Would a GTX 560 Ti be a decent upgrade from GTX 460?

[htwingnut]

I have this card:
EVGA 01G-P3-1380-KR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130596

Core Clock: 850MHz (Fermi)
Memory: 1GB @ 3900MHz GDDR5 256-bit
Stream Processors: 336

The biggest difference I see is the number of SP's in the 560 Ti 384 vs. 336 although clocks are about same or even less in the 560 Ti.

Then there's the GTX 570 with 480 SP's but $100 more...

Primarily looking for best performance in BF3 with my i5-2400. I will definitely wait to see how BF3 runs, but in general wondering how much better the 560 Ti is really than the GTX 460 I currently have or should I just bite for the 470?

 

[toyota]

going from that gtx460 to a gtx560 Ti would only be about 10% difference.

 

[TheAdvocate]

I own one. You can overclock it a ton, but I wouldn't bother. Wait for the the next gen cards in 2012.

 

[Grooveriding]

Terrible upgrade. Buy another 460 if you want to see some real improvement.

 

[dualsmp]

Best upgrade might be a used 480 from the for sale forum, otherwise you're probably just wasting your cash. If you can SLI your 460 that is another option.

 

[toyota]

Best upgrade might be a used 480 from the for sale forum, otherwise you're probably just wasting your cash. If you can SLI your 460 that is another option.

going from a quiet gtx460 to the godawful loud and hot gtx480 would probably be a miserable experience. plus its not a massive upgrade since his particular gtx460 is about as fast as a gtx470.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

going from a quiet gtx460 to the godawful loud and hot gtx480 would probably be a miserable experience.

I'd rather have a 480 over a 570. More memory and the 480's don't have nearly as high failure rate that the 570's do.

 

[toyota]

I'd rather have a 480 over a 570. More memory and the 480's don't have nearly as high failure rate that the 570's do.

well having used a gtx470 for a couple of weeks I would not wish the even louder and hotter running gtx480 on anyone. according to all the threads and info I have seen, the vast majority of failures for the gtx570 are the users fault.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

well having used a gtx470 for a couple of weeks I would not wish the even louder and hotter running gtx480 on anyone. according to all the threads and info I have seen, the vast majority of failures for the gtx570 are the users fault.

I never minded the sound issue. It's actually a plus when you show off your rig to people. They see some bad A graphics on the screen and at the same time they hear a sound coming from your pc that sounds like a leaf blower. lol

I've owned the 470 and 480.

 

[tviceman]

I'd rather have a 480 over a 570. More memory and the 480's don't have nearly as high failure rate that the 570's do.

well having used a gtx470 for a couple of weeks I would not wish the even louder and hotter running gtx480 on anyone. according to all the threads and info I have seen, the vast majority of failures for the gtx570 are the users fault.

I have no doubt in my mind that the failure rate is being way overblown, and lets not forget most cards come with a 2-3 year warranty anyway.

 

[Leyawiin]

going from that gtx460 to a gtx560 Ti would only be about 10% difference.

More like 20% at stock clocks, but I still wouldn't do it. And then again, who leaves either at stock clocks?

 

[VulgarDisplay]

More like 20% at stock clocks, but I still wouldn't do it. And then again, who leaves either at stock clocks?

People who realize that the extra noise, power use, and wear and tear on your card is not worth the 3-5 fps you get overclocking.

 

[toyota]

More like 20% at stock clocks, but I still wouldn't do it. And then again, who leaves either at stock clocks?

he has a gtx460 ftw so its stock clock is 850. so between his card at stock and a stock gtx560 ti would only be about 10%.

 

[toyota]

People who realize that the extra noise, power use, and wear and tear on your card is not worth the 3-5 fps you get overclocking.

well it really depends. some cards in general have lots of overclocking headroom so its silly not to use it. my gtx260 served me longer than it should have because the almost 20% oc on it directly translated into almost 20% more performance. it created no more noise and power consumption was only about 15-20 watts more under full load which is no big deal at that level of card. my 8600gt and 6600 also were great overclockers and added only a few watts and again no more noise.

this gtx570 on the other hand looks to be a poor overclocker on stock voltage so it might not be worth the hassle for pushing it past 10% or so since I prefer not to mess with voltage.

 

[Jodiuh]

I never minded the sound issue. It's actually a plus when you show off your rig to people. They see some bad A graphics on the screen and at the same time they hear a sound coming from your pc that sounds like a leaf blower. lol

I've owned the 470 and 480.

If you someone wound up next to me @ a LAN, I would probably politely ask you to move.

Hate to say it, but the monkey seems to have the best suggestions here.

 

[Madcatatlas]

I have no doubt in my mind that the failure rate is being way overblown, and lets not forget most cards come with a 2-3 year warranty anyway.

I have no doubt in my mind that the failure rate is under-reported. I am sure if we had numbers from the different AIBs or stores doing replacements, we would see the 570 and vanilla 590s topping the charts for failing circuits and generally bad boards/cards.

And lets not forget that for most consumers/buyers, going trough the hassle of sending a vital component of your computer back, is detrimental to actually wanting to use a PC.

 

[htwingnut]

Thanks guys, no ability to SLI, I have an SFF system. I'll just see how well it performs with BF3 when it comes out and go from there. The beta ran great, but that wasn't a true indication of performance since it was such a crap build.

I don't think this card has much more overclock potential since it's decently overclocked already by eVGA. I may give it a go if more performance is required, otherwise, I'll just buy a new card. I'm pretty certain it should be able to manage 1920x1200 at medium detail at least at 30+ fps. Hoping.

 

[lavaheadache]

I'd rather have a 480 over a 570. More memory and the 480's don't have nearly as high failure rate that the 570's do.

I thought 480's were a 100% failure rate... I kid I kid

 

[Carfax83]

well having used a gtx470 for a couple of weeks I would not wish the even louder and hotter running gtx480 on anyone..

Thats flat out wrong. As someone that went from 470 SLi, to 480 SLi and finally to 580 SLi, I can say the 470 is the hottest of the bunch...especially when running them in SLi.

The 470 doesn't have the external heatpipes of the 480, nor does it have the more efficient vapor chamber of the 580, so it gets real hot real fast and is very loud as well.

 

[toyota]

Thats flat out wrong. As someone that went from 470 SLi, to 480 SLi and finally to 580 SLi, I can say the 470 is the hottest of the bunch...especially when running them in SLi.

The 470 doesn't have the external heatpipes of the 480, nor does it have the more efficient vapor chamber of the 580, so it gets real hot real fast and is very loud as well.

flat out wrong? unless I am mistaken every tech site including Anandtech showed the gtx480 being both louder and hotter than the gtx470. in fact you are the very first person I can recall saying differently.

 

[Silverforce11]

Just get another cheap used 460 from ebay, SLI 460 are no slouch in any game at 1080p.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Thats flat out wrong. As someone that went from 470 SLi, to 480 SLi and finally to 580 SLi, I can say the 470 is the hottest of the bunch...especially when running them in SLi.

The 470 doesn't have the external heatpipes of the 480, nor does it have the more efficient vapor chamber of the 580, so it gets real hot real fast and is very loud as well.

I actually thought the same thing when I went from a 470 to a 480. I thought the 470 was louder too. Then I just dismissed it as wishful thinking.

 

[Carfax83]

flat out wrong? unless I am mistaken every tech site including Anandtech showed the gtx480 being both louder and hotter than the gtx470. in fact you are the very first person I can recall saying differently.

Maybe they're talking about single GPU config only. I had mine in SLi, and they were unbearably loud and hot. In fact, I used my step up benefit to upgrade to the 480s, and I never regreted my decision.

Plus, I have a lot of air circulating in my case, and since the 480s have external heatpipes, I'm sure that helped to cool them down a lot.

I actually thought the same thing when I went from a 470 to a 480. I thought the 470 was louder too. Then I just dismissed it as wishful thinking.

In my set up, the 470s were close to each other so that one of them had the fan intake slightly blocked. Undoubtedly this caused temps to increase a lot, but when I switched over to the 480s, the external heatpipes helped to mitigate that problem considerably.

 

[jacktesterson]

simply, no

 

[toyota]

oops