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Would MSI Lawsuit affect your decision to buy?

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I was wondering how much stock to put in the reports that MSI is being sued for Mainboard flaws.

MSI Sued For MainBoard Flaws

I was leaning towards an MSI Neo for my new computer (whenever it sees the light of day retail) but I wonder if now I should think about a different motherboard. Basically would you now reconsider a purchase of MSI based on the lawsuit?

Thanks in advance for your opinion.
 
I would never buy a MSI mobo, period. In my view, they are inferior, lawsuit or no lawsuit.
 
Originally posted by: corky-g
I would never buy a MSI mobo, period. In my view, they are inferior, lawsuit or no lawsuit.
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Dunno what MSI boards you have been using, but my past experience with MSI boards have been great "if" you are running them at stock timings. Newer boards such as the MSI's Nforce 3 250 board which recently recieved anand's silver medal are just a taste of what they have planned to come to the overclocking enthusiasts.
 
Originally posted by: corky-g
I would never buy a MSI mobo, period. In my view, they are inferior, lawsuit or no lawsuit.
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ther3e is alot of msi refurb and use board for sale on ebay and justdeals.com
there goes to show how unreliable they are! i had 4 refurbs, 2 would not reboot the other 2 end up crashing and not posting after a few month of use!
"MSI has knowingly used capacitors, devices used to regulate the power supply to microchips, that can leak or even explode and cause mainboards to short-circuit"
Its no wonder why they dont last so long! LOL:thumbsdown:
 
from what I am reading, the capacitor problem may extend to asus, gigabyte, ibm, and others. It's not the capacitor, but the formula used for the electrolyte.

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Looks to me like MSI is just getting picked on because they're the little man

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Excellent reading here at spectrum.ieee.org
 
Originally posted by: oldfart
I stopped buying MSI a long time ago. Was burned enough times to learn my lesson.
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Same here,buggy piece of crap.I would buy a ECS motherboard way before I would even touch a MSI board.

Even if I had it for free I would sell it & buy something else,yes I hate them that much.
 
I've never been that excited about MSI boards, but I never really considered them to be the level of PC Chips and ECS.
 
MSI's use of 2-phase power units on current boards takes the cake for me. Trying to regulate A64's with 2-phase power is a joke. I have owned MSI and ECS boards, and the ECS boards used 3-phase power and were more stable.
 
Originally posted by: oldfart
I stopped buying MSI a long time ago. Was burned enough times to learn my lesson.
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yep same here, that and the BIOS options sucked and it was buggy.
 
MSI seems to be hit and miss with a lot of people

I myself have been nothing but happy with their stuff... my last MSI mobo is a K7T Turbo limited edition, still running an Athlon 1.33 cracking SETI daily 24/7... running stable as ever!

I'd definitely consider a K8N Neo... I'd buy it locally incase there are problems, I can just take it back as opposed to buying online and doing the whole shipping deal. of course that's just incase, I don't want to ASK for headaches 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: oldfart
I stopped buying MSI a long time ago. Was burned enough times to learn my lesson.
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Same here,buggy piece of crap.I would buy a ECS motherboard way before I would even touch a MSI board.

Even if I had it for free I would sell it & buy something else,yes I hate them that much.
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i wouldn't go that far dude, i've seen more burst caps on ECS than MSI...
 
I have just never had a good MSI motherboard, but several that were DOA.Maybe they are OK, but I will never get one, and thats before the lawsuit.
 
This lawsuit would not change my mind any... I pretty much wrote MSI off a long time ago.

I've owned three MSI boards, and each of them had some sort of funky issue with it. No complete failures or anything... But annoying enough where I don't see the point of choosing MSI over their competitors.
 
If they were being sued for something meaningful: maybe; but for the capacitor problem: no. Everyone's had that problem, there's no reason to believe MSI did anything wrong.
 
I had MSI's orginal KT266 board fail on me 3 times in a 2 1/2 month period, (the 2 replacments were newer rev.s of the board too) and wrote it off and replaced it w/ a K7S5A thats still running to this day, personaly I'll never touch another MSI motherboard again, esp. after the support issues I had getting them to RMA the 3rd board because the resellar I purchased the board from went out of busniess. MSI makes great Video Cards but in my Exp. the way they treat end users and their reliability issues w/ some models of their boards makes me not even consider them for myself or any builds I do.
 
Looks to me like MSI is just getting picked on because they're the little man
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Uhh, not quite the "little man"...

its not even MSI's fault. IBM also had problems with the faulty caps... so did many other companies.
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Maybe because MSI makes IBM motherboards...

But that's beside the point. MSI is a big player, and they are a supplier to many PC mannufacturers. IBM among them. The IBM top of the line workstations Intellistation MPro and ZPro have MSI motherboards in them. And they are the most solid computers you can find! PERIOD!

Qranted I have heard of the problem, but this is regarding capacitors and has nothing to do with the quality of manufacturing. In fact, only complaints I have heard of MSI products are from overclockers, who are not happy with their overclock or have fried their board...
 
One MSI board didn't like a nice Sparkle PSU. Wouldn't shut down--only reboot (holding the button worked, but Windows wouldn't do it). Enlight PSU it liked. Luckily the guy had no other problems.
K7T Pro2-A, two died within six months. MSI later admitted faulty voltage regulators, but we got nothing, and had to up and get new boards (my father and I).
K7 Master still going strong as a linux desktop.
K7 Pro? (slot-A) going string as a desktop, though occasionally has USB and parallel port wierdness.
K7T Pro2-A rev 2 running the living room PC.

Very hit and miss. Given current prices, I'm staying away from MSI. Asus, Shuttle, Gigabyte, AOpen, Abit, and DFI all have good boards at equally good prices. And now Foxconn, which I may have to try out soon 🙂
 
I will never buy another MSI product. My Neo-FIS2R has been incredibly unstable and it cost me $200 to get it to run properly. I run at stock, btw.

I was experiencing system crashed frequently, so I began running diagnostics on all my hardware. Everything checked out, so at the advice of MSI, I upgraded my PSU. No problem - I wanted to anyway. $105.

Didn't fix the issue. MSI suggested I try one of the limited brands of ram they "guarnatee" operate properly. Bought some Samsung. Again, no dice.

So I began screwing with the board. Finally got the thing to run stable by putting the ram in slots 1+3.

That was just the RAM problem. I still have issues with the SATA controller. Programs crash on me with frequency and I doubt, given that my HD ran perfectly on my XP setup for a week, that it is the HD or the software.

MSI is done in my eyes. This board will hold me until ASUS gets their Nforce 250gb offer on the table.
 
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