"Fuck your feelings"
It was a magnificent lynch mob, wasn't it? But Libs are the haters. Really.
"Fuck your feelings"
I think the only possible value the tax returns might have would be to show if Trump lied on his tax returns. I wouldn't expect them to contain a smoking gun of any sort with respect to his collusion with Russia. Then again, this is "stupid Watergate" so maybe they do.
Line 117b:
$130,000 - Payment to silence porn star
$47,000 - Business expenses associated with hosting Russian intelligence operatives at Trump Tower for campaign strategy planning
well, you are an idiot, after all.Looks more like hate to me.
OK, didn't know that, I guess Trump possibly thought if the indictments came out after he returned (and the news that they were delayed was known) then he would have looked bad. Ironically, he cowered like a toy poodle to Putin so he wound up looking worse.More info-
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/17/politics/rosenstein-trump-brief-indictments/index.html
The White House apparently agreed with the disclosure timing.
I'll admit I didn't like or vote for Trump, somehow once he won I was holding onto a tissue-thin hope he would realize the importance and responsibilities of POTUS. Not so shockingly, it didn't happen, we have someone who disrespects all form of law, profits handily from the position and has stoked the fire of racial dissent to unheard of levels. I could go on but I don't want to waste an hour.Looks more like hate to me.
Its sad-funny you dont understand that quote... also rather telling cause if you consumed news outside of fox you'd know.LOL. See, There it is.
Its not hate its pity.If you only wasn't so filled with hate...
And more validation.
People are angry. I am certainly not happy with 45 and have every reason to believe that his administration is founded on corruption and providing aid and comfort to an enemy of the US who has committed an attack on us. No I'm quite angry about that. If you think that makes me a hater then so be it. Yes this is a left leaning forum but ideology should not make a difference when we are attacked by a KGB despot and our leader is supportive of that action.
Yes, the Constitution and how it defines is the relevant source.The problem is someone leaking this to Nunes or the like. Then the Reps have to wait for the proper moment to strike (and they'll make it some big invasion of privacy) and feed FOX what it wishes.
Speaking of Fox, this opinion piece popped up and for once I looked. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018...-reactions-to-trump-since-election-night.html
Unfortunately for our opponents that definition is irrelevant as it is the Constitution and how it defines treason which applies, not a Game of Thrones scenario.
The state-run news agency is desperate
Aiding Russia is treason against the United States.
Stephen Colbert’s recent segment “Michael Flynn’s White House Tenure: It’s Funny ’Cause It’s Treason” was but one of many accusations of treason hurled against Flynn and other White House associates because of their proven or alleged ties to Russia. “Consider the evidence that Trump is a traitor,” exhorted an essay in Salon. It is, in fact, treasonable to aid the “enemies” of the United States.
But enemies are defined very precisely under American treason law. An enemy is a nation or an organization with which the United States is in a declared or open war . Nations with whom we are formally at peace, such as Russia, are not enemies. (Indeed, a treason prosecution naming Russia as an enemy would be tantamount to a declaration of war.) Russia is a strategic adversary whose interests are frequently at odds with those of the United States, but for purposes of treason law it is no different than Canada or France or even the American Red Cross. The details of the alleged connections between Russia and Trump officials are therefore irrelevant to treason law....
Yes, the Constitution and how it defines is the relevant source.
You may find this interesting or informing:
The claim of "treason" is as silly and inapplicable as that of "collusion" (which simply doesn't exist in this political context).
IMO, impeachment is the only plausible tool.
Fern
I failed to include the link with my post, Apologies.The President has supported an attack on the US in an attempt to sway the election in his favor. He claims otherwise but he defends and deflects from that and has not taken significant actions. Contrary to S. Sanders this is not a witch hunt, there is demonstrated criminality on the part of Trump's campaign, and further these "tough sanctions" are at the insistance of Congress with resistance. Trump is harder on Iran and NK who have not attacked us, labels the EU as foes while aiding the interests of our enemies. That latter conforms to the defininition of Treason. The exchange of weapons fire is not a Constitutional requirement.
I failed to include the link with my post, Apologies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...cee7ce475fc_story.html?utm_term=.de4d8eb10416
You disagree with a professor of law at the University of California at Davis who is writing a book about treason and the American Revolution about the specific definition of an "enemy" in the Constitution?
Fern
Wouldn't Trump's tax returns help Mueller get to the bottom of things?
?
I for one will be glad when Mueller winds up this either way so we can all get on with our lives either with President Trump or President Pence.
Maybe the left can heal from all the hate they have inside.
Looks more like hate to me.
I think he’s using the colloquial definition of treason, not the legal one.
I think most people are using tax returns as a shorthand/colloquial for financial disclosures.I think it unlikely. As I have attempted to explain before that kind of info is not disclosed on a tax return. That's not how the tax return is "designed". E.g., revenue is reported in the $ amount only. The payer is not generally listed on the tax return. Likewise for expenses; the payee is not generally disclosed on a tax return. That type of detail will only be disclosed in the course of an audit. In the audit the IRS can drill down by examaning bank statements etc.
So there are better sources: banking records (which I believe Mueller has already obtained/requested) and various other governmental forms such as those required by the Commerce Dept for foreign investment in the USA etc.
While the topic of tax returns excites those who hate Trump there are better, more effective ways to get the data Mueller may seek.
Fern
So do you always assume that the people who disagree with you because they have a conflicting interest do so out of hate? Or just when it's a convenient excuse for you to engage in namecalling?If you only wasn't so filled with hate...
