. I guess people won't buy an FX60 for $1000 either. They won't sell. :roll:

Ageia is NOT the powerhorse AMD, Intel, ATi, or Nvidia is. These companies can afford to put out high end high dollar products that only a VERY small percentage of the market will buy. ATi and Nvidia don't make the bulk of their money from their top of the line video cards in the $400-500 range. It comes from budget mainstream cards. No sh!t a few will sell, but it's not going to be enough. $300? This is an add-in that should be competing with sound cards at this point in its release.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: MechaSheeba

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Exactly. I guess people won't buy an FX60 for $1000 either. They won't sell. :roll:

Ageia is NOT the powerhorse AMD, Intel, ATi, or Nvidia is. These companies can afford to put out high end high dollar products that only a VERY small percentage of the market will buy. ATi and Nvidia don't make the bulk of their money from their top of the line video cards in the $400-500 range. It comes from budget mainstream cards. No sh!t a few will sell, but it's not going to be enough. $300? This is an add-in that should be competing with sound cards at this point in its release.

I'm sure a BIG reason they are selling it at that price is because they ARE a small company and don't have the money to price it low and sell/produce 1000s of units. It's basic economics.

 

[the Chase]

Also new tech is always more expensive when it first comes out and then gets less expensive as manufacturing ramps up. (Read LCD's or Dual Core's or Memory,etc).