Would this be the best monitor for gaming?

Crescent13

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would that be the best gaming monitor, or would a IBM be better? I'm not considering price or graphic power as issues for now. I just want to know what is the best monitor for gaming is.
 

Excelsior

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It certainly isnt a $4000 CRT.

You can get a kickass gaming crt for less than $500.

You will have many people tell you that LCDs are now better than CRTs, and that they would never go back to them. IMO, even after using an LCD for quite some time now, I believe that the ideal setup would be to have one LCD, one CRT. Id use the CRT for movies and gaming, and LCD for everything else.

 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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My realistic display of choice would be a really nice 22" or larger CRT (not a $4500 one though).

My totally unrealistic price/graphics power doesn't matter would be an incredibly expensive 3 chip DLP or CRT projector.
 
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i agree with Excelsior. there is no way in hell that thing is wirth 4G

but also, i would recommend the dell 2405 over a CRT
 

CP5670

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That monitor is a waste of money. It's very similar to the Diamond Pro 2070SB (an excellent monitor; I have one), which retails for around $700 new, although they are very difficult to find now except on ebay. I think this $4000 UWG version is almost identical except color calibrated out of the factory to tighter specifications.

High end CRTs are still generally a better choice for games.
 

kylebisme

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Four grand would be a deal for that monitor, the cheapest they come is the 4.5 that is listed at. But no, there is no point in getting anything like that unless you plan to do heart surgery with it or something.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Four grand would be a deal for that monitor, the cheapest they come is the 4.5 that is listed at. But no, there is no point in getting anything like that unless you plan to do heart surgery with it or something.

QFT

Just wondering why a 22" AG costs $3500 more than a top-end 21"?

And actually I'd rather use an S-PVA (vibrant color, deep black, good viewing angle) LCD for movies. I think the CRT's bulkiness would distract me, especially if I'm sitting back a little. :p I just like the image, detail, and clarity of said LCDs versus their CRT counterparts. The only thing that may irk me is response time, but hopefully it's not too bad. Put it this way: I'd much rather have an LCD in my theater room than a CRT. Actually I'd rather have a DLP or projector, but that's besides the point...

Let me know if I'm wrong, but a PVA panel's crystals(?) start out as black so the chemical that blocks light on TN LCDs isn't used here, so the black is just as deep as a CRT's.

Back on topic though, a CRT is still better in most aspects for gaming. If you're willing to spend that much though, you might as well get some small DLP (3-chip?) TV. 35 trillion colors for the win? Or, remember that 72" LCD Samsung showed the other month? :p
 

CP5670

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I think it's for Photoshop pros. I doubt you would be able to tell the difference between this and the 2070 except maybe in graphics editing. The MSRP on them is actually $5000, so I guess $4500 can be considered cheap. :D

But yeah, if you're going to spend that much, a projector is a better option.
 

Crescent13

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I dunno about a projector, do projectors have resolutions of 2k x 1.5k? I would think about a projector if they had higher resolutions. I have a samsung 730B, and a CRT made me nausious (literally, I felt like I was going to throw up) when trying to read small text at a resolution of 1600x1200 with a refresh rate of 75hz (it's a 17"crt, 16" viewable). I would much rather have my 730B for text, but for games, the crt looked much nicer. better response time and the biggest difference was contrast. I wasn't too happy with the vibrancy of the colors in the CRT but that could have been because i'm used to the magicolor on my samsung. what about this? It has DVI interface so would that clear up the clarity?
 

kylebisme

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That DVI in just uses the anolog part of the DVI-i cable so it is no different than a VGA signal.
 

CP5670

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I don't think DVI makes any difference on CRTs; you just want tight focus and convergence and high refresh rates. Although text at 1600x1200 is probably going to look too small on 17" monitor anyway. The shadow mask CRTs have relatively dull colors so you might have been using one of those, but I think the AG CRTs monitors look quite different, with LCD-like bright and vibrant light colors but still having great contrast and dark colors.

Projectors generally don't have the same resolutions, you're right. Well, I guess there is one JVC projector that does 2048x1536 natively, but it costs as much as a small house, like $225k or something.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
I dunno about a projector, do projectors have resolutions of 2k x 1.5k? I would think about a projector if they had higher resolutions. I have a samsung 730B, and a CRT made me nausious (literally, I felt like I was going to throw up) when trying to read small text at a resolution of 1600x1200 with a refresh rate of 75hz (it's a 17"crt, 16" viewable). I would much rather have my 730B for text, but for games, the crt looked much nicer. better response time and the biggest difference was contrast. I wasn't too happy with the vibrancy of the colors in the CRT but that could have been because i'm used to the magicolor on my samsung. what about this? It has DVI interface so would that clear up the clarity?

Random projector with 2048x1536 resolution

http://www.projectorcentral.com/JVC-DLA-QX1G.htm

EDIT: whoops, CP5670 beat me to it
 

biostud

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Four grand would be a deal for that monitor, the cheapest they come is the 4.5 that is listed at. But no, there is no point in getting anything like that unless you plan to do heart surgery with it or something.

Just got a weird picture in my head seeing a surgeon trying to operate with this monitor instead pf his usual tools. :confused: ;)
 

BenSkywalker

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The monitor you linked to is a 2070/2141 with the SpectraView color calibration hardware. If you utilize that, you are forced into sRGB mode which negates the ability to run in SuperBright mode(which you will almost certainly want to do for games and movies). That is made for print and photo professionals, it actually pretty much sucks for gaming(you can shut it off, but then you just paid ~$4K too much for the monitor :p ).

The best gaming monitor you can buy is either the Mitsubishi 2070SB or NEC 2141SB-BK if you can find one(they are identical monitors). They retail for around $700 give or take.
 

Sunrise089

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
The monitor you linked to is a 2070/2141 with the SpectraView color calibration hardware. If you utilize that, you are forced into sRGB mode which negates the ability to run in SuperBright mode(which you will almost certainly want to do for games and movies). That is made for print and photo professionals, it actually pretty much sucks for gaming(you can shut it off, but then you just paid ~$4K too much for the monitor :p ).

The best gaming monitor you can buy is either the Mitsubishi 2070SB or NEC 2141SB-BK if you can find one(they are identical monitors). They retail for around $700 give or take.

What makes those much more expensive monitors superior to the Sony FW900 24" display that people are getting for under $400?
 

Cheesetogo

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Get the Sony FW-900 on ebay! 1920x1200 @ 85 hz on a 22.5 inch screen doesn't get much better for gaming.
 

CP5670

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Looks like a resurrected thread...

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
The monitor you linked to is a 2070/2141 with the SpectraView color calibration hardware. If you utilize that, you are forced into sRGB mode which negates the ability to run in SuperBright mode(which you will almost certainly want to do for games and movies). That is made for print and photo professionals, it actually pretty much sucks for gaming(you can shut it off, but then you just paid ~$4K too much for the monitor :p ).

The best gaming monitor you can buy is either the Mitsubishi 2070SB or NEC 2141SB-BK if you can find one(they are identical monitors). They retail for around $700 give or take.

I think those Spectraview versions are actually called 2070SB-SV and 2141SB-SV and cost about $1200. I'm not really even sure what this UWG thing is or why it's so special. On the face of it, it seems to have identical specs to the normal 2070/2141 SV versions, although the cabinet looks a little different. I'm guessing that it's just balanced and adjusted to higher quality standards than the normal ones.

Anyone want to buy one and find out for the rest of us? :D

What makes those much more expensive monitors superior to the Sony FW900 24" display that people are getting for under $400?

That's their MSRP; you can get them for a lot less used (actually you can't buy new ones at all anymore), although not as low as some of those excellent FW900 deals.
 

SonicIce

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Wait... how does this compare to the Diamond Pro 2070SB?
edit: nevermind i read the thread :p
edit2: :Q im a poet and i didn't know it
 

tuteja1986

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just get a Diamond Pro 2070SB. Its one the best gaming monitor out. Anyways i have one and enjoy my games to fullest of it.
 

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
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would that be the best gaming monitor, or would a IBM be better? I'm not considering price or graphic power as issues for now. I just want to know what is the best monitor for gaming is.

You need to spend $3500 of that $4500 on your computer, and the last $1000 on a monitor.

I'm sure that one is nice, but the rig you have listed doesn't need that monitor.

Edited for ignorance: Listen to Ben, his advice is good. I didn't know that one didn't have the SuperBright, which I like a lot.
 

SonicIce

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(shhh, dont tell anyone but there just might be a couple brand new 2070's on frogle maybe)
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
It certainly isnt a $4000 CRT.

You can get a kickass gaming crt for less than $500.

You will have many people tell you that LCDs are now better than CRTs, and that they would never go back to them. IMO, even after using an LCD for quite some time now, I believe that the ideal setup would be to have one LCD, one CRT. Id use the CRT for movies and gaming, and LCD for everything else.
I agree 100%. I wish my desk had space for a CRT. :(