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Yikes.all the way down to Vermont, with no gun laws at all, and the lowest level of armed violence (one thirteenth that of Britain).
Originally posted by: NeoV
I have yet to read a good answer to this basic question - why does the US have the highest rate of crime (in which a gun is used) of any modern country?
It also just has a damn lot of guns. If you remove them all, you will NOT have shooting massacres. They'll be impossible. You will replace them with knifings, though. I don't know to what degree. I find the overall level of violent crime in England very telling. Again, though, we don't know if it's because of guns or lack thereof or because of ther conditions such as the crappy weather and the oppressive, sh*ty government and cost of living and unemployment.Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: NeoV
I have yet to read a good answer to this basic question - why does the US have the highest rate of crime (in which a gun is used) of any modern country?
Drug prohibition for the most part. The US also has a much more diverse social makeup than any European country you might compare us to.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
It also just has a damn lot of guns. If you remove them all, you will NOT have shooting massacres. They'll be impossible. You will replace them with knifings, though. I don't know to what degree. I find the overall level of violent crime in England very telling. Again, though, we don't know if it's because of guns or lack thereof or because of ther conditions such as the crappy weather and the oppressive, sh*ty government and cost of living and unemployment.Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: NeoV
I have yet to read a good answer to this basic question - why does the US have the highest rate of crime (in which a gun is used) of any modern country?
Drug prohibition for the most part. The US also has a much more diverse social makeup than any European country you might compare us to.
Originally posted by: techs
Interestingly in the US gun crime, like all crime, has been down dramatically in the last 15 years.
Coinciding with more stringent gun control laws.
Originally posted by: NeoV
Guess how many people in the UK were killed by guns in 2006? 210. Care to compare that with the US? Care to compare the rate of crimes committed with a gun in the UK to the US?
Originally posted by: sandorski
One may "feel safer" with a gun, but they're actually less safe. "Feelings" are not Reality.
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: sandorski
One may "feel safer" with a gun, but they're actually less safe. "Feelings" are not Reality.
Actually the EXACT opposite is clearly true. Though your last statement is absolutely true, and essential. It's the reason we have the fallacy of gun control at all.
Originally posted by: techs
Interestingly in the US gun crime, like all crime, has been down dramatically in the last 15 years.
Coinciding with more stringent gun control laws.
Originally posted by: techs
Interestingly in the US gun crime, like all crime, has been down dramatically in the last 15 years.
Coinciding with more stringent gun control laws.
Originally posted by: NeoV
please stop with the BS of 'my guns have saved my life repeatedly' - where exactly do you live again?
As for skewing the numbers - that is why I said RATE of crime instead of the number of crimes, when comparing the US and the UK. The murder RATE in the US is the highest of any fully modern country
Originally posted by: NeoV
please stop with the BS of 'my guns have saved my life repeatedly' - where exactly do you live again?
Originally posted by: NeoV
please stop with the BS of 'my guns have saved my life repeatedly' - where exactly do you live again?
As for skewing the numbers - that is why I said RATE of crime instead of the number of crimes, when comparing the US and the UK. The murder RATE in the US is the highest of any fully modern country
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: sandorski
One may "feel safer" with a gun, but they're actually less safe. "Feelings" are not Reality.
Actually the EXACT opposite is clearly true. Though your last statement is absolutely true, and essential. It's the reason we have the fallacy of gun control at all.
For sure. My guns have saved my life repeatedly, and never done me or my loved ones any harm.
Conversely, gun control is all about "feeling" safer. You'll never take the guns away from the people you want disarmed.
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
And yet they were voted in the office....twice.
Where are all them bush supporters?
Probably cheering "4 more years."
I'd vote for him again. Or support any other method he used to remain in power.
Originally posted by: sandorski
One may "feel safer" with a gun, but they're actually less safe. "Feelings" are not Reality.