Would you run back to Intel if 2GHZ came out instead of 1.4 and 1.5GHZ?

[jblondi]

Im sure the AMD fellas are running around right now ranting, "OMG what are we going to do, those intel guys are going to release a Faster chip!" Come on! AMD has come around in the last few years, they are just saving the punch on Intel until its needed. Ive never owned an AMD but my next chip is going to be just that.

 

[jor888]

I dont know why u guys keep asking question like this when u know u cant even get ur hands on a new intel cpu and u probably cant even afford one so why even think about it?

 

[lumpyhed]

Organisations on the whole couldn't really care less about AMD it seems. Like at my college for example, they recently got a suite of P3-733's installed when they could of had T-Bird 750 for a better price. And they had those crap MS laser-ass-optical-mice

 

[hungrypete]

Not that I ever ran away from Intel, but if the price was reasonable I would buy a 2ghz P4. We can all be reasonably sure that the P4 is going to be pretty expensive at launch. I don't "hate" Intel by any means, they are a very good chip maker, but I think they are in a lull right now and I don't particularly like the way they advertise to the ignorant masses with borderline if not completely untrue information. I hate marketers in general though, so my opinion is extremely biased towards the quieter, cheaper companies.
Now on the other hand I wouldn't drive a Ford, because I hate them for no good reason. I like Chevy. Does that make me a dumbass or a sellout? Maybe....

 

[Remedy]

When you think about how long it took Intel to get the p3 to vendors, one must think about how long will it take to get the p4 to vendors AFTER Dell gets there full share of them. When Amd made the PR for there Gighertz the same week intel made their PR, AMD had there gighert on shelves almost like the same month as they said they would right? So when by the time P4 actually shows up on pricewatch or whatever, i think DDR and Mustang will be casting a large shadow over P4 by then.

 

[PliotronX]

<< we will see who is faster (performance wise, not mhz wise) when it comes out.

a deeper pipe allows higher mhz, but does less at each stage in the pipe (however there are more stages overall). this means that when the first instruction exits the pipe, every tick of the clock after that you'll get less instructions out of the pipe PER CLOCK, however the clock will be significantly higher.
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Good lord.. this definitely means my 700E is the last Intel chip I will ever own, period. I am so hoping AMD can get the DDR stuffz without a hitch, because I do not like the way Intel and RAMBUS are doing business. If what you say is correct, Intel will be releasing nothing new, just a massive Ghz rating to &quot;wow&quot; computer illiterates into buying them over AMD when in fact AMD chips cost less and perform hella better. Screw Intel and screw RAMBUS.

 

[Soccerman]

&quot;Intel develops products they think will dominate and lead the market like 64bit processing that does not work backworks with 32bit. AMD on the other hand develops products that the Comsumer needs.&quot;

actually, I agree with Intel moving away from the x86 architecture, becuase what AMD is currently doing is just delaying the inevitable. once programs run on 64 bit x86, what then? 128 bit x86? x86 is too slow. Intel was smart to leave it alone.

what this means though, is problems getting current software running on their 64 bit CPU's. it's a BIG problem. unfortunately not one easily solved.

AMD is having a great year, and will be doing very good, well into next year at worst. that is, conserning the CPU market.. they still have other markets (one is in HUGE demand, FLASH MEMORY).

what they need to do now, is get as much market share as possible, so that programs will begin to have optimizations for their processors (I highly doubt that they have really shown what is possible with this CPU, becuase programming has to take into account P3 as well, which only has 2 pipelines).

we don't even see that many optimizations for 3DNow! as well. (does Quake 3 have any? what about UT? what other games include support for 3DNow!, with or without a patch?)

we will begin to see programs designed with the Athlon in mind more then the P3. that is, unless Intel steals the show with their P4.

ALSO, AMD hasn't released all tweaks to their original core. that is, they won't have until their Mustang/Palomino. even then, I don't think they'll have implimented everything (most I think went to power consumption). it's sad that they had to resort to increasing the pipeline length, but I hope that they compensated with tweaks for speed per mhz..

 

[SSP]

What about overclocking guys? The FSB advantage is gone (I think). Its atready running at 400Mhz... How far can it go? I'm pretty sure the multipliers will be locked. I'll just let Tom do all the work.

 

[cptnwinky]

I have never had problem with intel chips, and brand loyalty is, well, dumb in my opinion. after about 500 or 600 mhz you don't see much, if any, of a performance boost, unless you're on a server or some type of graphics station, and how many of us have that luxury? if programs by that time can use 2 ghz chips, then by all means, otherwise i'll happily stay with the two boxes i have running now.(a 600mhz P3 server and a K6-2 500 that i use for everything else) they work beautifully

 

[MadRat]

The 400fsb is misleading. Its actually a 100fsb thats synchronized to the memory with four synchronized 16-bit memory channels. Any way you look at it, its really only 100mHz on the fsb. Its not much different than AMD's claim to a 200mHz fsb on the Athlon, although the technologies are really nothing alike.

Its amazing how &quot;fuzzy math&quot; in marketing can skew the reality of the CPU.