Would you take your pet to this veterinarian?

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DrPizza

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What I find concerning is people who see no issue. She shows zero remorse and no empathy whatsoever.

She tortured and killed a domestic cat for the sheer pleasure of watching it suffer and die. People with that kind of sadistic NPD type psychopathy Is something to avoid.

She could have trapped the cat and sent it to Animal Control if she had an issue with the cat or contacted the owners.

What she did has nothing to do with controlling a feral cat population.
Nonsense. That cat wasn't tortured, it did not suffer. That was a clean kill shot. You're attempting to twist emotions into making a judgment about this. If she tortured the cat or caused it to suffer, I'd be right on board with condemning what she did.
 

VashHT

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Not to nitpick, but it probably didn't even feel anything getting an arrow through the head. Not really "torture". Unless you think all hunters torture animals, I guess.

If it was trapped like people are suggesting then who knows how long it was before she put it out of its misery. I love people trying to hide behind pragmatism to defend her though, no one I know who is forced kill nuisance animals pose and brag about it on facebook. If the cat was really a big nuisance she should have live captured it to see if it was someone's pet, if it ended up being a feral cat they could have euthanized it.
 

JSt0rm

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Nonsense. That cat wasn't tortured, it did not suffer. That was a clean kill shot. You're attempting to twist emotions into making a judgment about this. If she tortured the cat or caused it to suffer, I'd be right on board with condemning what she did.


The fact is the cat wasn't feral. She made an assumption and it was wrong. oops. Looks like she has a future in vermin control or hunting guide or wahtever her true calling is.
 

MrPickins

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If it was trapped like people are suggesting then who knows how long it was before she put it out of its misery. I love people trying to hide behind pragmatism to defend her though, no one I know who is forced kill nuisance animals pose and brag about it on facebook. If the cat was really a big nuisance she should have live captured it to see if it was someone's pet, if it ended up being a feral cat they could have euthanized it.

Or neuter and release...
 

Jaskalas

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My two cats are my babies, I can't imagine how it would feel seeing one of them hanging off the back end of an arrow, it looks like this chick was just looking for anything to shoot and kill, stupid.

My cats are family. I would react equal to if a human was hanging off that arrow. Read: not very well.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I would not take my pet to this vet. Not because she kills feral cats but, because she isn't able to recognize a feral cat. Feral cats are not well fed. Feral cats do not have glossy coats. Feral cats do not hold still for clean head shots. She is a poor vet with poor observational skills and, poor judgement.
 

JSt0rm

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I would not take my pet to this vet. Not because she kills feral cats but, because she isn't able to recognize a feral cat. Feral cats are not well fed. Feral cats do not have glossy coats. Feral cats do not hold still for clean head shots. She is a poor vet with poor observational skills and, poor judgement.

I'd go one further and never take my pets to the clinic who hired this idiot. That shows poor judgement.
 

VtPC83

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2 Discussions going on here when it really should be one.

People are discussing whether it is humane to remove pests vs whether this vet did something humane or not. This thread is discussing the latter.

What she did wasn't just inhumane but also wrong. She killed a domestic cat. It was someone's animal, you don't just go off shooting someone's animal unless it is threatening you or your family (including pets).

I am willing to bet 95% of the population would be able to tell if a cat were feral vs if it were domestic and I'm expecting 100% of trained vets to be able to tell the difference.

She should be fired (which she was) and because she bragged about it and showed contempt for her profession she should have her license suspended.
 

VashHT

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Or neuter and release...

Yeah I agree with you there personally, I would definitely rather see it get neutered and try to find someone to adopt it rather than euthanizing it, but that was a response to the people saying she killed it because it was a nuisance.
 

Nebor

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Veterinarians kill cats all the time. If anything, a quick arrow to the head is more humane and less torturous than the usual euthanasia procedure in a vet's office. I can't believe how worked up people are getting over this. If you let your pet roam free, then expect it to be treated like a stray\feral animal.
 

Ichinisan

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Not to nitpick, but it probably didn't even feel anything getting an arrow through the head. Not really "torture". Unless you think all hunters torture animals, I guess.

Someone said she shot it while it was caught in a "claw trap."
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Veterinarians kill cats all the time. If anything, a quick arrow to the head is more humane and less torturous than the usual euthanasia procedure in a vet's office. I can't believe how worked up people are getting over this. If you let your pet roam free, then expect it to be treated like a stray\feral animal.

Strays are not feral. Non feral animals are not pests. Inconvenience does not warrant killing animals that are someone elses property. If you want to hold owners liable, I'm all for that.
 

VtPC83

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Most people would agree that a stray/feral animal looks DRASTICALLY different to a family pet. A vet should REALLY be able to tell the difference. You don't shoot pets unless they are a threat to your family. It's just not what decent people do, MUCH LESS a vet.

That is what everyone is upset about, a Vet shot and killed an animal that was clearly a pet, not some feral cat.
 

Ichinisan

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Yeah I agree with you there personally, I would definitely rather see it get neutered and try to find someone to adopt it rather than euthanizing it, but that was a response to the people saying she killed it because it was a nuisance.

From what I can tell, it appears to have been neutered already.
 

BlitzPuppet

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From what I can tell, it appears to have been neutered already.

Could be a catch and release if it truly was feral.

Other than a youtube video, does anyone have any proof that the cat in the video was the same cat that was killed by the vet? Has anyone ever dealt with 100% feral cats before? They are not ones to be messed with.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Something tells me many in this thread have never seen feral cats that live in a close proximity to a farm and have plenty of prey/food. Their coats can look every much as shiny/clean as a domesticated cat.
 

Ichinisan

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Could be a catch and release if it truly was feral.

Other than a youtube video, does anyone have any proof that the cat in the video was the same cat that was killed by the vet? Has anyone ever dealt with 100% feral cats before? They are not ones to be messed with.

I was 100% convinced my Manx (or manx mix) cat was feral. He was always around my apartment complex, hiding under cars for warmth in the winter. He never begged from people and running away if anyone got near him. He was covered with scars and wounds from fighting with other cats. He was often limping with broken limbs or swollen / infected paws. His face always looked disgusting. I was convinced on multiple occasions that he was dead or had no chance to survive. He even seemed to be deaf sometimes. This went on for years.

A new neighbor moved in. She's a "cat lady" and spends a great deal of money to rescue cats. She managed to capture him. Spent thousands of dollars to fix him up. The vet confirmed that both hind legs had multiple major fractures that had healed over the years. I always thought the tail had been cut in half, but the vet told her it was actually a Manx cat. She got him neutered and nursed him to health. It's like a completely different cat. He's super-attached to people that he's familiar with. Very smart (for a cat). Very vocal and affectionate. The only reason she gave him to me is because he has feline AIDS and will not get along with her other cats.

Back then, an arrow to the head would have put him out of his misery. Today, he's a very happy and loving cat.

Truly feral cats typically don't ever become tame, especially grown adults. I think he used to be someone's pet that switched into "survival mode" feral instincts after being abandoned.

Tiger was clearly not a feral cat. As a vet, she should have trapped him and checked him for a microchip. Perhaps she should have started a sterilization program if she had a problem with feral cats (though Tiger was probably already neutered).
 

sm625

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Well, an arrow through the head is a pretty humane way to dispatch a feral cat. It's better than letting it get hit by a car and lay writhing in agony on the side of the frickin road for 7 hours before finally expiring due to heat exhaustion.
 

SketchMaster

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Veterinarians kill cats all the time. If anything, a quick arrow to the head is more humane and less torturous than the usual euthanasia procedure in a vet's office.

I can only speak for the Vets I worked under as a Vet Tech, but they did not enjoy having to euthanize an animal. 90% of the time it was an owner that pushed for putting them down, and mostly it was because they didn't want to pay for treatment. I had to help put down a whole litter of puppies that caught Parvo (easy to treat if you catch it early) just because the owner decided the cost of putting them down was cheaper than treating them.

So, yeah... That Vet is twisted.
 

JSt0rm

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Well, an arrow through the head is a pretty humane way to dispatch a feral cat. It's better than letting it get hit by a car and lay writhing in agony on the side of the frickin road for 7 hours before finally expiring due to heat exhaustion.

It wasnt a feral cat.
 

JSt0rm

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I can only speak for the Vets I worked under as a Vet Tech, but they did not enjoy having to euthanize an animal. 90% of the time it was an owner that pushed for putting them down, and mostly it was because they didn't want to pay for treatment. I had to help put down a whole litter of puppies that caught Parvo (easy to treat if you catch it early) just because the owner decided the cost of putting them down was cheaper than treating them.

So, yeah... That Vet is twisted.


I have a 18 year old cat in good health but if he has any health problems I will probably just have him put down if its over $500 and not something simple (ingrown nail infection or something). How much time are you buying for a 18 year old cat anyhow?
 

dainthomas

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It wasnt a feral cat.

Does that make it less humane? People relinquish their animals to shelters all the time, with full knowledge that they may be put down. Seems like the only issue here is that the animal's owner still wanted it. Oh, and that she appeared happy.

This is nearly as ridiculous as that giraffe story.
 

Hugo Drax

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Nonsense. That cat wasn't tortured, it did not suffer. That was a clean kill shot. You're attempting to twist emotions into making a judgment about this. If she tortured the cat or caused it to suffer, I'd be right on board with condemning what she did.

It was not a clean kill. She trapped him in a leghold trap. You can see the rear leg where the trap injury occured. It is a painful trapping method.

While Tiger the pet cat was struggling she got over and behind and shot him with the arrow. Look at the entry angle and its right behind the lower portion of the head.

Sorry but it was not some distant head humane headshot kill.

She obviously took pleasure on that kill and gloated about it. No compassion or remorse.

Sorry, she is a psychopath. You can try to put lipstick on that pig, but she is still a pig.
 

JSt0rm

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Seems like the only issue here is that the animal's owner still wanted it. Oh, and that she appeared happy.

Considering how we treat animals (as in torturing them is a misdemeanor at best) this is the main issue. You cant just kill peoples pets. She destroyed someone's property.
 

Hugo Drax

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Considering how we treat animals (as in torturing them is a misdemeanor at best) this is the main issue. You cant just kill peoples pets. She destroyed someone's property.

I suspect some folks cannot grasp the situation due to being on the Autism spectrum.

The logic system for them is.

Feral cat = KILL

KILL = not defined. (torture kill, acceptable, humane kill acceptable) logic centers do not process empathy or compassion.

Its black and white for them, ie: lack of empathy like the replicants of Blade Runner. So its kind of a waste of time to try and explain this.
 
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