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HomerJS

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So you're a big supporter now? It figures.
I'm saying black people barbecuing does not equate to people spreading a deadly virus.

I'll ask again since curfews are also government mandated stay at home orders have you EVER objected to Mayors or Governors enacting curfews?
 

Commodus

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We have a Constitution and a 1st Amendment, some submissive cucks seem to resent my desire for freedom.


Seriously? As if the FBI and NSA aren't already tapping our communications? Do you really think restricting backyard BBQ's is making people safe?
Your freedom of assembly doesn't extend to threatening the lives of others by assembling. And you are threatening lives by assembling during a pandemic.

And yes, restricting backyard barbecues is making people safe. Viruses like this one spread through people getting close to each other. If you keep people apart, those viruses have trouble spreading. You can accept that scientific fact, or you can be wrong.
 

Paratus

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What law is it again that you have to report neighbors, family and friends from freely assembling? Can you cite the "law" ? Thank you.
When did I say there was a law requiring others to report this particular crime? (Here’s a hint I didn’t.)

I did say that if you don’t break the law you don’t have to worry about having the cops called on you.

In this case the laws the folks @HomerJS was referring to was the stay at home order signed by the governor of Pennsylvania which in part restricts large gatherings as was recently deemed constitutional by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/05/pa-extends-coronavirus-stay-at-home-order-until-june-4-24-counties-will-still-move-into-yellow-reopening-stage-friday.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-pennsylvania-stay-at-home-order-businesses/
 
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HumblePie

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Someone in your house could get ill enough to require hospitalization.

Imagine having to be admitted into a hospital full of workers that you don't give 2 shits what happens to them. Imagine those workers took unnecessary exposure because people are selfish.

Good luck with your ignorance and lack of empathy. It will come back and bite you in the ass eventually.

As you have demonstrated one of the requirements to slowing the spread of this virus is to care about others. You and most Trumpers are not capable.
That's funny because the countries, cities, and states with the least restrictive lock downs are the ones doing the best in every metric. From Sweden to Georgia. Doesn't seem like the lock downs are slowing the spread of anything. By contrast, the data shows the opposite so far.
 
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pauldun170

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imported_tajmahal

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That's funny because the countries, cities, and states with the least restrictive lock downs are the ones doing the best in every metric. From Sweden to Georgia. Doesn't seem like the lock downs are slowing the spread of anything. By contrast, the data shows the opposite so far.
They don't care about the data or the science. They just want to act submissive for the authorities.
 
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Sure thing Mr. "I'm not a Racist but like to use recognized racist language and spend loads of time retrospectively justifying the killing of black people by racist white people"...
Wuhan isn't a race.

China - the country - nor Chinese for the people that live there - aren't races either.

Quit allowing Chinese media propoganda to convince you of things that literally aren't true as a way of fanning flames of partisan bickering. You're doing precisely what china wants.
 

cytg111

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We have a Constitution and a 1st Amendment, some submissive cucks seem to resent my desire for freedom.


Seriously? As if the FBI and NSA aren't already tapping our communications? Do you really think restricting backyard BBQ's is making people safe?
Fortunately you have people to do that kind of thinking for you, so you dont break your head and come up with freeeeeeeeeedumb batshit that get ppl dead.
Right?
 

cytg111

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They don't care about the data or the science. They just want to act submissive for the authorities.
Sweden is not doing as great as you think... and the reason Sweden is doing as well as it is regardless is that it has a minimal amount of morons... like you know... you know...

And Georgia stopped reporting right? That Brian Kampf dude?
 
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abj13

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LOL, calling the virus by standard naming conventions of point of origin is not being racist. You thinking it is though might be. Or do you think calling the swine flu animalist? Ebola, Spanish Flu, Lime Disease, or any other said named virus in history racist/regionalist? Get over it.
There is a naming convention for coronaviruses already set in place by virology experts and other scientists including the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses . The SARS-CoV-2 virus is not sufficiently different enough from SARS-CoV-1 and all other SARS-related viruses to be called anything but a SARS virus. This group has been named this way for 17 years. The final name of SARS-CoV-2 was decided and published on March 2nd. The fact that you are purposely using the incorrect name for this virus nearly 3 months after this name was decided by virology experts clearly demonstrates how ignorant and purposefully toxic you are being by using an unaccepted name for SARS-CoV-2.
 

allisolm

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That's funny because the countries, cities, and states with the least restrictive lock downs are the ones doing the best in every metric. From Sweden to Georgia. Doesn't seem like the lock downs are slowing the spread of anything. By contrast, the data shows the opposite so far.
Not true.

" Sweden has one of the highest coronavirus death rates of any country — per capita, it's now worse than any other in Europe."

2020-5

edit: Sorry, pauldun170, I missed your earlier post containing this information..
 
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JEDIYoda

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That's funny because the countries, cities, and states with the least restrictive lock downs are the ones doing the best in every metric. From Sweden to Georgia. Doesn't seem like the lock downs are slowing the spread of anything. By contrast, the data shows the opposite so far.
why do you have to liue, so blatantly? You know you are iether lying or you proving what we already knew about you! That you are dishonest and cannot possibly be trusted in good faith to have a conversation! You are dismissed! You can take the walk of shame!!
 

HumblePie

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Not true.

" Sweden has one of the highest coronavirus death rates of any country — per capita, it's now worse than any other in Europe."

2020-5

edit: Sorry, pauldun170, I missed your earlier post containing this information..
Except...


Sweden isn't near the top. Not sure about that article. It's like 15th. In America, if you factor out the big urban democrat led cities or states, our death and infection rate is almost ziltch. Kind of like the murder rate in our country. The vast majority of deaths are from nursing homes in NYC and across California. All because the local governments there forced seniors to go to nursing homes instead of being treated at a hospital. Gave financial incentives as well for the places. It is a damn shit show. Even the majority of deaths in Texas are in the big cities. Houston, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, Potter, and San Antonio are all democrat led and have 99% of the deaths in the state. But hey, now that the "experts" are now saying what I've just said, are you still going to sing that tune?
 
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JEDIYoda

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Except...


Sweden isn't near the top. Not sure about that article. It's like 15th. In America, if you factor out the big urban democrat led cities or states, our death and infection rate is almost ziltch. Kind of like the murder rate in our country. The vast majority of deaths are from nursing homes in NYC and across California. All because the local governments there forced seniors to go to nursing homes instead of being treated at a hospital. Gave financial incentives as well for the places. It is a damn shit show. Even the majority of deaths in Texas are in the big cities. Houston, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, Potter, and San Antonio are all democrat led and have 99% of the deaths in the state. But hey, now that the "experts" are now saying what I've just said, are you still going to sing that tune?
that still does not deflect from the fact that you lied......
 

cytg111

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I cant wrap my head around two distinct instances of this phenomenon on planet earth... This has got to be slow or the other way around. I mean if there are two of them, there might be three and if there is three... I mean shitbuckets!
 

allisolm

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Except...


Sweden isn't near the top. Not sure about that article. It's like 15th. Blah, blah,blah...But hey, now that the "experts" are now saying what I've just said, are you still going to sing that tune?
You said Sweden was doing the best in EVERY metric. That is simply not true. Moving the goalposts now doesn't cut it.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Except...


Sweden isn't near the top. Not sure about that article. It's like 15th. In America, if you factor out the big urban democrat led cities or states, our death and infection rate is almost ziltch. Kind of like the murder rate in our country. The vast majority of deaths are from nursing homes in NYC and across California. All because the local governments there forced seniors to go to nursing homes instead of being treated at a hospital. Gave financial incentives as well for the places. It is a damn shit show. Even the majority of deaths in Texas are in the big cities. Houston, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, Potter, and San Antonio are all democrat led and have 99% of the deaths in the state. But hey, now that the "experts" are now saying what I've just said, are you still going to sing that tune?
So it's the democrats fault. got it. Apparently, SARS2 has a political affiliation now. BTW, I'm calling the China Hoax Flu "SARS2"
 
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outriding

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Since there is a stay at home order issued in that state it is reasonable to call the police.

Here is a snippet of the actual law


State, local, and tribal authorities

Enforce isolation and quarantine within their borders.
It is possible for federal, state, local, and tribal health authorities to have and use all at the same time separate but coexisting legal quarantine power in certain events. In the event of a conflict, federal law is supreme.

Federal isolation and quarantine are authorized for these communicable diseases
Cholera
Diphtheria
Infectious tuberculosis
Plague
Smallpox
Yellow fever
Viral hemorrhagic fevers
Severe acute respiratory syndromes
Flu that can cause a pandemic
Federal isolation and quarantine are authorized by Executive Order of the President. The President can revise this list by Executive Order.


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Since there is no EO the state then can issue their own orders
 

HumblePie

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You said Sweden was doing the best in EVERY metric. That is simply not true. Moving the goalposts now doesn't cut it.
I said that areas with lesser lock down restrictions are doing better in every metric. The from Sweden to Georgia is a sweeping generalization of such areas. I never specifically was pointing to one place or another with that statement.
 

Commodus

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I said that areas with lesser lock down restrictions are doing better in every metric. The from Sweden to Georgia is a sweeping generalization of such areas. I never specifically was pointing to one place or another with that statement.
Wait, wait... "they're doing better in every metric, except that one of the most prominent examples clearly isn't?"

You're trying to reshuffle the criteria to avoid admitting that you made a demonstrably false statement. Please just accept that you're wrong instead of digging the hole ever deeper.
 

cytg111

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I said that areas with lesser lock down restrictions are doing better in every metric. The from Sweden to Georgia is a sweeping generalization of such areas. I never specifically was pointing to one place or another with that statement.
Hehehehe.... can you think of a reason ... another reason why that would be? NY would have been better off you think? Cause? Magic Unicorns?

If this is what the US is dealing with to the count of 60 million then holy fuck Moses....
 

HumblePie

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Wait, wait... "they're doing better in every metric, except that one of the most prominent examples clearly isn't?"

You're trying to reshuffle the criteria to avoid admitting that you made a demonstrably false statement. Please just accept that you're wrong instead of digging the hole ever deeper.
No, the first is one is the statement to effect. The second was just some examples and there are plenty more. Countries with less restrictions on whole are doing better than countries with more restrictions on whole. Same with cities, states, and any other area. If you want to nitpick on Sweden in my example, feel free.
 

brycejones

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No, the first is one is the statement to effect. The second was just some examples and there are plenty more. Countries with less restrictions on whole are doing better than countries with more restrictions on whole. Same with cities, states, and any other area. If you want to nitpick on Sweden in my example, feel free.
Lordy
 

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