Would making your card 10MBPS full duplex kill your internet speed?

GoingUp

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Long story short, I couldn't get a computer to get a DHCP address after reinstalling Win XP Pro and installing all of the drivers. The solution was dropping the card from Auto detect to 10MBPS full duplex. I've tried it at both 100MPBS settings and it won't get an address.

The thing is unbearably slow as I am trying to download windows and office updates right now.

I only thought 10MBPS would matter if I had a faster internet service, which I dont as I am capped at 6MBPS by my ISP.

Any help would be appreciated.

Have onboard nic Intel Pro 100 VE on a machine running Win XP Pro SP3.

Thanks
 

starfireone

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It should in reality not be slower. But it sounds like you are having issues with your NIC.
I suggest these things:
1) Download the latest NIC driver for your Intel Pro 100 VE. Not from MS
2) Put it back to Auto. Disable your Firewall and than do a DHCP
request for your PC/NIC. Do turn your Firewall back on quickly after
your NIC gets its DHCP request completed. If you still can not get
a ip address from your host...try to reset your ISP moden/router.
 

GoingUp

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I have the latest intel drivers installed.

I just tested the computer I'm having problems with against my desktop PC and I get

185K with the intel NIC and
2785K with my computer.

Mine is set at 100 full duplex. The other computer isn't running a ton of processing at the moment, so I'm a bit baffled as to why this is happening.

Edit: BTW I have already reset my router several times.
 

Crusty

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Unless you can set the switch port to the exact same mode you will have problems. Everything should always be set to auto-negotiate. If the link has problems with auto-negotiating then you should check all the cables to make sure they are not damaged and replace them with factory made cables if they aren't in good shape, try a different switch port, or replace the NIC.
 

spidey07

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You have a duplex mismatch. The switch is operating in 10/half. Set it to 10/half and you will see better results. The reason why auto didn't work is you have bad cables.

When you hard set speed/duplex you no longer are sending any autonegotation information so the switch port will default to half duplex. You should never set it to full duplex unless you can set the swithport to full duplex as well - otherwise you'll get really bad performance.
 

GoingUp

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Thanks for all of the tips guys. I'm using DD-WRT v23 on a Linksys 54G router. Not quite sure how I can set the switch speed to negotiate at that proper rate.
 

Crusty

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Check out the VLAN tab, down at the bottom there are options for Full-duplex.
 

GoingUp

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And how do I have bad cables when they work fine with three other computers connected to the same ports/router?

Edit: And I bought a new router as well and the router works fine with all of my other computers, just not this damned Sony with the Intel NIC.

The problem is that it's for my uncle in another state and I have to fedex it to him, so I want to make sure that it works before I send it.
 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
And how do I have bad cables when they work fine with three other computers connected to the same ports/router?

It could be the switch port, or the NIC port too.
 

mxnerd

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There is built-in diagnostics utility for all INTEL Pro adapters, did you try that?

 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: Crusty
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
And how do I have bad cables when they work fine with three other computers connected to the same ports/router?

It could be the switch port, or the NIC port too.

I have the same problem with a new router I bought yesterday. All of my other computers just work with it fine.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

I have the same problem with a new router I bought yesterday. All of my other computers just work with it fine.

That doesn't mean the cable is good especially if they are homemade.
 

mxnerd

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From my past experience, if a NIC adapter is starting to get bad, the first thing it has problem usually is it can't get IP address from a DHCP server, even it's a brand name server card from INTEL or Broadcom.

Yet if you give it a fixed IP, the NIC will function properly.

A bad cable can also cause problem or a bad router port. Try to switch to another port.

*EDIT*

Oops, since you said if you use another router and still seeing the same problem. Then NIC itself or the cable is likely the culprit.
 

GoingUp

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Nope cables are store bought.

I said to hell with it and went out and bought another nic for $15.

We shall see if it fixes the problem.
 

alpineranger

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Did you install _all_ the correct drivers? I recall some computers have pci issues if the chipset driver isn't right.