Would you have abandoned ship if you were the captain of that Costa Concordia cruise?

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ichy

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Italians are like the French, courage is simply not a trait that matters in that part of the world.

Fuck you, ignorant little troll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_139#Hijack

Upon the announcement by the hijackers that the airline crew and non-Jewish passengers would be released and put on another Air France plane that had been brought to Entebbe for that purpose, the flight captain Michel Bacos told the hijackers that all passengers, including those remaining, were his responsibility and that he would not leave them behind. Bacos' entire crew followed suit.
 

spidey07

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When US Airways 1549 went into the Hudson the captain was the last man off, after he'd checked the cabin twice for any remaining passengers. When Air France 358 overran the runway in Toronto the captain and first officer both went down the length of the aisles to look for missed survivors even as the plane was burning around them. That's the responsibility of the captain of a ship or an airliner.

Yep. You are responsible for their lives.
 
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Ian McShane?

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SKORPI0

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Didn't the ship run aground, so water was not deep at all? So the only way you can get killed is be trapped on a part of the ship that is underwater or be crushed by the melee of people trying to get on the little boats. :\
 

LookBehindYou

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I voted 1/10 because I haven't read anything about the ship and just assumed he got off at the last minute but didn't save everyone. However, after reading alot more info, yeah that guy is a real piece of shit.
 

TXHokie

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How can one be so spineless and become captain? The process must not be very stringent.
 

darkxshade

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How can one be so spineless and become captain? The process must not be very stringent.


Well considering large ships usually don't crash in a fiery ball of death, yea I would say courage probably wasn't really a high priority during the hiring process. Though I would think navigation ability would be. :\
 

Markbnj

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I understand sitting on the shore, its easy to criticize someone for his decision in a life and death situation

It wasn't a life or death situation for him. She's in shallow water, and maybe, just maybe she would have rolled all the way onto her side, but she wasn't going anywhere, and you can sit on a bulkhead as easily as the deck if you have to.

God knows what was going through his head. At the very least he knew the second he heard the first crunch that his career as a master of passenger vessels was over. I'm guessing he either just flaked, or for some reason he really thought all or most of the passengers were off. That's a benefit of the doubt that it's hard to give him, though. Anyway, they're going to crucify him.
 

Hugo Drax

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How can one be so spineless and become captain? The process must not be very stringent.

I think from what I read he was a chief security guard and got promoted to captain.

Cost cutting, If they would have paid a proper salary to hire a real captain this event would have never happened at all and the ship would have reached it's destination with no problem.

Trying to pinch pennies they lost a boat that could cost 1 billion.

Penny wise, pound foolish.
 

Imp

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Shouldn't be surprised... Do something as douchey as taking a half-billion dollar ship with a few thousand on board close to shore to buzz a town, allegedly, then abandoning ship is gravy.
 

DVad3r

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It's easy to write stuff on the internet after the fact. You never know what people feel in situations like that, tough call.
 

ichy

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It's easy to write stuff on the internet after the fact. You never know what people feel in situations like that, tough call.

No, it's not tough. This was not some guy who was thrust into a difficult situation. He made the choice to accept the job as a ship's captain and he knew damned well the responsibilities that came with this job. It's not a surprise that a captain is responsible for the safety of his passengers.
 

Theb

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He must have attended The Zapp Brannigan School of Leadership

Captain Zapp Brannigan: Don't blame yourself, Kif. We were doomed from the start. I guess all that remains now is for the captain to go down with the ship.
Lt. Kif Kroker: That's surprisingly noble of you, sir.
Captain Zapp Brannigan: No, it's noble of you, Kif. As of now, you're in command. Congratulations, Captain.
 

waggy

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It's easy to write stuff on the internet after the fact. You never know what people feel in situations like that, tough call.

then don't take a job that has such responsibility it would be like getting a job as a fireman and refusing to go to a fire.


this man refused to do his job and got people killed.
 

Capt Caveman

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It's easy to write stuff on the internet after the fact. You never know what people feel in situations like that, tough call.

Yep, his first thought should have been his responsibility to the passengers and crew of his ship. But instead, he only cared about himself even after being ordered by multiple authorities to go back on the ship to help people.

Thankfully, he's been charged with manslaughter and will go to jail for a long time.
 

darkxshade

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It's easy to write stuff on the internet after the fact. You never know what people feel in situations like that, tough call.


It's not about what or how we feel. It has been about what is expected of you in a certain role. None of us are blaming any of the crew/officers for abandoning ship... just the captain. Sure it's easy to write this... it's also why I'm not a ship captain.
 

Pantoot

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I think from what I read he was a chief security guard and got promoted to captain.

Cost cutting, If they would have paid a proper salary to hire a real captain this event would have never happened at all and the ship would have reached it's destination with no problem.

Trying to pinch pennies they lost a boat that could cost 1 billion.

Penny wise, pound foolish.

You think you might have read something somewhere and your logical jump is to pin the deaths of at least five people on what you perceive to be Carnival Corporation's criminally negligent cost cutting?
 

Number1

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I think from what I read he was a chief security guard and got promoted to captain.

Cost cutting, If they would have paid a proper salary to hire a real captain this event would have never happened at all and the ship would have reached it's destination with no problem.

Trying to pinch pennies they lost a boat that could cost 1 billion.

Penny wise, pound foolish.

Sources?
 

Clinkster

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It's easy to write stuff on the internet after the fact. You never know what people feel in situations like that, tough call.

Either you're desperate to play devil's advocate or you haven't read into this enough.
 

KeithTalent

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Those transcripts are truly damning and astonishing. It's like out of a movie.

KT
 

Markbnj

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I think from what I read he was a chief security guard and got promoted to captain.

Cost cutting, If they would have paid a proper salary to hire a real captain this event would have never happened at all and the ship would have reached it's destination with no problem.

Trying to pinch pennies they lost a boat that could cost 1 billion.

Penny wise, pound foolish.

I don't believe it. Nobody gets a Master's License and the command of a half-billion dollar passenger vessel without many, many years of deck officer experience. It might be the toughest profession in the world to get into, after Starship Captain.
 

amdhunter

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I'd jump ship. Why should I give my life for a bunch of people who wouldn't do it for me?
 

PlasmaBomb

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De Falco: "Look Schettino, you might have been saved from the sea, but I will make sure you go through a very rough time&#8230;I will make sure you go through a lot of trouble. Get on board, damn it."

Don't fuck with De Falco.