Would some East Asian countries benefit from some immigration?

kyrax12

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Mostly countries like South Korea and Japan, where apparently they are having some sort of age problem and are pretty homogenous.

However, I want to focus on a more sociology perspective of things. Considering these two countries are pretty ignorant about the outside world, and at some times even have gotten the reputation of being racists. Would immigration help these two countries. Not talking about a massive burst of immigrants flooding the country, but a steady stream.

I would reckon there would be conflicts at first, but then as time goes by people would probably start to become more aware of immigrant culture and then more cooperative. Maybe can create a some sort of melting pot like U.S in a couple of decades.
 
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squarecut1

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Benefit? They desperately need immigrants...these aging, dying societies. But given their culture...hard to see. But eventually they will have to..

America as they say isnt a melting pot but a salad bowl
 

Dari

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That's why they're making robots. Speaking for Japan, it's a very difficult country for an immigrant, even those much higher on the socio-economic ladder. Further down, there are many reports of CHinese workers committing suicide all the time in Japan.
 

Svnla

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It is a fact that Japan population is declining. They have more and more older folks (Japanese folks have the longest lifespan in the world) and less and less younger folks.

I do not know how they will keep it up with the same pattern years later without adverse consequences.
 

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Its like this in other places of the world as well actually. Not sure about the United States but in the EU countries its the same thing.
 

UglyCasanova

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No. Nothing wrong with declining populations.

Exactly, we need MORE of that in the world. It isn't the best thing economically but a declining population would be a benefit to us as a species and the world as a whole in the long run.
 

indy2878

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Exactly, we need MORE of that in the world. It isn't the best thing economically but a declining population would be a benefit to us as a species and the world as a whole in the long run.


I disagree. Like you mentioned a declining population would put a GREAT strain on the economy as nobody will be left to buy your products and nobody around to develop new products. Maybe I'm overly pro life myself, but I think I'll stick to my stance on this. My 2 cents for the thread.....
 

UglyCasanova

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I disagree. Like you mentioned a declining population would put a GREAT strain on the economy as nobody will be left to buy your products and nobody around to develop new products. Maybe I'm overly pro life myself, but I think I'll stick to my stance on this. My 2 cents for the thread.....

And so our economy and well being of our species is some great Ponzi scheme. Either it sucks having populations decline, or it sucks due to overpopulation. At least if theirs fewer of us there is still a habitable planet left.
 

Ruptga

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The status quo is a huge ponzi scheme and always has been. It hasn't been a huge issue in the past because there was always a new frontier to settle, or some rival nation/culture that could be conquered and expanded into, but now that we're running out of frontiers and nations generally get along with their neighbors we are forced to either adapt or revert to less civil habits.

Hey guys I have an idea, how about we take some of humanity's best to the middle of nowhere and build a new civilization from the ground up, or rather from the seafloor up. We'll let everyone else squabble over overfull cities and polluted farmlands while we build our Rapture.
 
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Slew Foot

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Id like to see the ensuing hilarity when a bunch of dark skinned Muslims immigrate to South Korea
 

shortylickens

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Most east Asian countries are hideously racist. I doubt they would accept large numbers of immigrants.
From what I understand the Mongolians still living in China are not treated very well, and they are practically natives.
 

desura

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Exactly, we need MORE of that in the world. It isn't the best thing economically but a declining population would be a benefit to us as a species and the world as a whole in the long run.

it isnt even the worst thing economically, if your measure of economic well-being is per-capita wealth.

Japan has a shrinking population and yet its GDP still rises 1% a year. that means steadily improving std of living per person.
 

norseamd

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The status quo is a huge ponzi scheme and always has been. It hasn't been a huge issue in the past because there was always a new frontier to settle, or some rival nation/culture that could be conquered and expanded into, but now that we're running out of frontiers and nations generally get along with their neighbors we are forced to either adapt or revert to less civil habits. Hey guys I have an idea, how about we take some of humanity's best to the middle of nowhere and build a new civilization from the ground up, or rather from the seafloor up. We'll let everyone else squabble over overfull cities and polluted farmlands while we build our Rapture.

there is a lot to gain from space and the ocean

small area high density cities on the coast of antarctica could also work

support them with vertical agriculture and antarctic fishing