Would you want to have been born a girl?

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moonbogg

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OP is generally correct. People like to complicate it and pretend like the OP is somehow wrong, but he is perfectly correct. Women are more valuable than men. This is why women are stolen during war time and tribal conflicts. Your tribe dies without offspring and young men are needed to fight and hunt. So men are valuable as well of course, but without the woman, you are screwed.
A single man can only do so much, but a single woman has the power of 10 men, because she can create ten men. If she creates another women, then everyone just starts humping and pretty soon you have a powerful tribe.
 

rh71

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Women are rejected all the time. It's called not being asked out. Even pretty women may attract the wrong guys making them miserable. Or no guys because they are assumed to be taken already and end up with scraps just the same. 1st world problems yes.

You have one thing going for you as a guy though. Women are more perceptive and generally less shallow. They will see mates for who they are and decide if they want to grow old together with them. Simply put, if you don't have the looks, work hard on your social skills. Start by not feeling sorry for yourself or making excuses. That's a huge turn off already.

Love and relationships forum. Go.
Guys have a penis. You don't really want to be born a girl at this point.
 
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ThinClient

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Women are rejected all the time. It's called not being asked out. Even pretty women may attract the wrong guys making them miserable. Or no guys because they are assumed to be taken already and end up with scraps just the same. 1st world problems yes.

You have one thing going for you as a guy though. Women are more perceptive and generally less shallow. They will see mates for who they are and decide if they want to grow old together with them. Simply put, if you don't have the looks, work hard on your social skills. Start by not feeling sorry for yourself or making excuses. That's a huge turn off already.

Love and relationships forum. Go.
Guys have a penis. You don't really want to be born a girl at this point.

less shallow

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
 

Scarpozzi

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OP needs to spend more time trying to make money and the girls will follow.

Become a success and you won't have to try so hard. If you want a REAL relationship, you need to work on yourself more and money may not be as much of a requirement, but that may vary with your culture. I don't know much about Turkish culture.
 

momeNt

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I would like to be born a guy, and somewhere down the road have elective surgery. Being born a girl takes away the choice of going from a boy to a girl.
 

lozina

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Well, it would be nice to only have to put in a fraction of the effort I am now in life in general and still get all the same benefits/compensation that would be cool. But having a vagina and getting rammed by dudes... fuck no!!
 

momeNt

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You guys are also forgetting that as a guy, less than half the population can beat the shit out of you, and if you train, a very small percentage of the population can harm you. As a girl, you can get beat up by just about every guy, and every single dike too. I'm not too sure I would like to be living in constant fear like that.
 

JulesMaximus

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Try be an ugly fat chick, you will change your mind.

The original post could very well have been written by an ugly fat chick. Just swap the words girl for boy in the original post and bingo! :biggrin:

Sorry blackroat. I think we all go through this to some extent during our lives. I've found it very difficult to date at times, especially after a breakup. I've also found that you find love when you are least looking for it. Just be open to that possibility. Get some friends, hang with them, find things that interest you to do socially and you'll meet people.

Oh crap, I think I just created a love and relationships post. :colbert:
 

jlee

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The original post could very well have been written by an ugly fat chick. Just swap the words girl for boy in the original post and bingo! :biggrin:

Sorry blackroat. I think we all go through this to some extent during our lives. I've found it very difficult to date at times, especially after a breakup. I've also found that you find love when you are least looking for it. Just be open to that possibility. Get some friends, hang with them, find things that interest you to do socially and you'll meet people.

Oh crap, I think I just created a love and relationships post. :colbert:

Everything he said, especially the bolded part.

OP: I was perpetually single 'til I was 28, so stop whining. ;)
 

rh71

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less shallow

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

You must not be a guy then because guys know they will see face, T, and A, then decide they'd try their damnedest to simply deal with the rest all because of the aforementioned. Women aren't more likely to think long term?
 

Sonikku

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I would want to have been born a girl. I face up with the fact that girls are much valuable than boys. To begin with, I am 24 years old and at no point have I dated someone in my life. The fact is, a boy has to have something to get a girlfriend. There must be a reason for a girl to accept him as a boyfriend. He has to have a way with women. Things like a girl would want. To sum up, you have to have some kinda ability to have a girlfriend. While a girl can have a boyfriend just because she is a girl, a boy cant find a girlfriend just because he is a boy. Being a girl means being valuable. A lot of boys want a girl and the girl rejects most of them which shows that girls are valuable. For that reason some girls are very conceited. If I had been born a girl, I could have dated too many people as long as I wanted to. But I was born a boy and even if I wanted to have a girlfriend so bad, I was never able to have a girlfriend. I havent had this ability. Some boys do but to come to my point, boys have to have something for it. Girls are the ones who choose and reject. If I was a girl, I would be doin rejecting thing. Also there is a cafe where english is spoken, a girl asked boys that who can help her learn english and boys went crazy to help her because she is a girl, she is valuable. See my point. Boys are so horny that they even go crazy just to help the girl learn english. Just for it. Boys are hungry for girls. Girls are not hungry for boys because they can get a boy whenever they want. This is so easy for them but for us things are difficult. This might be because boys always think of sex while girls dont. Boys want girls just because they are girls Not to be horny, we oftenly have to masturbate but girls are not like that.

Would you want to have been born a girl?

More so than words can accurately express. Though I must say, your reasons seem awful. (and only partially coherent) While I suppose a harmless fantasy in your case, I think that if you had actually been given your wish you would find that the grass is not as green on the other side as much as you had imagined. I wish I had been born a girl because that is the gender I identify with and my life has been a challenging mismatch of a struggle ever since. But having such a wish because you crave attention and want easier dates? Honey, you are disillusioned.

That might go for the highly attractive girls in their prime, but for many it is far from being able to "hook up with anyone they want when they want wherever they want". Life can be hell for the less pretty ones. Then when you look into the amount of increased social pressure to look good, the staggering amount of mess and cosmetic product/morning prep time investment and outfit combinations and the occasional bad and intimidating behavior you encounter in passing from some of the rotten apples in town and pretty soon your rosy picture is going to be no walk in the park.

In short, keep dreaming. :p (and maybe find a prostitute)
 

SMOGZINN

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Jun 17, 2005
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OP is generally correct. People like to complicate it and pretend like the OP is somehow wrong, but he is perfectly correct. Women are more valuable than men. This is why women are stolen during war time and tribal conflicts. Your tribe dies without offspring and young men are needed to fight and hunt. So men are valuable as well of course, but without the woman, you are screwed.
A single man can only do so much, but a single woman has the power of 10 men, because she can create ten men. If she creates another women, then everyone just starts humping and pretty soon you have a powerful tribe.

Cattle are stolen during war also. Are cattle more valuable than men as well? Tools and weapons are also stolen. Are tools and weapons more valuable than men as well?

Men are killed and Women are stolen because women are less powerful, in the past men were stolen as well if they couldn't defend themselves. History is full of societies that ran off the backs of enslaved enemies. Ultimately the only thing of real value is power, and until very recently in history only men have had it.
 

IEC

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Men get more valuable as they age.

Women do not.

Mostly for biological reasons.
 

moonbogg

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More so than words can accurately express. Though I must say, your reasons seem awful. (and only partially coherent) While I suppose a harmless fantasy in your case, I think that if you had actually been given your wish you would find that the grass is not as green on the other side as much as you had imagined. I wish I had been born a girl because that is the gender I identify with and my life has been a challenging mismatch of a struggle ever since. But having such a wish because you crave attention and want easier dates? Honey, you are disillusioned.

That might go for the highly attractive girls in their prime, but for many it is far from being able to "hook up with anyone they want when they want wherever they want". Life can be hell for the less pretty ones. Then when you look into the amount of increased social pressure to look good, the staggering amount of mess and cosmetic product/morning prep time investment and outfit combinations and the occasional bad and intimidating behavior you encounter in passing from some of the rotten apples in town and pretty soon your rosy picture is going to be no walk in the park.

In short, keep dreaming. :p (and maybe find a prostitute)

OP, she called you "honey". That's kind of hot, right?

Cattle are stolen during war also. Are cattle more valuable than men as well? Tools and weapons are also stolen. Are tools and weapons more valuable than men as well?

Men are killed and Women are stolen because women are less powerful, in the past men were stolen as well if they couldn't defend themselves. History is full of societies that ran off the backs of enslaved enemies. Ultimately the only thing of real value is power, and until very recently in history only men have had it.

I think I am more righter than you are righter. Women were valued more during the early stages because the cold was bitter and people died quickly. Men were needed to hunt and gather and the men died in the snow and while fighting the beast of the hunt. They needed to replenish the lost people, so if a fight between tribes took place, the most valuable thing to take was the women to grow the tribe, or else the tribe fades away quickly.
Women died easily compared to men. They were rare and highly valued and we owe our existence to their suffering in those dark days, so show your respect for the truth of the womens.
 

Blackroat

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More so than words can accurately express. Though I must say, your reasons seem awful. (and only partially coherent) While I suppose a harmless fantasy in your case, I think that if you had actually been given your wish you would find that the grass is not as green on the other side as much as you had imagined. I wish I had been born a girl because that is the gender I identify with and my life has been a challenging mismatch of a struggle ever since. But having such a wish because you crave attention and want easier dates? Honey, you are disillusioned.

That might go for the highly attractive girls in their prime, but for many it is far from being able to "hook up with anyone they want when they want wherever they want". Life can be hell for the less pretty ones. Then when you look into the amount of increased social pressure to look good, the staggering amount of mess and cosmetic product/morning prep time investment and outfit combinations and the occasional bad and intimidating behavior you encounter in passing from some of the rotten apples in town and pretty soon your rosy picture is going to be no walk in the park.

In short, keep dreaming. :p (and maybe find a prostitute)

While I read what you've written, I am able to notice that my english is not good. I get it from the way you write. There are things I dont understand which means that my english is not good.
 
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CurseTheSky

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The truth is, this mentality has more to do with our society than actual gender differences. Females can give birth. Males are generally larger and physically stronger. However, neither of those facts (or generalizations, depending on how you look at it) make one gender superior to the other.

We're still suck in the 1950s mentality that guys should court girls, ask them out, and generally make the first / second / third moves. Guys should buy the engagement ring. Guys should drive. Guys should pay for the dinner, movie, etc. These habits are slowly changing, but the majority of male-female interactions still seem to be this way. In the traditional 1950s setting, however, females were generally expected to find a man and rely on them, putting guys up on the pedestal. Now that some of the trends have stuck around (namely, guys being expected to be outgoing and make the first move), but others have changed (women being able to make a name for themselves solo, relatively easily), the tables have turned and women seem to be up on the pedestal. I imagine this will even out over the next few decades.

The truth of the matter is, neither sex has it easy. Everyone has doubts, and there are lonely people on both sides. Rather than thinking how easy it would be to get a date if you were a female, do something constructive to make it easier for yourself. Talk to people, and make yourself interesting. Look into a hobby that can start up a conversation or that will introduce you to new people. Biking, woodworking, camping, cooking, swimming, dancing, going to the gym, collecting something, etc. People that could be interested in you are out there, but you won't find them if you don't try.
 

Mai72

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With a little bit of makeup you too can be a woman!

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Belegost

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OP, as a few others have mentioned, please seek therapy. You have half a dozen posts around here which basically go on in a rather obsessed way on the same topic of not being able to "get chicks."

The issue is not needing to "have something." It's that you seem to have issues with general social interaction. The things you write here set off all the creep alarms, so if you're approaching people in life like this, it's no wonder you're having problems.
 

KeithTalent

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Yes, I would make a beautiful woman. I mean I'm a goofy looking dude, so I can only assume I would look better as a woman.

KT
 
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Blackroat

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OP, as a few others have mentioned, please seek therapy. You have half a dozen posts around here which basically go on in a rather obsessed way on the same topic of not being able to "get chicks."

The issue is not needing to "have something." It's that you seem to have issues with general social interaction. The things you write here set off all the creep alarms, so if you're approaching people in life like this, it's no wonder you're having problems.

The point is that if you are a girl, at no point are you having such problems. If I was a girl, I would be conceited and give hell the ones trying to make a conversation with me. On my first day at university I had tried to talk to one of the conceited girls in my class and she had given me hell because I had tried to make a conversation with her. She was very conceited.
 
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Tweak155

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No. Both sexes have unique challenges they have to face day to day, and I think as a male those challenges are way less, in both quantity and complexity, in comparison.
 

jlee

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The point is that if you are a girl, at no point are you having such problems. If I was a girl, I would be conceited and give hell the ones trying to make a conversation with me. On my first day at university I had tried to talk to one of the conceited girls in my class and she had given me hell because I had tried to make a conversation with her. She was very conceited.

Ah, so if you were a girl you would become what you despise?

Get therapy, dude. Seriously.