Would now be a good time for Israel to attack Iran

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Question says it all. Both Administrations can feign surprise but stand behind the Israelis. This may be terrible news for Iraq but I can understand Jewish paranoia after the Holocaust.
 

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I guess you're asking would it be cover for Obama to say it was Bushes decision about what to do about it?
 

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They are going to do it at some point. They dont mess around.

As long as they dont involve us, i'm all for it. Iran can not be armed with nukes.
 

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It would never be a good time for them to initiate an attack, at least if they wanted our help. We'd sit on the sidelines if that happened.
 

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Israel couldn't accomplish anything in their recent adventures in Lebanon, so they won't have a chance with Iran unless they use WMDs or call for NATO's help.
 

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Originally posted by: gevorg
Israel couldn't accomplish anything in their recent adventures in Lebanon, so they won't have a chance with Iran unless they use WMDs or call for NATO's help.

Huh? They just took out Syria's reactor, they took out Saddam's. We gave them the specialized F-16s to hit Iran.

However, they want our newest bunker-busters, and we havent supplied them yet. But dont think for one minute that if Iran was about to acquire the bomb, they wouldn't go anyway.
 

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I'll predict right now IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
 

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Why in the hell would Israel attack Iran? You better hope they don't decide to attack Fantasy Land or you're screwed.
 

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I don't have an opinion, but does iran need to be attacked? Are we as sure of bad stuff in iran as we were about wmd's in iraq?
 

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
I don't have an opinion, but does iran need to be attacked? Are we as sure of bad stuff in iran as we were about wmd's in iraq?

Iran/Israel and thier issues are alot different than US/War on terror.
 

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Big mistake right now. America is about to enter a new phase of foreign policy which will take at least a year to become well defined.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I don't have an opinion, but does iran need to be attacked? Are we as sure of bad stuff in iran as we were about wmd's in iraq?

Iran/Israel and thier issues are alot different than US/War on terror.
Wouldn't israel need a reason for provocation? imminent threat?
 

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I think a more realistic question here is: Would now be a good time for Iran to attack Israel?
Obama's support of Israel has been somewhat flip-flop in recent times and I fear Iran may see it as an opportunity to attack with the chance of a half-hearted response from the US. Far-fetched, of course, but you never know with the way some people think in that region.
 

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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Big mistake right now. America is about to enter a new phase of foreign policy which will take at least a year to become well defined.
I tend to agree. The repug saber rattling doesn't seem to have done much good.

When would be a good time? And, more importantly, why?
 

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I don't have an opinion, but does iran need to be attacked? Are we as sure of bad stuff in iran as we were about wmd's in iraq?

Iran/Israel and thier issues are alot different than US/War on terror.
Wouldn't israel need a reason for provocation? imminent threat?

They took out Saddams reactor in the 80s, it later proved to be the right thing to do.

They went on a secret mission earlier this year I believe and killed some NK scientists who were building a reactor in Syria, and noone really complained.


When Iran is arming extremist groups that attack you constantly, and enriching uranium, you have a BIG problem.

Like I said, we've given them the tools to do it. If they want to go ahead and do it, I dont blame them. I just dont want us involved any more than we already are.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Like I said, we've given them the tools to do it. If they want to go ahead and do it, I dont blame them. I just dont want us involved any more than we already are.

Nice chickenhawk armchair quarterbacking. :thumbsdown:
 

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Like I said, we've given them the tools to do it. If they want to go ahead and do it, I dont blame them. I just dont want us involved any more than we already are.

Nice chickenhawk armchair quarterbacking. :thumbsdown:

Another catch phrase? I thought I was a bigot even though I voted NO on prop 8?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Another catch phrase? I thought I was a bigot even though I voted NO on prop 8?

I thought you were, too, until you posted that you didn't. What's your problem?
 

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Another catch phrase? I thought I was a bigot even though I voted NO on prop 8?

I thought you were, too, until you posted that you didn't. What's your problem?

:confused:

You can be for equal rights, but against Wahabbi/Fundamental Islam.

Not everyone falls into A or B thinking.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I don't have an opinion, but does iran need to be attacked? Are we as sure of bad stuff in iran as we were about wmd's in iraq?

Iran/Israel and thier issues are alot different than US/War on terror.
Wouldn't israel need a reason for provocation? imminent threat?

They took out Saddams reactor in the 80s, it later proved to be the right thing to do.

They went on a secret mission earlier this year I believe and killed some NK scientists who were building a reactor in Syria, and noone really complained.


When Iran is arming extremist groups that attack you constantly, and enriching uranium, you have a BIG problem.

Like I said, we've given them the tools to do it. If they want to go ahead and do it, I dont blame them. I just dont want us involved any more than we already are.
By all means, we should destroy their ability to arm groups that might attack us (or anybody else) if we have proof - no hesitation. In fact, it's my uneducated guess that we've been remiss in this for a while.

I guess I'm doubting the public perception created by the current administration. I don't trust them or that it's in the nation's best interests. I think we need a different set of eyes looking at things.

I'm ignoring the israeli aspect of the thread since they are simply the u.s.' surrogate.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: gevorg
Israel couldn't accomplish anything in their recent adventures in Lebanon, so they won't have a chance with Iran unless they use WMDs or call for NATO's help.

Huh? They just took out Syria's reactor, they took out Saddam's. We gave them the specialized F-16s to hit Iran.

However, they want our newest bunker-busters, and we havent supplied them yet. But dont think for one minute that if Iran was about to acquire the bomb, they wouldn't go anyway.

Yeah, if anything I foresee an air strike. Possibly with some of our intelligence, but we wouldn't go on the ground for them unless they were attacked.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31

:confused:

You can be for equal rights, but against Wahabbi/Fundamental Islam.

Not everyone falls into A or B thinking.

Now, I'm totally confused. What does Wahabbi/Fundamental Islam have to do with the logistics, strategy or reasons to condone Israel attacking Iran, right now?

You fail to make sense on any level. :roll:
 
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Originally posted by: gevorg
Israel couldn't accomplish anything in their recent adventures in Lebanon, so they won't have a chance with Iran unless they use WMDs or call for NATO's help.

Uh?

Israel's military efficiency exceeds the vast majority of civilized nations, including the U.S. Considering the fact that Israel is under a 24/7 constant state of threat, I have faith that they'll deliver the necessary response to yield Iran's nuclear ambitions. I'm sure Israel will pursue the U.S's support, but that won't be a deciding factor. Israel answers to nobody but Israel, we can all agree on that.