Would you still tip if you knew your waiter made $10 an hour?

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Like you cry about tipping in kiwiworld, in the US most that have graduated college stop living with other people.

"freeing up your income" is what you do when you stop putting away to savings so much.

You end up living with people when you don't have so much free income.

The only 'adults' I know that roommated were also living in a 20k sq ft mansion on the beach. six way split and still a bigger 'sq ft' per person than most out there.

They had awesome fucking parties each week too.

Now that would be worth it.

Sharing some apartment no way!

Depends where you live. If you're in a costly city like London, NY or SF most single people have roommates. I lived with roommates until I was into my late 20s, including when I was in grad school. I haven't had roommates for many years but in many ways I preferred it to living alone.
 

alkemyst

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I'm living with flatmates so that I can save more.

How much you have in the bank?

We have all heard this many times...

If you could really save, you don't need 'flatmates' (roommates).

Trust me on this. You don't even like your roommates. You are doing it because you HAVE to.
 

alkemyst

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Exactly, it's a easy job, menial labor. They get paid minimum wage just like everyone else in practically every save for like 3 or 4. Just like with any job, if you don't make enough you get another one, just like we've all done. Millions of other people seem to be doing fine with minimum wage jobs without tips that make infinitely less than servers do.

If shooting for minimum wage, being a waiter or bartender is a rough job to take.

What income bracket are you in...post in a $20k range

I am thinking like $30-50k probably household with all your posts about being so cheap on people.
 

zerocool84

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If shooting for minimum wage, being a waiter or bartender is a rough job to take.

What income bracket are you in...post in a $20k range

I am thinking like $30-50k probably household with all your posts about being so cheap on people.

I don't need to make a lot of money because I don't have to buy all these rings for different wives or fiancées.
 

HAL9000

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this is incorrect. the waiter is not living or dying based on his tip income in Europe. Getting an extra pound or two is more insulting than it is "good job bro".

This was my point the waiter is not living or dying based on his tip income. As it should be. Getting an extra point or two is a compliment.

<---- Fiancee was a waitress.
 

Nebor

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If shooting for minimum wage, being a waiter or bartender is a rough job to take.

What income bracket are you in...post in a $20k range

I am thinking like $30-50k probably household with all your posts about being so cheap on people.

You're a tool. And a troll.

What's amazing is that you went through a reformed stage for a few years where you acted like a human being. You started off bragging about cars, money and jobs you didn't have, got railed on constantly, eventually became a half-way decent citizen of this community.... and then something changed you back. Divorce?
 

ahenkel

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This thread has inspired me to stop tipping and to also find a way to cost my waitstaff wages out of their own paycheck. Hopefully my actions will motivate them to get better jobs.
 

DCal430

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Where the Fack do YOU live?

Here in Kentucky, wait staff at Applebees (and every other tip credit establishment) make $2.13 Hr.
Their total receipts are added after each shift, 15% is added to that, whether customers tip or not.
Their W-2s are based on the ASSUMPTION that ALL customers tip 15%.

If, at the end of the week, the wait person has not accumulated total wages and (assumed) tips to total $7.15, the employer must make up the deficit to make it $7.25 Hr., Fed Min. wage.

I tip pretty much anyone who does an above average job, mechanics, movers, etc.

That goes double for Pizza Delivery drivers, they furnish their own cars, gas, insurance, maintenance, etc. just to keep my lazy ass from having to get out of the house!
I would never give a Pizza Driver less than $5.00!

I live in California, and here they don't do 15% to calculate the tips on the W2 almost everyplace does 8%.
 

alkemyst

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You're a tool. And a troll.

What's amazing is that you went through a reformed stage for a few years where you acted like a human being. You started off bragging about cars, money and jobs you didn't have, got railed on constantly, eventually became a half-way decent citizen of this community.... and then something changed you back. Divorce?

When did I brag about things I didn't have?

I am a tool and troll now because I don't believe in stiffing waiters or because I think at $10/hr they should still make tips?
 

Mike Gayner

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LOL @ alkemyst giving advice about life, considering what a massive train wreck your life is.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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If you knew the person at the checkout in the supermarket earns less than a waiter, would you tip her/him?

If you knew a busdriver earned less, would you tip them?

Here the minimum wages are higher, so unless you get good service there is no real reason to tip.
 

ahenkel

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If you knew the person at the checkout in the supermarket earns less than a waiter, would you tip her/him?

If you knew a busdriver earned less, would you tip them?

Here the minimum wages are higher, so unless you get good service there is no real reason to tip.

The difference is these two examples don't wait on you hand and foot and put up with all the customers crap. I'd tip my checkout person if they did all my shopping and took the time to verify everything was ok every few minutes.
 

Nik

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Checkers most certainly do put up with customer's crap. And they stand there in one spot for their shift, making feet and back pain a daily grind. Then they have to argue with customers who SWEAR the price on the shelf is different, blah blah blah the list goes on.

Tough shit. You deal with customers, that's part of your job. This is why they get a paycheck.
 

DCal430

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The difference is these two examples don't wait on you hand and foot and put up with all the customers crap. I'd tip my checkout person if they did all my shopping and took the time to verify everything was ok every few minutes.

In many restaurants waiters just take your order, bring your food and drinks, and you never see them again until the bill. They don't check on you all the time at all. When you run out of water to bad. Would you still tip at these places?
 

DCal430

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This thread has inspired me to stop tipping and to also find a way to cost my waitstaff wages out of their own paycheck. Hopefully my actions will motivate them to get better jobs.

If they kept a log book of the tips they received each day, they could just report the amount they received.

99&#37; of the time waiters receive far more tips than what is ever reported to the IRS.

Just so you know I always tip. If checkout stand had a tip jar, I would tip them too. Waiters do not deserve a tip any more than anyone else who earns a similar wage.
 
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alkemyst

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If you knew the person at the checkout in the supermarket earns less than a waiter, would you tip her/him?

If you knew a busdriver earned less, would you tip them?

Here the minimum wages are higher, so unless you get good service there is no real reason to tip.

Most checkers here are making about $32k a year.
 

DCal430

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Most checkers here are making about $32k a year.

With tips most waiters here make over 50K a year.

At most restaurants the waiters are some of the highest earning staff, earning significantly more than the chefs.
 
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Scotteq

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Here people tip usually 20% even though the average wait staff starts at around $10/hr. If you knew your waiter made $10 an hour would you still tip?

$10 an hour works out to be about $20,000 a year. That, presuming a 40 hour work week. Which a lot of wait staff do not get.

So yeah - I tip.
 

alkemyst

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With tips most waiters here make over 50K a year.

At most restaurants the waiters are some of the highest earning staff, earning significantly more than the chefs.

My point was checkers make more than $10hr