Would you protest if a section 8 apartment was being built in your neighborhood?

[paperfist]

Also, anyone who says they wouldn't care is a fucking idiot. Or a trashball. But probably a fucking idiot.

Or they are the landlord collecting mailed to your door rent money every month.

 

[Zargon]

yeah no thanks

some develper is putting a 'condo' developement near me and had a public input session, I was OK once they said 'purchase only no rent/lease' option

 

[waggy]

[citation needed]

i hate to do it..it makes me feel dirty. BUT he is right (at least in IL).

Chicago is tearing down a good portion of the section 8 housing (camprina green) and building more in rural areas. the idea is to get them out of the city away from the crime etc. it will help straighten them out and reduce crime in the city.

I should mention by rural i don't mean farming area like where i live. but in the far burbs.

 

[nick1985]

Yeah they are putting them in DeKalb and now DeKalb has turned into a fucking dump.

Glad I don't live anywhere near that dump anymore.

 

[highland145]

We were already lower middle income when they built Sec. 8 apartments in my neighborhood.

Actually went well for the first several years because they had a strong manager. No loitering, loud music, broken down vehicles, no worthless baby daddies, etc. Fell apart after that and so did the neighborhood when "investors" started buying everything they could. Sec. 8 pays $700 for a 3br 1 b around here.

Edit: could always have a hurricane and move the low rent to Texas. Worked the last time.

 

[waggy]

Yeah they are putting them in DeKalb and now DeKalb has turned into a fucking dump.

Glad I don't live anywhere near that dump anymore.

same.

its majorly mismanaged and turning into a dump. Have you seen the new high school? fuck. it can have 3000 (paper said 4k if they cram them in) students. last year they had 1500 students..WTF why do they need such a huge school? such a waste of tax payer money.

only time i go into dekalb now is for walmart and hivee.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

i hate to do it..it makes me feel dirty. BUT he is right (at least in IL).

Chicago is tearing down a good portion of the section 8 housing (camprina green) and building more in rural areas. the idea is to get them out of the city away from the crime etc. it will help straighten them out and reduce crime in the city.

I should mention by rural i don't mean farming area like where i live. but in the far burbs.

going to look forward to watching this fail miserably.
lol govt.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

there are 2 duplexes a few houses down from my place. I hqte the people and their kids. I really don't want my boys hanging around them. wish the places would burn down.

 

[PokerGuy]

You'd be absolutely stupid to not IMMEDIATELY sell the house -- no matter how big of a loss you had to take -- and move. I'd literally be on the phone to a real estate agent within 2 minutes of finding out.

 

[nick1985]

there are 2 duplexes a few houses down from my place. I hqte the people and their kids. I really don't want my boys hanging around them. wish the places would burn down.

For a nominal fee, I'm sure some sort of 'accident' can be arranged.

 

[PokerGuy]

The fact is that the location isn't the cause of the problem, it's the people. Moving them to another place is not going to solve anything, it's just going to screw up some other place. The only way it can work is if you have one single family unit here and there (ie, not a bunch together), and you have to be very strict: two complaints from the neighbors and you're gone.

 

[Zargon]

Also, anyone who says they wouldn't care is a fucking idiot. Or a trashball. But probably a fucking idiot.

yup.

my part of town is still decent, but it used to be NICE till they tossed about 1000 units of section 8 in.(thanks chicago for shipping them downstate on the amtrak!)

most of the crime is limited to the areas right around the sec8 housing, but not all of it. random breakin sprees through the neighborhoods, near the closest grocery stores and gas stations there are robberys or assaults.

localized crime rate more than doubled once they started going sec 8. most of them have been revoked, but the leases can last years and cant be terminated unless they fail to pay the piddly 'rent' fee, often a few bucks a month.

there have been more shootings in the area in the last 3 years, than there were in the previous 20+, and the neighborhood is over 40 years old so its not like it didnt exist before.

you cant even go to the main gas station in the area at night because its all loiterers talking smack to anyone who goes there

 

[nick1985]

^

Where do you live?

 

[waggy]

going to look forward to watching this fail miserably.
lol govt.

oh it already has.

The plan was to tear down the huge hi rise apartments that chicago is famous for (caprina green) and build a bunch of nice duplex's in chicago and in the surrounding burbs (yea as nick said dekabl is one) and move people into them. They even had a developer agree to build them.

So what the city do? tore down the buildings. this is BEFORE any of the replacement buildings were done. So the city and people were scrambling to get into anywhere they can. They are moving some out to the far burbs and such.

it was a major clusterfuck.

 

[kami333]

The fact is that the location isn't the cause of the problem, it's the people. Moving them to another place is not going to solve anything, it's just going to screw up some other place. The only way it can work is if you have one single family unit here and there (ie, not a bunch together), and you have to be very strict: two complaints from the neighbors and you're gone.

That's generally how it is where I live. I live on the edge of gentrification, there's a still a couple section 8s remaining on my street and they aren't any different from any of the other houses on the street. Go 5 blocks north where the area is still being transformed and it's a much different story, subsidized housing is still clumped together and is much seedier.


On the note about gentrification and rising real estate price, I just found out my next door neighbor bought their place ~20years ago for $10k, now I pay more than that in rent every year.

 

[kami333]

yeah no thanks

some develper is putting a 'condo' developement near me and had a public input session, I was OK once they said 'purchase only no rent/lease' option

Careful, last place I rented was originally being built for purchase only but when the real estate market slowed they started renting the units out to keep afloat. Worked out nicely for me since the place was much nicer than the usually apartment complex.

 

[OCGuy]

Yes it is. There are a lot of upscale apartments that offer affordable housing on select units (people making less than 60k a year).

I just used a quick google-foo and didnt see anything in Anaheim Hills, CA.

 

[Zargon]

^

Where do you live?

one of the only 'blue' counties that isnt ESL, Winnebago, or tri county area

oh it already has.

The plan was to tear down the huge hi rise apartments that chicago is famous for (caprina green) and build a bunch of nice duplex's in chicago and in the surrounding burbs (yea as nick said dekabl is one) and move people into them. They even had a developer agree to build them.

So what the city do? tore down the buildings. this is BEFORE any of the replacement buildings were done. So the city and people were scrambling to get into anywhere they can. They are moving some out to the far burbs and such.

it was a major clusterfuck.

yeah they tore cabrini down FAST.

and shipped people to rantoul, danville, decatur, who were all dumb enough to accept them. even kankakee was smart enough to say NO, and thats saying something. Dekalb, Rockford got some, I'm sure there are more places. Even Milwaukee ended up with some

Careful, last place I rented was originally being built for purchase only but when the real estate market slowed they started renting the units out to keep afloat. Worked out nicely for me since the place was much nicer than the usually apartment complex.

yeah that would be total shit.

I will raise more trouble later when I see the plans get more finalized, they are trying to build like 25 2-3 bedroom 'townhomes/condos' and put in about 30 parking spots. I will fight that till the end, as I dont want those fuckers parking in front of my house all the damn time, since its on a major street and my side street is the closest to it.

its going to be atleast a year till they break ground, if it passes through, they need a zoning change to go from C something to R2 , its going where a closed private pool was(sadly, its where i went growing up)

 

[kami333]

I will raise more trouble later when I see the plans get more finalized, they are trying to build like 25 2-3 bedroom 'townhomes/condos' and put in about 30 parking spots. I will fight that till the end, as I dont want those fuckers parking in front of my house all the damn time, since its on a major street and my side street is the closest to it.

I never understood that, unless you live downtown in a mass transit friendly city (NYC, Chicago, Boston) I've never understood how they get away with it. Developers should be required to plan at least 1.5 spaces per unit.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

I just used a quick google-foo and didnt see anything in Anaheim Hills, CA.

Ah yeah, that's mostly houses there. I wouldn't be surprised if one of these offered it though:

http://www.apartmentguide.com/apartments/California/Anaheim-Hills

I think the affordable housing program might be different than section 8. Some apartments call it the "bond" program. My friend actually just rented a 2 bedroom apartment for $1600 a month (usually $2200 I think) using this program.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Also, anyone who says they wouldn't care is a fucking idiot. Or a trashball. But probably a fucking idiot.

Plenty of section 8 a block from me. Also plenty of million dollar homes, go figure.

 

[torpid]

No, because:

A) I rent and therefore have no real right to protest

B) There already is a section-8-ish apartment complex nearby without issues

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

how does one look up whether there is S8 housing nearby?
are there a state/local websites generally?

i don't think i have any near me, judging by the *ahem* demographics in my town.

 

[Capt Caveman]

how does one look up whether there is S8 housing nearby?
are there a state/local websites generally?

i don't think i have any near me, judging by the *ahem* demographics in my town.

You should be able to perform a search on section 8, affordable housing, etc on your city/town to a get listing. And if you're interested, use Zillow to find out housing prices around those types of housing.

 

[Aikouka]

I've actually heard all races of retards use the "word" "axe" instead of "ask." I think it has more to do with income level and possibly geographic location than race.

It's actually "aks".