Would you ever buy an Aston Martin in Automatic?

Smartazz

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My cousin's friend got an Aston Martin DB9(V12 engine) with an automatic transmission. If you're going to buy a car like that, why would anyone buy it in auto unless you couldn't drive stick, but I would learn to drive stick if I bought a car like that. Would you learn stick to drive a car like that?
 

mrSHEiK124

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If I had the money to drop on that much of a car,
1. I'd probably get an Audi A8, mmmmm W12
2. I'd learn to drive a fscking manual
 

Amused

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If I was going to use it as a daily driver in LA I would probably get an auto, or a selectable tranny.

You can never understand until you drive the freeways in LA. An hour+ a day of stop and go traffic will have you cursing a stick in no time.
 

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Originally posted by: Smartazz
If you're going to buy a car like that, why would anyone buy it in auto unless you couldn't drive stick, but I would learn to drive stick if I bought a car like that.
Excuse me, Mr. E-Lord of the Intarweb, but your mother says you simply HAVE to clean your room -- it's a disgusting pig sty, young man -- or no allowance for YOU this week. :roll:

 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: Amused
If I was going to use it as a daily driver in LA I would probably get an auto, or a selectable tranny.

You can never understand until you drive the freeways in LA. An hour+ a day of stop and go traffic will have you cursing a stick in no time.
QFTMFT!!!! There have been days that I've driven for 2 or more hours and barely gotten out of 2nd gear the whole time. 1st... 2nd... stop. 1st... 2nd... stop. By the end of the day my knee in my clutch leg is absolutely KILLING me.

 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: Aflac
Pierce Brosnan might. He can't drive manual.
If I am not mistaken, that is true of that new guy they got for the Bond movie about to come out, but not Brosnan.
 

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Probably got a nice Ford slush box in there!
Jeez, thought you knew a bit more about cars than that! The DB9 sports a slick 6 speed ZF unit.
Successor to the DB7, the DB9 has a "drive-by-wire" six-speed automatic gearbox that uses electronics in place of the mechanical or hydraulic connections on a traditional transmission. So instead of a traditional gear shift lever between the front seats, the driver selects Drive, Park, Neutral and Reverse with buttons. Manual mode enables the driver to change gears using Formula-1 race car-inspired paddles mounted behind the steering wheel.


 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Probably got a nice Ford slush box in there!
Jeez, thought you knew a bit more about cars than that! The DB9 sports a slick 6 speed ZF unit.
Successor to the DB7, the DB9 has a "drive-by-wire" six-speed automatic gearbox that uses electronics in place of the mechanical or hydraulic connections on a traditional transmission. So instead of a traditional gear shift lever between the front seats, the driver selects Drive, Park, Neutral and Reverse with buttons. Manual mode enables the driver to change gears using Formula-1 race car-inspired paddles mounted behind the steering wheel.

Bingo, even better performance then. I wouldn't buy a +$100,000 sports car these days without an F-1 style transmission.
 

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Probably got a nice Ford slush box in there!
Jeez, thought you knew a bit more about cars than that! The DB9 sports a slick 6 speed ZF unit.
Successor to the DB7, the DB9 has a "drive-by-wire" six-speed automatic gearbox that uses electronics in place of the mechanical or hydraulic connections on a traditional transmission. So instead of a traditional gear shift lever between the front seats, the driver selects Drive, Park, Neutral and Reverse with buttons. Manual mode enables the driver to change gears using Formula-1 race car-inspired paddles mounted behind the steering wheel.

Bingo, even better performance then. I wouldn't buy a +$100,000 sports car these days without an F-1 style transmission.
From edmunds:
But the real fun doesn't begin until you get familiar with the magnesium paddle shifters located just ahead of the steering wheel. Like any "automanual" design, they allow you to easily upshift and downshift the six-speed transmission without removing your hands from the wheel. But unlike any other system we've tried, this one works with the responsiveness and fluidity of a true manual?even though it has a torque converter instead of a clutch. While you can order your DB9 equipped with a traditional manual transmission, this is the first high-performance car we'd happily take in automatic form. It offers all the seamless gear changes you'd expect when left in "Drive," but it responds instantly when you tap the paddles and even rev-matches with spot-on accuracy when downshifting. If the Aston Martin folks had told us it was a true sequential manual transmission, we would have believed them.


 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Probably got a nice Ford slush box in there!
Jeez, thought you knew a bit more about cars than that! The DB9 sports a slick 6 speed ZF unit.
Successor to the DB7, the DB9 has a "drive-by-wire" six-speed automatic gearbox that uses electronics in place of the mechanical or hydraulic connections on a traditional transmission. So instead of a traditional gear shift lever between the front seats, the driver selects Drive, Park, Neutral and Reverse with buttons. Manual mode enables the driver to change gears using Formula-1 race car-inspired paddles mounted behind the steering wheel.

Bingo, even better performance then. I wouldn't buy a +$100,000 sports car these days without an F-1 style transmission.
From edmunds:
But the real fun doesn't begin until you get familiar with the magnesium paddle shifters located just ahead of the steering wheel. Like any "automanual" design, they allow you to easily upshift and downshift the six-speed transmission without removing your hands from the wheel. But unlike any other system we've tried, this one works with the responsiveness and fluidity of a true manual?even though it has a torque converter instead of a clutch. While you can order your DB9 equipped with a traditional manual transmission, this is the first high-performance car we'd happily take in automatic form. It offers all the seamless gear changes you'd expect when left in "Drive," but it responds instantly when you tap the paddles and even rev-matches with spot-on accuracy when downshifting. If the Aston Martin folks had told us it was a true sequential manual transmission, we would have believed them.



I believe its the same tranny in the new Jaguar XR and XKR. If it is, then man it is an excellent transmission.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Smartazz
My cousin's friend got an Aston Martin DB9(V12 engine) with an automatic transmission. If you're going to buy a car like that, why would anyone buy it in auto unless you couldn't drive stick, but I would learn to drive stick if I bought a car like that. Would you learn stick to drive a car like that?

Why wouldn't you?

Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Smartazz
If you're going to buy a car like that, why would anyone buy it in auto unless you couldn't drive stick, but I would learn to drive stick if I bought a car like that.
Excuse me, Mr. E-Lord of the Intarweb, but your mother says you simply HAVE to clean your room -- it's a disgusting pig sty, young man -- or no allowance for YOU this week. :roll:

:D :thumbsup:
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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I sure as hell would; since Aston really knows how to excel at the F1 implementation. I have yet to drive a DB9, but I have driven a Vanquish with the Stage 4 F1 tranny, which as I understand is exactly what they based the DB9 tranny on. The quality and speed of the shifts were absolutely mindboggling; and when downshifting the transmission handles the rev-matching on its own, so you never, EVER got that surge when the new gear engaged. Rather, it felt like a good, clean, perfect shift followed by immense acceleration. The smaller details of operating such a car as a daily driver take some time to learn; the sales director who provided me the Vanquish drive mentioned that it's advisable to keep the car in neutral when stopped for a long light for instance, and that there was an additional trick required for reverse. Neutral was acheived by pulling on both paddle shifters simultaneously.

I was also told that the Vanquish (and perhaps the DB9 too?) has several driving modes for use with the paddle shifters... one is the sport mode in which driving the car is an active effort (most fun!) but one could also choose the full automatic in which the car would behave like your standard, traditional automatic passenger car. Only faster. So yes... I would definitely buy an automatic Aston.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Wait a minute, when you guys say automatic Aston Martin, are you implying it has an SMG? In that case, screw M/T, sequential FTW.
 
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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Wait a minute, when you guys say automatic Aston Martin, are you implying it has an SMG? In that case, screw M/T, sequential FTW.

No, it's a true automatic. I would personally still prefer a stick, because that's a lot of the fun of driving IMO, but by all accounts the AM/XF auto is excellent, and significantly less fussy than a SMG.
 

GagHalfrunt

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1) The Aston Martin is a luxury, image car bought by people who want comfort and convenience. It might have a V-12, but it's target audience is poseurs, NOT boy racers.
2) Capable, trained drivers generall regard the Aston Martin F-1 style gearbox as the biggest piece of junk in the world. It's not really a paddle shift manual, it's a computer-controlled paddle shift automatic with a computer that thinks that nobody should be driving fast. It refuses to allow the type of shifts that are used in performance driving and only lets you make the kind of moves that a Buick slushbox would make.

NOBODY ON EARTH is buying a DB9 because they want to drive like Mario Andretti. They're buying it to be seen in it, period. Anyone that's shopping in that price range that wants a car they can really drive is buying an F430 Modena.
 

thomsbrain

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it isn't exactly a porsche or a ferrari. it's a touring car, not a sports car. an automatic is probably the ideal transmission for that car and the type of person who would buy one.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Probably got a nice Ford slush box in there!
Jeez, thought you knew a bit more about cars than that! The DB9 sports a slick 6 speed ZF unit.
Successor to the DB7, the DB9 has a "drive-by-wire" six-speed automatic gearbox that uses electronics in place of the mechanical or hydraulic connections on a traditional transmission. So instead of a traditional gear shift lever between the front seats, the driver selects Drive, Park, Neutral and Reverse with buttons. Manual mode enables the driver to change gears using Formula-1 race car-inspired paddles mounted behind the steering wheel.

Bingo, even better performance then. I wouldn't buy a +$100,000 sports car these days without an F-1 style transmission.

i still think i'd stick with a traditional manual.. paddle shifting just seems so.... soulless for a performance vehicle :p