Would the world benefit if we combined all countries

[Andrew1990]

I was just wondering what the benefits and disadvantages were to this idea I had.


The idea is to combine all countries on this planet into 3 or 4 large countries. For example, the entire American continent would most likely be one of these countries. Another one may be the Asian countries and then the Europeans and Middle East.

Would this help strengthen everyone or is this just a stupid idea? I understand that some groups of people would rather not form into some other groups of people(French and British ring a bell) but overall it should increase ease of governmental burden for each super nation, correct?

 

[IronWing]

No. It is mostly the consensus attitude toward personal responsibility, social and civic responsibility, and expectations of what a government aught to be within a population that determine the burden and effectiveness of government, not population size.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Sure. Make them Christian, Jew, Muslim, and Athiest countries and we will all get along just fine.

 

[bobsmith1492]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Sure. Make them Christian, Jew, Muslim, and Athiest countries and we will all get along just fine.

Buddhists

 

[Craig234]

Seems very likely to me this will happen, in some form - it may be an EU-like consolidation.

One main question is, how will the new entities be set up in terms of 'people's rights'?

This is no longer a few guys who get together in secret and draft something that suits their whims, unfortunately, the example of China is pretty relevant in what can happen.

 

[sandorski]

Not "Countries", but some new Institution that is above "Country". It's the more Evolutionary thing. First you had Family, then Tribe, the Cities, then Counties, then Nations, Then Nation Alliances, etc.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Seems very likely to me this will happen, in some form - it may be an EU-like consolidation.

One main question is, how will the new entities be set up in terms of 'people's rights'?

This is no longer a few guys who get together in secret and draft something that suits their whims, unfortunately, the example of China is pretty relevant in what can happen.

This will never happen ever ever ever in Europe....

Truth be told nobody trusts each other and nobody has yet forgotten ww1 or ww2.....
sure you may see these countries having photo ops and supposedly communicating but the truth is.......nobody will ever trust the Germans.
In fact one thing you will often hear from people is that what the Germans`s could not do in ww2 they are trying to do through the EU....
There are many countries....that just do not trust the Germans!!
Sorry that`s the truth.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Never happen now that man knows that all resources are finite, for one thing. Second biggest thing would be a world wide cultural shift from "what's in it for me" to "how will this benefit us all".

I hope the internet will someday be the vehicle to bring about the second thing, I see no cure for the first as resources generate power and wealth and always come to be viewed as mine, not ours.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Never happen now that man knows that all resources are finite, for one thing. Second biggest thing would be a world wide cultural shift from "what's in it for me" to "how will this benefit us all".

I hope the internet will someday be the vehicle to bring about the second thing, I see no cure for the first as resources generate power and wealth and always come to be viewed as mine, not ours.

We really need to be pushing Space Programs. There's much more Resources floating in Space and sitting on neighbouring Moons/Planets than there is here.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Craig234
Seems very likely to me this will happen, in some form - it may be an EU-like consolidation.

One main question is, how will the new entities be set up in terms of 'people's rights'?

This is no longer a few guys who get together in secret and draft something that suits their whims, unfortunately, the example of China is pretty relevant in what can happen.

This will never happen ever ever ever in Europe....

Truth be told nobody trusts each other and nobody has yet forgotten ww1 or ww2.....
sure you may see these countries having photo ops and supposedly communicating but the truth is.......nobody will ever trust the Germans.
In fact one thing you will often hear from people is that what the Germans`s could not do in ww2 they are trying to do through the EU....
There are many countries....that just do not trust the Germans!!
Sorry that`s the truth.

As a European, I have to point out that you are talking absolute nonsense.

 

[Munky]

I'm strongly opposed to such a move, but the world seems to be headed in that direction anyways. First it starts with economic treaties, then political/military unification, and before you know it a small group of international bureaucrats is making decisions for for the entire world. Each consolidation of power effectively gives less power to the individual people of involved countries. Do I want my legal rights, obligations, and economic opportunities dictated by a world government at the top of the pyramid? Hell no!

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: munky
I'm strongly opposed to such a move, but the world seems to be headed in that direction anyways. First it starts with economic treaties, then political/military unification, and before you know it a small group of international bureaucrats is making decisions for for the entire world. Each consolidation of power effectively gives less power to the individual people of involved countries. Do I want my legal rights, obligations, and economic opportunities dictated by a world government at the top of the pyramid? Hell no!

Don't the bankers aready make decisions for the entire world?

 

[Siddhartha]

The Europeans and England created* Iraq and Israel and look how much trouble that caused.

*I could be wrong but aren't India, and a number of Africans countries also examples of this?

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
The Europeans and England created* Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Israel and look how much trouble that caused.

*I could be wrong but aren't India, and a number of Africans countries also examples of this?

They also created the U.S. and look how much trouble that caused.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
The Europeans and England created* Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Israel and look how much trouble that caused.

*I could be wrong but aren't India, and a number of Africans countries also examples of this?

They also created the U.S. and look how much trouble that caused.

I was talking to a native American woman over drinks once. She would agree would you.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Craig234
Seems very likely to me this will happen, in some form - it may be an EU-like consolidation.

One main question is, how will the new entities be set up in terms of 'people's rights'?

This is no longer a few guys who get together in secret and draft something that suits their whims, unfortunately, the example of China is pretty relevant in what can happen.

This will never happen ever ever ever in Europe....

Truth be told nobody trusts each other and nobody has yet forgotten ww1 or ww2.....
sure you may see these countries having photo ops and supposedly communicating but the truth is.......nobody will ever trust the Germans.
In fact one thing you will often hear from people is that what the Germans`s could not do in ww2 they are trying to do through the EU....
There are many countries....that just do not trust the Germans!!
Sorry that`s the truth.

As a European, I have to point out that you are talking absolute nonsense.

As a European myself born in Poland I have to say-- I know very well what I am talking about!!
You would be suprised what is said about the German`s in very high places.
You would also be suprised the feelings concerning ww2 that are being dealt with even among such nations as France!!

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Sure. Make them Christian, Jew, Muslim, and Athiest countries and we will all get along just fine.

Nice!

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Craig234
Seems very likely to me this will happen, in some form - it may be an EU-like consolidation.

One main question is, how will the new entities be set up in terms of 'people's rights'?

This is no longer a few guys who get together in secret and draft something that suits their whims, unfortunately, the example of China is pretty relevant in what can happen.

This will never happen ever ever ever in Europe....

Truth be told nobody trusts each other and nobody has yet forgotten ww1 or ww2.....
sure you may see these countries having photo ops and supposedly communicating but the truth is.......nobody will ever trust the Germans.
In fact one thing you will often hear from people is that what the Germans`s could not do in ww2 they are trying to do through the EU....
There are many countries....that just do not trust the Germans!!
Sorry that`s the truth.

As a European, I have to point out that you are talking absolute nonsense.

As a European myself born in Poland I have to say-- I know very well what I am talking about!!
You would be suprised what is said about the German`s in very high places.
You would also be suprised the feelings concerning ww2 that are being dealt with even among such nations as France!!

You, thankfully, do not speak for all Europeans. I don't know about "very high places", but little of what you say would surprise me. You consistently show yourself to be a complete ass.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Craig234
Seems very likely to me this will happen, in some form - it may be an EU-like consolidation.

One main question is, how will the new entities be set up in terms of 'people's rights'?

This is no longer a few guys who get together in secret and draft something that suits their whims, unfortunately, the example of China is pretty relevant in what can happen.

This will never happen ever ever ever in Europe....

Truth be told nobody trusts each other and nobody has yet forgotten ww1 or ww2.....
sure you may see these countries having photo ops and supposedly communicating but the truth is.......nobody will ever trust the Germans.
In fact one thing you will often hear from people is that what the Germans`s could not do in ww2 they are trying to do through the EU....
There are many countries....that just do not trust the Germans!!
Sorry that`s the truth.

As a European, I have to point out that you are talking absolute nonsense.

As a European myself born in Poland I have to say-- I know very well what I am talking about!!
You would be suprised what is said about the German`s in very high places.
You would also be suprised the feelings concerning ww2 that are being dealt with even among such nations as France!!

Where in Poland were you born?

 

[Genx87]

Human nature is too diverse to have such a large governing body.

 

[gingermeggs]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
The Europeans and England created* Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Israel and look how much trouble that caused.

*I could be wrong but aren't India, and a number of Africans countries also examples of this?

There's a ye olde english saying "as successful as Africa"
I can state for a fact your words about jugoslavia are absolute rubbish!

How about we talk about Boze and his Indian nationalists, their allegiance with nazi germany and the japs, and when they did field an army combined with a contingent of japs they got smashed by her majesty's finest!
We lifted you heathens out of the mud!
God' what a mistake!
now get back to your call centre!
blesav pizda!

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: gingermeggs

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
The Europeans and England created* Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Israel and look how much trouble that caused.

*I could be wrong but aren't India, and a number of Africans countries also examples of this?

There's a ye olde english saying "as successful as Africa"
I can state for a fact your words about jugoslavia are absolute rubbish!

How about we talk about Boze and his Indian nationalists, their allegiance with nazi germany and the japs, and when they did field an army combined with a contingent of japs they got smashed by her majesty's finest!
We lifted you heathens out of the mud!
God' what a mistake!
now get back to your call centre!
blesav pizda!

You are a racist idiot, thank you for sharing the thoughts of your bigotted little mind.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Craig234
Seems very likely to me this will happen, in some form - it may be an EU-like consolidation.

One main question is, how will the new entities be set up in terms of 'people's rights'?

This is no longer a few guys who get together in secret and draft something that suits their whims, unfortunately, the example of China is pretty relevant in what can happen.

This will never happen ever ever ever in Europe....

Truth be told nobody trusts each other and nobody has yet forgotten ww1 or ww2.....
sure you may see these countries having photo ops and supposedly communicating but the truth is.......nobody will ever trust the Germans.
In fact one thing you will often hear from people is that what the Germans`s could not do in ww2 they are trying to do through the EU....
There are many countries....that just do not trust the Germans!!
Sorry that`s the truth.

As a European, I have to point out that you are talking absolute nonsense.

Agreed. The 'storyline' of the EU is that a Union will prevent any future occurence of such a bloody war, and it's built on French-German reconciliation

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: bgeh

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Craig234
Seems very likely to me this will happen, in some form - it may be an EU-like consolidation.

One main question is, how will the new entities be set up in terms of 'people's rights'?

This is no longer a few guys who get together in secret and draft something that suits their whims, unfortunately, the example of China is pretty relevant in what can happen.

This will never happen ever ever ever in Europe....

Truth be told nobody trusts each other and nobody has yet forgotten ww1 or ww2.....
sure you may see these countries having photo ops and supposedly communicating but the truth is.......nobody will ever trust the Germans.
In fact one thing you will often hear from people is that what the Germans`s could not do in ww2 they are trying to do through the EU....
There are many countries....that just do not trust the Germans!!
Sorry that`s the truth.

As a European, I have to point out that you are talking absolute nonsense.

Agreed. The 'storyline' of the EU is that a Union will prevent any future occurence of such a bloody war, and it's built on French-German reconciliation

I wouldn't be surprised if there's still some lingering animosity towards Germany in Europe. Especially in Poland, but I think Western Europe moved past all that decades ago.

 

[gingermeggs]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: gingermeggs

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
The Europeans and England created* Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Israel and look how much trouble that caused.

*I could be wrong but aren't India, and a number of Africans countries also examples of this?

There's a ye olde english saying "as successful as Africa"
I can state for a fact your words about jugoslavia are absolute rubbish!

How about we talk about Boze and his Indian nationalists, their allegiance with nazi germany and the japs, and when they did field an army combined with a contingent of japs they got smashed by her majesty's finest!
We lifted you heathens out of the mud!
God' what a mistake!
now get back to your call centre!
blesav pizda!

You are a racist idiot, thank you for sharing the thoughts of your bigotted little mind.

Sure I'm a bigot, just like everybody else!
Get back to me when you learn to spell bigoted, Mick.
By the way, hows the job hunting going?
Maybe we could change that saying to something more contemporary?
like- as successful as the Irish economy!
The Irish republicans were also Nazi sympathizers, a fair number of them in the Wehrmacht.
I think ww2 demonstrates that there will never be even partial world unity, not until its a last resort or the last man standing.