Would the President of Iran say Osama was a good muslim or a bad muslim

Polish3d

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Well here we agree, although Bin Laden, while adopting a healthy degree of that good-old anti-semitism so prevalent there, seems to be less focused on Israel than other extremists.
 

jpeyton

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Another Troll Thread by Dahunan. What a big surprise :roll:

Yes, let's all attempt to predict the thoughts of Iran's President from the comfort of our parent's basement.

Let this one drop guys. Unless you want to remind this forum of Dahunan's pathetic new low.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Another Troll Thread by Dahunan. What a big surprise :roll:

Yes, let's all attempt to predict the thoughts of Iran's President from the comfort of our parent's basement.

Let this one drop guys. Unless you want to remind this forum of Dahunan's pathetic new low.

Poor Poor ... Can't handle the truth?.. :(
 

compuwiz1

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Looks like another supporter of Iran's barbaric government has joined the thread. Of course the Iranian president would support OBL. Their mentality aligns well together.

Be careful of what you say in these threads people. The terrorists might actually be communcating thru us. Bwahahahah. ;)
 

Aimster

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Iran's govt. does not support Osama Bin Ladin who was part of the Taliban regime.

Iran's regime is not linked to Al Qaeda. Two different sects of Islam. Al Qaeda is mainly Pakistani/Sauid Arabian. Sect of Whabbism.

Iran was the one who was arming the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan before the U.S stepped in.

The only nation around Afghanistan who supported the Taliban who harbored Al Qaeda was Pakistan.

It is not in Iran's best interest to support Osama Bin Laudin or his group.

Look into the politics in the regime. Iran is an Islamic state that is not on great terms with any of the Arab nations except for possibly Syria.

Iran is linked to Syria only because of their hate for Israel. Other than that they share no common interest.

- I didn't read your title carefully. The President of Iran is an idiot who probably thinks Hitler was a God. But like every other Iranian President, he has no power. He is just a puppet for whoever.


 

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Well here we agree, although Bin Laden, while adopting a healthy degree of that good-old anti-semitism so prevalent there, seems to be less focused on Israel than other extremists.

Are you kidding? He's attacking the U.S. BECAUSE of its support of Israel, among other things. Check out his laundry list sometime. Israel factors heavily.
 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Another Troll Thread by Dahunan. What a big surprise :roll:

Yes, let's all attempt to predict the thoughts of Iran's President from the comfort of our parent's basement.

Let this one drop guys. Unless you want to remind this forum of Dahunan's pathetic new low.

Huh. It seems like a relevant question to me. Iran's president has come out on record as wanting to "wipe Israel from the World map". It seems that jibes wuite well with OBLs previous staements on Israel. It stands to reason they're in the same camp.
What's pathetic is your insistent, petulant denial of the facts.
 

Orignal Earl

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According to Wikkipedia, Osama bin Laden was a devout Sunni Muslim
I was just reading up on the Annual Report on International Religious Freedom,
http://www.aina.org/news/20051108162312.htm
Which has listed Iran listed in the "State Hostility Toward Minority or Nonapproved Religions" category
Iran. The Government engaged in particularly severe violations of religious freedom. Members of religious minorities--including Sunni Muslims, Baha'is, Jews, and Christians--reported imprisonment, harassment, intimidation, and discrimination based on their religious beliefs.

Wouldn't that mean that they don't support bin Laden?
 

sandorski

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Common Enemies != support or approval

Saddam and Osama had/have common Enemies, but they also were enemies of each other as well.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran's govt. does not support Osama Bin Ladin who was part of the Taliban regime.

Iran's regime is not linked to Al Qaeda. Two different sects of Islam. Al Qaeda is mainly Pakistani/Sauid Arabian. Sect of Whabbism.

Iran was the one who was arming the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan before the U.S stepped in.

The only nation around Afghanistan who supported the Taliban who harbored Al Qaeda was Pakistan.

It is not in Iran's best interest to support Osama Bin Laudin or his group.

Look into the politics in the regime. Iran is an Islamic state that is not on great terms with any of the Arab nations except for possibly Syria.

Iran is linked to Syria only because of their hate for Israel. Other than that they share no common interest.

- I didn't read your title carefully. The President of Iran is an idiot who probably thinks Hitler was a God. But like every other Iranian President, he has no power. He is just a puppet for whoever.
So Iran doesn't like Jews, Europeans, Indians or other Muslim countries. WHAT AN AWESOME BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
 

Orignal Earl

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
So Iran doesn't like Jews, Europeans, Indians or other Muslim countries. WHAT AN AWESOME BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
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According to the International Religious Freedom report, Saudi Arabia is the only one that has no freedom of religion

Saudi Arabia. Freedom of religion does not exist. Islam is the official religion, and all citizens must be Muslims. Religious freedom is not recognized or protected under the country's laws, and basic religious freedoms are denied to all but those who adhere to the state-sanctioned version of Sunni Islam. The Government's official policy is to permit non-Muslims to practice their religions freely at home and in private; however, the Government does not always respect this right in practice. Citizens are denied the freedom to choose or change their religion. Members of the Shi'a minority are subject to officially sanctioned political and economic discrimination, including limited employment opportunities, little representation in official institutions, and restrictions on the practice of their faith and the building of mosques and community centers. The Government enforces a strictly conservative version of Sunni Islam and discriminates against other branches of Islam. The Government prohibits the public practice of other religions; non-Muslim worshippers risk arrest, imprisonment, lashing, deportation, and torture for engaging in religious activity that attracts official attention, especially of the Mutawwa'in (religious police). All public school children receive mandatory religious instruction that conforms to the Salafi tradition. While there was an improvement in press freedom, open discussion of religious issues was limited.
 

jpeyton

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Are you guys serious? Dahunan ran out of hard news so he strayed into a "predict this" debate over something we know nothing about.

Unless I'm missing something and you guys have the Iranian President on record saying something about Osama? Or maybe you called him up and asked?

Maybe we should make a thread asking if GWB thinks David Berkowitz was a good Christian?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Another Troll Thread by Dahunan. What a big surprise :roll:

Yes, let's all attempt to predict the thoughts of Iran's President from the comfort of our parent's basement.

Let this one drop guys. Unless you want to remind this forum of Dahunan's pathetic new low.

Poor Poor ... Can't handle the truth?.. :(

What truth? Have you presented any fact that would support your opinion one way or the other?
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: Proletariat
So Iran doesn't like Jews, Europeans, Indians or other Muslim countries. WHAT AN AWESOME BUNCH OF PEOPLE.

According to the International Religious Freedom report, Saudi Arabia is the only one that has no freedom of religion

Saudi Arabia. Freedom of religion does not exist. Islam is the official religion, and all citizens must be Muslims. Religious freedom is not recognized or protected under the country's laws, and basic religious freedoms are denied to all but those who adhere to the state-sanctioned version of Sunni Islam. The Government's official policy is to permit non-Muslims to practice their religions freely at home and in private; however, the Government does not always respect this right in practice. Citizens are denied the freedom to choose or change their religion. Members of the Shi'a minority are subject to officially sanctioned political and economic discrimination, including limited employment opportunities, little representation in official institutions, and restrictions on the practice of their faith and the building of mosques and community centers. The Government enforces a strictly conservative version of Sunni Islam and discriminates against other branches of Islam. The Government prohibits the public practice of other religions; non-Muslim worshippers risk arrest, imprisonment, lashing, deportation, and torture for engaging in religious activity that attracts official attention, especially of the Mutawwa'in (religious police). All public school children receive mandatory religious instruction that conforms to the Salafi tradition. While there was an improvement in press freedom, open discussion of religious issues was limited.
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Hah. Please read up on Iran and how many minority religions they have in their country.
 

Orignal Earl

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Hah. Please read up on Iran and how many minority religions they have in their country.[/quote]

Other religions practiced in Iran by Iranians include

* Christianity
* Zoroastrianism
* Judaism
* Mandaeanism
* Bahá'í
* Local religions practiced by tribal minorities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_minorities_in_Iran

I do love learning all this stuff, but I don't understand your point?

 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: dahunan
I think he would consider him to be a good muslim..


True, OBL follows every word of the Islam. OBL's Islam is the true one, the one invented by the media is a PC toned down version of it to hoodwink the Dhimmis (i.e. us)
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran's govt. does not support Osama Bin Ladin who was part of the Taliban regime.

Iran's regime is not linked to Al Qaeda. Two different sects of Islam. Al Qaeda is mainly Pakistani/Sauid Arabian. Sect of Whabbism.

Iran was the one who was arming the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan before the U.S stepped in.

The only nation around Afghanistan who supported the Taliban who harbored Al Qaeda was Pakistan.

It is not in Iran's best interest to support Osama Bin Laudin or his group.

Look into the politics in the regime. Iran is an Islamic state that is not on great terms with any of the Arab nations except for possibly Syria.

Iran is linked to Syria only because of their hate for Israel. Other than that they share no common interest.

- I didn't read your title carefully. The President of Iran is an idiot who probably thinks Hitler was a God. But like every other Iranian President, he has no power. He is just a puppet for whoever.
So Iran doesn't like Jews, Europeans, Indians or other Muslim countries. WHAT AN AWESOME BUNCH OF PEOPLE.

Agian you talk as if you know what you are talking about

Jews are protected in Iran. They are not killed. Israel is a country. Disliking Israel means you hate Jews now?

Iran hates Indians? Where the hell did that come from? You are a moron if you think Iran and India are on bad terms. Go get a clue. You just want to troll or talk about India 24.7. This is not an Indian forum nor is it an Indian thread.

Iran dislikes Europeans? Amazing. I had no idea and I don't think Iran has any idea either.

Your information is pulled straight out of your ass. It as if I am talking to a child.

Iran hates other Muslim countries because they are not closley connected with Arab nations? You sir lack common sense. I guess the whole world is anti-Muslim now because they do not have strong ties with Muslim countries. Hell I guess Muslim countries are anti Muslim themselves for not having a strong connection with each other.

By the way it sounds as if you hate the people of Iran. That's your problem. You are just a troll. Again I'm not surprised. Your level of education is minimal and you like to brag about what you have and who you are on the Internet meaning you like to make up your life to prove to me that you are something/someone important. Yawn.
 

Braznor

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So you mean to say Jews are loved in Iran???? so the Iranian president's comments that Israel needs to be wiped out were just statements of Islam-Judaism brotherhood misreported by the muslim-hating media????

Genocide is wrong by any means, the likes of you conveniently hate Jews by claiming you hate Israel.

Proletariat can talk about whatever he wants as long as he likes, you are nobody to dictate terms, especially if they are not to your liking.

And we do not hate the people of Islam, just their government run by mullahs (and covertly supported by the likes of you) who also plans to start the next World War by irresponsible statements.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Braznor
So you mean to say Jews are loved in Iran???? so the Iranian president's comments that Israel needs to be wiped out were just statements of Islam-Judaism brotherhood misreported by the muslim-hating media????

Genocide is wrong by any means, the likes of you conveniently hate Jews by claiming you hate Israel.

Proletariat can talk about whatever he wants as long as he likes, you are nobody to dictate terms, especially if they are not to your liking.

And we do not hate the people of Islam, just their government run by mullahs (and covertly supported by the likes of you) who also plans to start the next World War by irresponsible statements.

Iranian law protects Jews. What part of that do you not understand? It also protects Christians and other religions.

I don't care what the President of Iran said. He is nobody. He has no power. He cannot do anything. He is just a puppet to show Iran has free elections when they do not.

Who are you his bitch? I didn't know Proletariat had a bitch on here. Congrats.

Jews are as much loved in Iran as Muslims are loved in the U.S.


 

raildogg

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Iran is protecting Bin Laden's son and other family members, so I think we know what the answer is. In fact, Iran is harboring many al-qaeda and Taliban. The Iranian religious leaders think violence against infidels is ok, so I am assuming they believe Osama is doing the right thing.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Iran is protecting Bin Laden's son and other family members, so I think we know what the answer is. In fact, Iran is harboring many al-qaeda and Taliban. The Iranian religious leaders think violence against infidels is ok, so I am assuming they believe Osama is doing the right thing.

Iran is not harboring anyone. They arrested members of Al Qaeda. That isn't harboring.

Show me proof from a credible source that says Iran is harboring members of Al Qaeda. Members of Osama's family live in Saudi Arabia. Does that mean they are all part of Al Qaeda and Saudi Arabia is harboring them?

Iran and Al Qaeda have no connections. It is common sense they do not have any connections. Just like Saddam wanted no part with Al Qaeda.
 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Braznor
So you mean to say Jews are loved in Iran???? so the Iranian president's comments that Israel needs to be wiped out were just statements of Islam-Judaism brotherhood misreported by the muslim-hating media????

Genocide is wrong by any means, the likes of you conveniently hate Jews by claiming you hate Israel.

Proletariat can talk about whatever he wants as long as he likes, you are nobody to dictate terms, especially if they are not to your liking.

And we do not hate the people of Islam, just their government run by mullahs (and covertly supported by the likes of you) who also plans to start the next World War by irresponsible statements.

Iranian law protects Jews. What part of that do you not understand? It also protects Christians and other religions.

I don't care what the President of Iran said. He is nobody. He has no power. He cannot do anything. He is just a puppet to show Iran has free elections when they do not.

Who are you his bitch? I didn't know Proletariat had a bitch on here. Congrats.

Jews are as much loved in Iran as Muslims are loved in the U.S.

So insulting is the standard line you adopt when you do not like what you hear??? your arguements are getting better and better as you are being overrun with reason.

It does not matter whether the president of Iran has power or not. What matters is that the mullahs are running the show in Iran and the president just expressed their deepest desires.

Iranian laws upholding the rights of minorities could well be written on toilet paper, it could have been put to much better use that way. There are over six million mulsims in the U.S., though I do not know the actual number of Jews in the Iran, I do not think they approach the one million mark and also they never tried to hijack a plane and fly into the Grand Mosque of Khomeni unlike what the muslims during 9/11

 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Iran is protecting Bin Laden's son and other family members, so I think we know what the answer is. In fact, Iran is harboring many al-qaeda and Taliban. The Iranian religious leaders think violence against infidels is ok, so I am assuming they believe Osama is doing the right thing.

Iran is not harboring anyone. They arrested members of Al Qaeda. That isn't harboring.

Show me proof from a credible source that says Iran is harboring members of Al Qaeda. Members of Osama's family live in Saudi Arabia. Does that mean they are all part of Al Qaeda and Saudi Arabia is harboring them?

Iran and Al Qaeda have no connections. It is common sense they do not have any connections. Just like Saddam wanted no part with Al Qaeda.


You are right, Iran would most probably not harbour the sunni controlled Al-Qaeda, after all why would they??? Especially when they have homegrown Shia mujaheeden variety???

Besides I do not think Iran is interested in global terrorism right now, they are now concentrated upon terrorising the local neighbourhood i.e Iraq, Israel. Global terrorism can come later once these pesky matters are taken care of. The fight between Shia controlled Iranian terrorists and Sunni Al-Qaeda will come after everyone else is slaughtered.