would like some advice re: quitting over a pay increase

[Ernieb]

Originally posted by: Patt

Originally posted by: Ernieb
I have been working for the same company since after college for almost six years now..i was making $8.50 Canadian an hour..since this past July started to make only $7.15 an hour..and im still here..because I am not going to quit myself until I find a new better job

What do you do Ernieb?

Female computer rep
Computer sales rep in a computer wholesale company

 

[CChaos]

Originally posted by: armatron
I was considering going ahead and finding another job, and going to my boss and being like "look... company XXX is going to be paying me XXk a year.. can you match that?" but I know my boss pretty well, and I think he would react with "have fun"... (a pride thing) Also.. my boss and I are decent friends... but I don't know if I want to tell him that I'm out looking for another job... GRR....
And.. I would NEED to be replaced. i.e. if I quit, they would have to hire someone else to replace me, and pay them easily 2x what I'm making now.

I did this at my last job and got a 20% raise.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Ernieb

Originally posted by: Patt

Originally posted by: Ernieb
I have been working for the same company since after college for almost six years now..i was making $8.50 Canadian an hour..since this past July started to make only $7.15 an hour..and im still here..because I am not going to quit myself until I find a new better job

What do you do Ernieb?

Female computer rep
Computer sales rep in a computer wholesale company

What does being female have to do with it? You only represent females?

 

[Patt]

Originally posted by: Ernieb

Originally posted by: Patt

Originally posted by: Ernieb
I have been working for the same company since after college for almost six years now..i was making $8.50 Canadian an hour..since this past July started to make only $7.15 an hour..and im still here..because I am not going to quit myself until I find a new better job

What do you do Ernieb?

Female computer rep
Computer sales rep in a computer wholesale company

I was a computer rep at a local store where I live, with a Computer Systems Technology (2 year) diploma from a technical college. Making poor cash. I had enough, and found myself a job doing tech support, and business analysis/some programming, and tripled my paycheque. I hate that qualified people are underpaid in this industry just because they can be.

If people stay at jobs they don't like, and aren't compensated properly for, the 'system' wins. There is someone out there who is willing, and able, to pay you the amount you deserve, and for you to enjoy your job at the same time. Good luck finding something more suitable! pm if you want any specific advice ...

 

[Ernieb]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Ernieb

Originally posted by: Patt

Originally posted by: Ernieb
I have been working for the same company since after college for almost six years now..i was making $8.50 Canadian an hour..since this past July started to make only $7.15 an hour..and im still here..because I am not going to quit myself until I find a new better job

What do you do Ernieb?

Female computer rep
Computer sales rep in a computer wholesale company

What does being female have to do with it? You only represent females?

you are right has nothing to do with it..but since posting here are always males and computer jobs are always male
so just wanted to state that im a female..no big meaning..

 

[edro]

I am in the same boat man... was an intern for 3 years, got hired on full time with ~5% increase over what I was making as an intern (but got benefits). Now ~1.5 years after I was hired, I am still making about the same, with 5000% more responsibility. That is mainly why I am interviewing for other jobs within the company.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Wanescotting
Sounds to me like you should leave. At least ask for a raise first though.

Yea I kinda agree him, arm, what do you do for a living?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

I'm praying at my job. I went from x+4% bonus (upto 10%) three years ago, no raise, then 2.5% raise. No bonuses. So I'm actually making less now than three years ago while having solid reviews.

 

[KC5AV]

As far as where to start your search, it really depends on where you live. If you are near a metropolitan area, places like dice and monster are a good idea. If you are out around the Styx, you would likely be better off looking in the local want ads.

 

[Kelemvor]

Never quit your job until you have something else lined up. However you can find out very quickly how valued you really are when you do get another job offer and you go back to your current employer and they tlel you to "Have Fun".

 

[torpid]

Do you really like your current job? Because if it were me, I probably wouldn't go back to my boss and tell him that I have a better offer unless I really wanted to stay there. IMO, if you do stay there with a pay raise after doing that, it's just going to increase tension between you and your boss, and make them think you aren't loyal. If you are slick diplomat you can avoid this impression with your boss, but it still could influence your reputation with others in the company.

 

[Injury]

Don't try to make your company "price match" for you.

Here's what you need to do, step by step:

1) Begin job search, don't tell ANYONE about it, except maybe a spouse and close family (who might be able to help in the search)
2) Interview and all that good stuff, wait for an offer that is truly good.
3) a) If you are satisfied with the company you are at, speak to your boss (schedule a formal meeting if you can) and tell him you would like a raise to what the amount the other company is offerring.. DO NOT MENTION that the amount is from another company or job prospect. Make sure you tell him the 5W's and H about why you deserve the raise.
3) b) If you aren't satisfied with the company you are at and think the new job is more prosperous... put in your two weeks notice. Skip to step 5.
4) If you offer is declined, put in your two weeks notice and accept the other company's offer. If your offer is low-balled, decide whether the difference in salary is enough to make you stay and pass up a new opportunity.
5) Enjoy which job you selected.

*Key points: Do NOT mention a different job to ANYONE remotely close to the workplace. Name your price, you'll be disappointed if what you get is not what YOU want and will have to wait another year to bring it up again.

Raises are not a bidding war. Forcing people to pay you a certain amount or lose you ALWAYS ends bad, unless you are that critical to the company that they CANNOT replace you for ANY amount. Even if the offer is accepted, it will leave a sore spot on your image within the company. Oftentimes they'll just tell you to enjoy your new job and escort you to the door.

 

[KC5AV]

Very important point: Don't use your computer at work to look for jobs. I get the task of doing security and internet usage audits at my job, and nothing crawls under my skin faster than somoene milking the time clock to look for better paying jobs.

 

[StageLeft]

Your only option is to find another job and then go to your boss. If he says "ok bye" because of his pride, then you're not great friends.

Frankly you've allowed yourself to be dicked around for too long. This is business and you've allowed yourself to be taken advantage of. I'd find a new job. In fact I'd be very weary about even staying with your current one if they promise to match, because they'll try and screw you later. Just find a new job.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Leave.

 

[NogginBoink]

It is your job to look out for number One.

If you don't protect your own interests, nobody else on this planet is going to do it for you.

Fairness, what is right, loyalties, friendships have no place in this equation. Your job is a tool. It is a tool that supplies you with money so that you can enjoy the things in life that you want to enjoy. Your job is not your identity or your social responsibility or your duty to anyone other than yourself.

If you're not a mercenary when it comes to your job you're short changing yourself.

If you want a higher paying job, go get one.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your only option is to find another job and then go to your boss. If he says "ok bye" because of his pride, then you're not great friends.

Frankly you've allowed yourself to be dicked around for too long. This is business and you've allowed yourself to be taken advantage of. I'd find a new job. In fact I'd be very weary about even staying with your current one if they promise to match, because they'll try and screw you later. Just find a new job.

well skoorb... we both live in atlanta... so keep an ear out for me!



I agree with you. In the past I haven't had a dire need for money so I haven't pressed the issue. Now money is an issue.


btw.. I do server/desktop support, along with cisco stuff.

I would like to (ideally) work for a fairly small company (less than 400-500 people),