Would this help pc performance a lot ?

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I have a old 7200 rpm hard drive that is about 10 gigs I believe. Though its not the newest 7200 rpm hard drive and of course you can tell that because when 10 gig 7200 rpm hard drives were around they were not really that quick like today.

Should I use this for my os and my newer 200 gig maxtor hard drive for data and games?

I would install programs on the 10 gig older 7200 rpm hard drive as well but not games, sense there a lot larger than programs. Will it not be worth using this older hard drive because it will just make the os and programs a lot slower sense its a old 7200 rpm hard drive and to just use this hard drive for backup like hard drive images ? Then just split the maxtor 200 gig into partitions?

If none of these ideas are good please suggestion to me a better idea ? Thanks. I may buy another hard drive soon but not sure yet. Not sure if its worth it.
 

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How much cache does the 10 GB drive have?

If it were me personally, I would probably migrate entirely to the newer, larger drive because it is less hassle to have everything on one drive.
 

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Originally posted by: Aluvus
How much cache does the 10 GB drive have?

If it were me personally, I would probably migrate entirely to the newer, larger drive because it is less hassle to have everything on one drive.

Whats the best bang for the buck current hard drives ? Is it worth getting a raptor just for os, applications, and games and a 7200 ide hard drive for all my data?
 

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The raptors are typically not worth it - expensive, loud, hot, and only marginally faster than the competition. Plus they're minuscule.
I would put pretty much everything on the 200 gig drive because it's faster, and then just use the 10 gig drive as a thrash can for stuff you don't know if you want to keep and/or stuff you almost never use. Or perhaps you could install linux on it, just for the heck of it.
 

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Originally posted by: Nathelion
The raptors are typically not worth it - expensive, loud, hot, and only marginally faster than the competition. Plus they're minuscule.
I would put pretty much everything on the 200 gig drive because it's faster, and then just use the 10 gig drive as a thrash can for stuff you don't know if you want to keep and/or stuff you almost never use. Or perhaps you could install linux on it, just for the heck of it.


yea they are expensive, small and loud. Heat wise my 2 raptors run a few degrees lower than other drives i have.
Raptors are good for OS drive, working with lots small files (eg windows :p) they are a lot faster.

If you can afford one for OS as well as another drive for just storage its a nice boost in performance, otherwise just one large drive will do fine.

I would just use 200 gig drive for everything. Create 2 partitions one for OS one for storage, and then use the 10gig drive just for temp unimportant (the drive is old) files, current downloads etc
 

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Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
Originally posted by: Nathelion
The raptors are typically not worth it - expensive, loud, hot, and only marginally faster than the competition. Plus they're minuscule.
I would put pretty much everything on the 200 gig drive because it's faster, and then just use the 10 gig drive as a thrash can for stuff you don't know if you want to keep and/or stuff you almost never use. Or perhaps you could install linux on it, just for the heck of it.


yea they are expensive, small and loud. Heat wise my 2 raptors run a few degrees lower than other drives i have.
Raptors are good for OS drive, working with lots small files (eg windows :p) they are a lot faster.

If you can afford one for OS as well as another drive for just storage its a nice boost in performance, otherwise just one large drive will do fine.

I would just use 200 gig drive for everything. Create 2 partitions one for OS one for storage, and then use the 10gig drive just for temp unimportant (the drive is old) files, current downloads etc

So if having two raptor hard drives. One for the OS, Games, and applications, then another for just data is the best way to go if I ever get raptor hard drives?

Do you know if raid 0 for SATA 3.0 7200 rpm hard drives would be just as fast as two raptor hard drives like I said above but would give you a whole lot more space?

If not then I guess one could always buy four to eight 150 gig raptors to get a lot of space for all that speed!
 

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
Originally posted by: Nathelion
The raptors are typically not worth it - expensive, loud, hot, and only marginally faster than the competition. Plus they're minuscule.
I would put pretty much everything on the 200 gig drive because it's faster, and then just use the 10 gig drive as a thrash can for stuff you don't know if you want to keep and/or stuff you almost never use. Or perhaps you could install linux on it, just for the heck of it.


yea they are expensive, small and loud. Heat wise my 2 raptors run a few degrees lower than other drives i have.
Raptors are good for OS drive, working with lots small files (eg windows :p) they are a lot faster.

If you can afford one for OS as well as another drive for just storage its a nice boost in performance, otherwise just one large drive will do fine.

I would just use 200 gig drive for everything. Create 2 partitions one for OS one for storage, and then use the 10gig drive just for temp unimportant (the drive is old) files, current downloads etc

So if having two raptor hard drives. One for the OS, Games, and applications, then another for just data is the best way to go if I ever get raptor hard drives?

Do you know if raid 0 for SATA 3.0 7200 rpm hard drives would be just as fast as two raptor hard drives like I said above but would give you a whole lot more space?

If not then I guess one could always buy four to eight 150 gig raptors to get a lot of space for all that speed!


I meant having the raptor for the OS and another larger 7200 rpm drive for storage. It is true that raptors don't give much advantage over 7200rpm drive in games or when working with large files (u might save a few seconds loading time), but when it comes for OS drive they are much better, mostly due to the fact that they have very short seek times which makes them ideal (windows and general programs are a ton of small files)

For example in my setup I have a 74gig raptor for OS, and then the fastest 7200 rpm drive i have a 320gig Seagate one... all my games are installed on the Seagate drive, then i have more slower 7200rpm drives just there for storage, videos, music etc.

Buying raptors for storage is pointless, its just way too expensive and you get no advantage from it, i would only recommend getting a 36gig or 74 gig one for boot drive.

Raid 0 would be fast but you still get the slower seek times. Raid 0 is very nice when you have to do video editing with huge files.

EDIT: it also comes down to who's using it, for me i notice a difference and i like my comp to be really responsive, for others it doesn't matter as much.
 

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Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
Originally posted by: Nathelion
The raptors are typically not worth it - expensive, loud, hot, and only marginally faster than the competition. Plus they're minuscule.
I would put pretty much everything on the 200 gig drive because it's faster, and then just use the 10 gig drive as a thrash can for stuff you don't know if you want to keep and/or stuff you almost never use. Or perhaps you could install linux on it, just for the heck of it.


yea they are expensive, small and loud. Heat wise my 2 raptors run a few degrees lower than other drives i have.
Raptors are good for OS drive, working with lots small files (eg windows :p) they are a lot faster.

If you can afford one for OS as well as another drive for just storage its a nice boost in performance, otherwise just one large drive will do fine.

I would just use 200 gig drive for everything. Create 2 partitions one for OS one for storage, and then use the 10gig drive just for temp unimportant (the drive is old) files, current downloads etc

So if having two raptor hard drives. One for the OS, Games, and applications, then another for just data is the best way to go if I ever get raptor hard drives?

Do you know if raid 0 for SATA 3.0 7200 rpm hard drives would be just as fast as two raptor hard drives like I said above but would give you a whole lot more space?

If not then I guess one could always buy four to eight 150 gig raptors to get a lot of space for all that speed!


I meant having the raptor for the OS and another larger 7200 rpm drive for storage. It is true that raptors don't give much advantage over 7200rpm drive in games or when working with large files (u might save a few seconds loading time), but when it comes for OS drive they are much better, mostly due to the fact that they have very short seek times which makes them ideal (windows and general programs are a ton of small files)

For example in my setup I have a 74gig raptor for OS, and then the fastest 7200 rpm drive i have a 320gig Seagate one... all my games are installed on the Seagate drive, then i have more slower 7200rpm drives just there for storage, videos, music etc.

Buying raptors for storage is pointless, its just way too expensive and you get no advantage from it, i would only recommend getting a 36gig or 74 gig one for boot drive.

Raid 0 would be fast but you still get the slower seek times. Raid 0 is very nice when you have to do video editing with huge files.

EDIT: it also comes down to who's using it, for me i notice a difference and i like my comp to be really responsive, for others it doesn't matter as much.

Great idea!

What about getting the WD Raptor 150 gig that way instead of just using it to install windows and programs you can install windows, programs, and games on it! It should help games a lot as well or enough to be worth it right ? It may add up all those seconds. It seems to for windows and applications so why not games ?
 

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Just to let you know I think it would be worth it if we could all get Raptors for everything! Data, windows, applications, games, and backup. To me its worth it because I hate waiting for stuff and a slow response. I also like to run more than one thing at a time and Raptors I hear can do that well. Of course not as well as SCSI hard drives though. I sometimes wish I could go 15,000 rpm SCSI or solid state hard drives.
 

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If you've already loaded OS/apps on the 200gb and are using it, a quick and cheap speed upgrade would be to install the 10gb on a separate channel, partition to 5gb/5gb, set the first partition to virtual memory and the second to scratch disk for photoshop or any other app that might use one.

If you want to spend the money on a new drive, sure, raptor's the way to go, I just got one and there's a slight but noticeable improvement in speed. For local stores, Best Buy's got the 150gb Raptor X on sale for around $200, Fry's normally has the 74gb for around $140. You can probably find them both cheaper online.

-z
 

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Originally posted by: zagood
If you've already loaded OS/apps on the 200gb and are using it, a quick and cheap speed upgrade would be to install the 10gb on a separate channel, partition to 5gb/5gb, set the first partition to virtual memory and the second to scratch disk for photoshop or any other app that might use one.

If you want to spend the money on a new drive, sure, raptor's the way to go, I just got one and there's a slight but noticeable improvement in speed. For local stores, Best Buy's got the 150gb Raptor X on sale for around $200, Fry's normally has the 74gb for around $140. You can probably find them both cheaper online.

-z

The Raptor is enough faster to be worth while ?

I think I may get two 150 gig Raptors one for windows, applications, and game installations and one for just data. Then a 32 gig raptor for backup of important stuff.
 

F1shF4t

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: zagood
If you've already loaded OS/apps on the 200gb and are using it, a quick and cheap speed upgrade would be to install the 10gb on a separate channel, partition to 5gb/5gb, set the first partition to virtual memory and the second to scratch disk for photoshop or any other app that might use one.

If you want to spend the money on a new drive, sure, raptor's the way to go, I just got one and there's a slight but noticeable improvement in speed. For local stores, Best Buy's got the 150gb Raptor X on sale for around $200, Fry's normally has the 74gb for around $140. You can probably find them both cheaper online.

-z

The Raptor is enough faster to be worth while ?

I think I may get two 150 gig Raptors one for windows, applications, and game installations and one for just data. Then a 32 gig raptor for backup of important stuff.


Just for data a larger drive would work just as well and you get lots more space. You can use a raptor for that no probs and it will be faster, just i don't know if it the same in your case, but i need a lot more than 150 gig of space :p.
Just comes down to if they meet your needs and budget.
 

ch33zw1z

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I'd spend less money on Raptor, unless you plan on installing every game possible...get a 74GB 16MB, and get the largest 7200(.10) drive you can with the rest of your cash.
 

Nathelion

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Raptors only give a negligible advantage over the faster 7200 rpm SATA drives. Maybe for OS:s they're good, but in games and applications etc, the difference is minimal. Just look through any recent anandtech hard drive review.