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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: Duddy
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: Duddy
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: spaceman
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Needs more background, do I even know these people?
you only know their 1st names.
and you have to base your decision on that alone.
does it influence it one way or the other.
please answer honestly ion the pole.
No. So, what do I vote?
Poll Fail.
MotionMan
It's not that hard to grasp. Would you rather lend your money to a Mexican man or a white guy? I voted John. Only because I had a bad experience with someone named Juan
What if the answer is that the name does not influence me at all? There is no poll selection for that.
MotionMan
Then don't vote. That's like arguing that McDonald's doesn't serve pizza.
I do not get your point. McDonald's does not serve pizza anymore because it did not sell well: McDonald's Pizza.
MotionMan
I never had McDonald's pizza in the US, but when I went to Europe in 1996 the closest thing I found to NY style pizza was at a McDonald's in Nice. :Q And it wasn't bad.
This is the most racist post in the thread...Originally posted by: QueBert
Juan, mexicans work harder than typical white people. a Juan might very well be willing to pull weeds all day to make $25 bucks. Mexican people don't ask to borrow money though so this thread is kind of pointless. They'll stand outside a Home Depot and offer to work all day for literally a few bucks before they ask somebody to borrow money. A john could be on the side of a freeway with a sign "homeless, need money" where the Juan will be at least trying to sell Oranges or Flowers or something. I've never seen a Mexican person with a "give me money sign" ever.
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
What if it was Professor Juan and John huh? What then?
Originally posted by: newnameman
This is the most racist post in the thread...Originally posted by: QueBert
Juan, mexicans work harder than typical white people. a Juan might very well be willing to pull weeds all day to make $25 bucks. Mexican people don't ask to borrow money though so this thread is kind of pointless. They'll stand outside a Home Depot and offer to work all day for literally a few bucks before they ask somebody to borrow money. A john could be on the side of a freeway with a sign "homeless, need money" where the Juan will be at least trying to sell Oranges or Flowers or something. I've never seen a Mexican person with a "give me money sign" ever.
i wouldn't loan money to juanita with the rack... she'd probably be willing to earn itOriginally posted by: spaceman
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
What if it was Professor Juan and John huh? What then?
id like to not get lost in hypotheticals here.
its like saying well who would you loan money 2
fat john or juanita with the rack
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: Duddy
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: Duddy
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: spaceman
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Needs more background, do I even know these people?
you only know their 1st names.
and you have to base your decision on that alone.
does it influence it one way or the other.
please answer honestly ion the pole.
No. So, what do I vote?
Poll Fail.
MotionMan
It's not that hard to grasp. Would you rather lend your money to a Mexican man or a white guy? I voted John. Only because I had a bad experience with someone named Juan
What if the answer is that the name does not influence me at all? There is no poll selection for that.
MotionMan
Then don't vote. That's like arguing that McDonald's doesn't serve pizza.
I do not get your point. McDonald's does not serve pizza anymore because it did not sell well: McDonald's Pizza.
MotionMan
I never had McDonald's pizza in the US, but when I went to Europe in 1996 the closest thing I found to NY style pizza was at a McDonald's in Nice. :Q And it wasn't bad.
The last time I was in Vegas, the McDonald's near the Strip was still selling pizza. That seems like eons ago, though.
MotionMan
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: spaceman
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Needs more background, do I even know these people?
you only know their 1st names.
and you have to base your decision on that alone.
does it influence it one way or the other.
please answer honestly ion the pole.
No. So, what do I vote?
Poll Fail.
MotionMan
Originally posted by: n yusef
This study shows with identical resumes, people with "black-sounding" names had a 50% less chance of getting a call-back. Text. I would assume that Latino's and other minorities would face the same name discrimination. So while I wouldn't be less apt to lend Juan money than I would John (all things equal), I assume that other people would be.
Originally posted by: zeruty
Originally posted by: n yusef
This study shows with identical resumes, people with "black-sounding" names had a 50% less chance of getting a call-back. Text. I would assume that Latino's and other minorities would face the same name discrimination. So while I wouldn't be less apt to lend Juan money than I would John (all things equal), I assume that other people would be.
Well.
Let that be a lesson to the black woman named Ann. Or Sarah. Or Angela. Or Karen. Who wants to name her kid Laquisha. Or Taniqua. Or Talitha. You need to realize you are only doing a disservice to your child. If you're like 10th generation in this country, and your name, your parents' names, your grandparents' names, etc were all normal Americanized names.... Why the fuck do you gotta think you need to indulge in some heritage that isn't really yours?
Honestly I don't know why any American would want to name their kid that. The Koreans understand this. So do a lot of others...
Originally posted by: zeruty
Originally posted by: n yusef
This study shows with identical resumes, people with "black-sounding" names had a 50% less chance of getting a call-back. Text. I would assume that Latino's and other minorities would face the same name discrimination. So while I wouldn't be less apt to lend Juan money than I would John (all things equal), I assume that other people would be.
Well.
Let that be a lesson to the black woman named Ann. Or Sarah. Or Angela. Or Karen. Who wants to name her kid Laquisha. Or Taniqua. Or Talitha. You need to realize you are only doing a disservice to your child. If you're like 10th generation in this country, and your name, your parents' names, your grandparents' names, etc were all normal Americanized names.... Why the fuck do you gotta think you need to indulge in some heritage that isn't really yours?
Honestly I don't know why any American would want to name their kid that. The Koreans understand this. So do a lot of others...
No I dont. Is the only way you can win an argument by starting one and then putting words in my mouth?Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Areas infested with illegals are also infested with loan sharks. In areas without illegals you might have one in a whole town, and they dont do very well.Originally posted by: sdifox
How is that taking advantage of? Paycheck loans are shady to start with, I am not even sure why they are allowed to exist.Originally posted by: shortylickens
If the amount of Cash Advance joints in my town is any indication, this is probably true.Originally posted by: mugs
I voted for Juan. I figured with all the people wanting to lend to John, I could probably charge Juan a higher interest rate.
I'm not happy with illegals at all, but I have to admit its pretty messed up how many people want to take advantage of them with all the Cash Advance, Paycheck Advance, Title Loans and other shit. Its like legalized loan-sharking.
You dont pay, they call immigration.
Again, I hate illegal aliens but I dont think its moral or ethical to fuck them over while they're here.
As for your question, they are legal businesses because loaning is legal. And they are smart enough to only loan to people who will never, ever call the cops on them.
I bet if I walked in and tried to get some business from them they would find an excuse to not help me.
Please...
Do you also believe credit card companies should be banned from coming to college campuses and handing students free bagpacks or a McDonald's lunch?
Originally posted by: QueBert
Have you even seen the movie Roots? The scene with the slave master whipping Lavar Burton and saying "what's your name boy?" "Kunta!" *whips him again* "your names Toby Boy, now what's your name boy?" "my names Kunta" *whips again* The reason has a lot to do with Black people wanting their own identity and not taking a name given to them by the slave masters. Slavery has long been dead, but racism is alive and well, they still want to distance themselves from the image of being a Toby when that's not who they are. I knew a Latressa growing up, I asked her about her name and if she ever wished her mom had named her something like Susan or Stephanie. She said no because she would never get treated the same as a Susan would. I knew 2 Koreans I knew growing up were born here and named "In" and "Jun" so it's not just black people who chose un American sounding names for their children. For the record I probably know an equal number of people from all races with American sounding names and ones that stick out like a sore thumb. There are plenty of black people in America with unsuspecting names like Nicole & Jim.
Originally posted by: n yusef
Do you consider it at all ridiculous that you're blaming the victims of discrimination (and their parents), rather than the discriminators? It's akin to saying the victims of a gay-bashing had it coming. If they hadn't been born gay, it wouldn't have happened. No one deserves discrimination, whether you approve of their naming choices or not.
Your point about indulging a heritage that isn't yours isn't accurate either. Names like Laquisha were recently invented by Black Americans. They are representative of Black American culture.
Names are integral to cultural identity, and as a Jew, I feel sorry for anyone who feels the need to change their name to attain professional success. Every time I see Lauren instead of Lifshitz, it hurts a little. That Asian immigrants' are so eager to name their children James makes me a sad.
