Would you vote?

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Train
dissipate, havent you hijakced enough threads with your ideologies? cant you start your own threads discussing it instead of making topic changing inserts everywhere else?

I didn't hijack the thread. I made a statement relevant to the topic of the thread in which I was challenged, hence, I argued my case. Read the thread before you make accusations.

In every single thread that you refer to someone has challenged my viewpoints. I think I should be allowed to defend them. Furthermore, if you don't like my viewpoints then don't read my posts. Go back to being a hired gun for the state.

 

[AlricTheMad]

Regardless of the security situation in Iraq, I would vote.
Those that feel strongly about democracy and their rights will. Those that are not convinced they can make a change won't.

Same goes for here in the US. As long as people think 'my vote doesn't matter' we will continue to have the goverment representatives we have.

Pat

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: nick1985
this is a great place to get a good reliable poll...:roll:

of the people in P&N, yes, it is. Did you think I was aiming for something else?

He didn't think, that's just it.

Oh and UNEQUIVOCALLY: NO. It's a pointless exercise in futility and extremely dangerous.

 

[imported_brad]

it would depend on if i welcomed the new form of govt and how much of a hotspot my local poll was.

over there, they dont have a govt figure to manipulate their thoughts through catchy phrasing. I'd say the explosions hold more water than some puppeteer's words.

if i didnt think it was safe, i wouldnt want my family to.

 

[Train]

your original post was the one I was referring to. You elaborated, err I mean hijacked, the topic away from would you vote or not, to Democracy is "evil" , then went on to say governments should be banished, blah blah.

Originally posted by: Dissipate
No, I would not vote. I would not vote in Iraq or anywhere. Democracy is an evil that should not be exported to other countries. Like all forms of governments, it is a plague that should be banished altogether.

You still have never produced (in any of the threads youve hijacked) any proof of a government-less society succeeding. (If you find any, please start a thread on it) But go ahead and keep reading your narrowly selected books and go ahead and keep quoting from them. I do feel bad for you in your futile crusade.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Train
your original post was the one I was referring to. You elaborated, err I mean hijacked, the topic away from would you vote or not, to Democracy is "evil" , then went on to say governments should be banished, blah blah.

Originally posted by: Dissipate
No, I would not vote. I would not vote in Iraq or anywhere. Democracy is an evil that should not be exported to other countries. Like all forms of governments, it is a plague that should be banished altogether.

You still have never produced (in any of the threads youve hijacked) any proof of a government-less society succeeding. (If you find any, please start a thread on it) But go ahead and keep reading your narrowly selected books and go ahead and keep quoting from them. I do feel bad for you in your futile crusade.

No, I said I would not vote in Iraq and then I gave the reason why, whereupon I was challenged.

Governments only exist because people believe that they ought to exist, no other reason. Just like religions exist because people believe in those. If you really get right down to it, governments are really just religions. In the case of democracy people perform a ritual called voting in order to "rightfully" determine who has the "legitimate authority" to rule them. This ritual is really no different than rain dances, chanting or witchcraft. It used to be that people believed that kings had the divine right to rule, now that has simply been replaced with an equally mythical concept: social contract theory.

For approximately 18 years of my life I didn't read what you refer to as "narrowly selected books." I read all of the same brainwashing propaganda that is passed off as education in the government schools that you have come to accept. In fact, I grew up in a highly political family since there happens to be a very high ranking government official in it. To say the least I was highly pre-disposed to believing in the pervasive political myths of our time.

I'm not on a crusade, and it is interesting that you would classify my actions as such. I happen to believe that the government will either collapse under its own weight via the welfare/warefare state which is funded by never ending deficits, or that technology will literally cause it to become obsolete (if you want to see a theoretical roadmap towards the obsolescence of fiat currency, see the link in my signature entitled: "victory is near."). Hence, I would perceive crusading for something that is already going to happen a complete waste of time. I admit, however, that like a lot of people I do enjoy expressing my opinions and challenging the opinions of others.

In any event, it is evident that you find my views particular offensive. Perhaps it would be better for you to reveal your true reasons for such offense than continue this banter.

BTW, I already gave an example of a working society (Somalia) that lacks an official government. Not only does this society have a developing capitalist economy, but it has a working non-monopolistic dispute resolution system.