Wow... 1/8th inch chip in my CPU die...

Jmmsbnd007

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I got so freaked out today... I was rebuilding my comp (cleaning out the dust and stuff), and just as I was examining the CPU... I notice a HUGE CHIP on the bottom edge of the die! This thing was DEEP... so I prayed to the atheist god, put it back together (conveinently forgetting to put on the piece of sh!t $7 shim which didn't prevent it in the first place), put on a nice layer of AS3 (didn't even bother to properly clean the HS/CPU Core using alcohol... just wiped it off with a napkin), started it up... and look at this, I'm IDLING at 35, I used to idle at 38 the day I built this computer. What luck.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
do you know what the temperature differences between those days were?
Right now my core is at 36C (I'm doing some chatting and surfing, not really idling), room temp is 24C. The other times it was around 24C, too. 1C differential, maximum.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Originally posted by: tweakmm
do you know what the temperature differences between those days were?
Right now my core is at 36C (I'm doing some chatting and surfing, not really idling), room temp is 24C. The other times it was around 24C, too. 1C differential, maximum.
Sorry, ambient temperature differences.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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By the way, anyone know where I can find one of those magnified internal photographs of the actual die? I'd like to see where I created the "air vent" :D
 

psianime

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I turned accientally turned on my computer without a heat sink on... wasn't pretty.

-psianime
 

Eli

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I have a K6-2/300 that I've taken the heatplate off, that has a chipped core.. and it still works fine.

Sometimes you just get lucky.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: psianime
I turned accientally turned on my computer without a heat sink on... wasn't pretty.

-psianime


Did you cool it by throwing water on it too? :eek:

KK
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: Eli
I have a K6-2/300 that I've taken the heatplate off, that has a chipped core.. and it still works fine.

Sometimes you just get lucky.
Specs on the chip?
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: DeathByAnts
The edges of the die on a couple of my cpu's are rather rounded and run without problems
Hehe... I've seen those pics... but I nearly pissed my pants when I saw this removal of precious metals.
 

alpineranger

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Silicon isn't a metal. In a flip chip packaged processor, the metal layers are on the other side of the die.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Originally posted by: Eli
I have a K6-2/300 that I've taken the heatplate off, that has a chipped core.. and it still works fine.

Sometimes you just get lucky.
Specs on the chip?
I said it was a K6-2/300. What more do you want to know?

.25 micron aluminum..
 

ElFenix

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my case temp is 40
my cpu is 49
how do you people get such low temps?

(this CPU survived 84 degrees when i forgot to plug in the heat sink fan :eek: )
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
my case temp is 40
my cpu is 49
how do you people get such low temps?

(this CPU survived 84 degrees when i forgot to plug in the heat sink fan :eek: )
84C is just barely out of spec, it wouldn't have killed it. :p

My CPU temp right now is 104F(40C) and my case temp is 82.6F(27C).

This is a K6-3/400.
 

0roo0roo

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my cpu is 53c or 25c depending which sensor i trust:(, case temp is either 23c stupid sisoft sandra reports 3 temps for ecs k7s5a m/b. one is a dummy sensor. 90% load from dscaler + download appz
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
my case temp is 40
my cpu is 49
how do you people get such low temps?

(this CPU survived 84 degrees when i forgot to plug in the heat sink fan :eek: )
Next time, buy Intel and you can forever skip these AMD heat/noise/chipped horror stories.
 

IcemanJer

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Duron 1GHz.. core at 42°C, system at 30°C. Not sure what my room ambient temp is, but usually it's warmer than rest of the house. I try to keep my door and window open for a cross-breeze.
 

SagaLore

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The chip you people are seeing isn't actually on the core. The core is on the flipside of what you're seeing, so as long as the crack doesn't go all the way through to the nanometer thin die, you're still good.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: alpineranger
Silicon isn't a metal. In a flip chip packaged processor, the metal layers are on the other side of the die.
Actually, on a flip chip package, the metal layers are at the top, since it's a flip-chip. :D So... any idea what I could've poked into?
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Originally posted by: Eli
I have a K6-2/300 that I've taken the heatplate off, that has a chipped core.. and it still works fine.

Sometimes you just get lucky.
Specs on the chip?
I said it was a K6-2/300. What more do you want to know?

.25 micron aluminum..
No, I meant the *chip* ;)
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my case temp is 40
my cpu is 49
how do you people get such low temps?

(this CPU survived 84 degrees when i forgot to plug in the heat sink fan :eek: )
Next time, buy Intel and you can forever skip these AMD heat/noise/chipped horror stories.
Yeah, whatever. It's possible to chip any core without a heatspreader. Heat/Noise horror stories? 80MM heatsink = quiet and good cooling.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
The chip you people are seeing isn't actually on the core. The core is on the flipside of what you're seeing, so as long as the crack doesn't go all the way through to the nanometer thin die, you're still good.
Yes, we are aware of that. What exactly is the metal part on the bottom of the die then... it was pretty shiny and purty :p