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Would like to add a router to Verizon router, what do I do?

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Fox5

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I'd like to add a router to a verizon router. The router I'm running will most likely be running a neorouter build of tomatowrt or possibly openwrt. (sets up a vpn)

I'd like the computers on the other side of the 2nd router to be exposed to the Internet, as if they were hooked up directly to the first router. What are my options? Do I just assign a static ip address and disable dhcp on the 2nd router?
 
I'm not sure this is what you are trying to do but if so it may help. I had a Motorola combined modem/router that was not performing well. I disabled the router capabilities by 1) turning off wireless 2) turning off the built in firewall 3) disabled NAT -- all of that was done on the Motorola modem/router. I then attached a Linksys router to the modem.
 
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I don't know about FIOS, but I have Verizon DSL, with a Westell 327W, and I have done something similar. I have a secondary Netgear 834Bv2 N router running DD-WRT, behind the 327W, and exposed to the internet. The Westell has a setting, "static NAT". Any unsolicited incoming connections get redirected to the WAN port of the secondary router.
Then, I port-forward to my NAS, to have an HTTP server on the internet.
 
JackMDS said:
What the purpose of the second Router?


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The purpose of the 2nd router is:

Better wireless network.
Some advanced routing features that can't be done on the verizon router.
And just because I can really.

Anyhow, I'm pretty sure this will work just by disabling WAN and DHCP on the second router, and then setting the gateway and dns to the ip of the verizon router and plugging into one of the lan ports. Not sure if this will accomplish what I want, or if it's the equivalent of adding a few extra ethernet ports and a wireless network to the first router.
 
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For Wireless only the second Router has to be configured like this.

http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html

Otherwise the problem does not stem from DHCP and IPs it is a problem caused by double Routing, and port blocked twice.

If you Must stay with Double Router you can try to put the WAN IP of the second Router in the DMZ of the first and see what would happen.


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Fox5 said:
Anyhow, I'm pretty sure this will work just by disabling WAN and DHCP on the second router, and then setting the gateway and dns to the ip of the verizon router and plugging into one of the lan ports. Not sure if this will accomplish what I want, or if it's the equivalent of adding a few extra ethernet ports and a wireless network to the first router.
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in this scenario, you are just using the second router as an access point. for FIOS router configuration options, see http://www.dslreports.com/faq/verizonfios/3.0_Networking
 
jlazzaro said:
in this scenario, you are just using the second router as an access point. for FIOS router configuration options, see http://www.dslreports.com/faq/verizonfios/3.0_Networking
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Number 3 is what I want to do I suppose. I actually just tried out this setup with two routers at home (moving to a new place that has fios soon), and it works and accomplishes everything I want to do.

BTW, it mentions a small NAT table in the verizon router. What possible problems could that cause? Even still, since we'll probably have Verizon TV as well, it doesn't seem like there's any other options. (double NAT perhaps, but that's icky, and that confusing circular bridge option)
 
Fox5 said:
Number 3 is what I want to do I suppose. I actually just tried out this setup with two routers at home (moving to a new place that has fios soon), and it works and accomplishes everything I want to do.

BTW, it mentions a small NAT table in the verizon router. What possible problems could that cause? Even still, since we'll probably have Verizon TV as well, it doesn't seem like there's any other options. (double NAT perhaps, but that's icky, and that confusing circular bridge option)
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if you need to create a lot of connections (ie torrents) it can fill the NAT table and crash the Actiontec router. your only option for removing the Actiontec as your primary router (while still keeping other FIOS services in-tact) is option 7, but that requires a Cat5 hand off.
 
I'm not a big torrenter, but don't some games/apps use p2p transfers as their primary way of handling data? How limited is that router?
 
Fox5 said:
I'm not a big torrenter, but don't some games/apps use p2p transfers as their primary way of handling data? How limited is that router?
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Number 7 on that list is definitely the way to go. The review i read showed the stock router only supported 96 simultaneous connections which is really low. Its sad because the hardware is actually pretty good. I managed to get a hold of a second actiontec router for free and flashed it with dd-wrt. Giving me an awesome 550mhz 32mb ram router for nothing.
 
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