Would a Democratic congress ban mail-in-rebates?

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused
Yeah, that's all business needs is more regulation.

That'll sure help the economy along, now won't it?

It might help preserve self-sufficiency for the working class people in our society. How long can mega corporations keep taking and taking before there's nothing left and it all collapses? Because it is becoming quite clear to an increasing number of Americans that with less and less oversight, greed is taking over. They're making power grabs left and right. They already control the media to a large degree, largely by the systematic omission of American populist issues.

The growing gap between (increasingly fewer) rich and (increasingly more) poor Americans is becoming obscene. Nothing trickles down. It doesn't happen. To say otherwise is an insult to the collective intelligence of Americans, and it's time for America to say enough is enough!

With that said, I don't think rebates should be outlawed. Not at all. But there should be penalties when a company doesn't honor a rebate in cases where they clearly should. They should also be allowed, say, 21-30 days MAX to honor a rebate from the post mark date.

Nifty. More leftist class envy.

No one can take anything from you unless you let them. EXCEPT the government. Stop with the whining class envy and start expecting people to take responsibility for themselves. You want oversight? Oversee your own business tracnsactions by actually RESEARCHING your purchases before you buy rather than blindly buying and hoping big mother nanny-state government is watching out for you.

Remember this: For every responsibility you give up and expect the government to provide, a freedom is lost or severely limited. The more we expect government to take care of us, the more it must control us. Just as you must give up your freedom to live under your parent's support, the same is true for government.

 

[Ornery]

"...there should be penalties when a company doesn't honor a rebate in cases where they clearly should."

What recourse do you have when an online vendor fails to deliver an order you've paid for? What penalties are in place for that? Do we ask Congress to ban Web transactions? 😕

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...there should be penalties when a company doesn't honor a rebate in cases where they clearly should."

What recourse do you have when an online vendor fails to deliver an order you've paid for? What penalties are in place for that? Do we ask Congress to ban Web transactions? 😕

Huh? Where does that come from? I'm pretty sure that's fraud of some sort. Companies generally don't get away with that, whether it's throug the mail, over the phone, face to face, or over the web. Ban web transactions? What are you talking about? 😕

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Amused

Nifty. More leftist class envy.

Sorry. Think what you want because that's your right, same as mine, but that's not what motivates me to write that. Nope. I'm really not worried so much about myself. I'm worried for American children. I'm worried for American teachers. I'm worried for American police and fire fighters who have been laid off in my city. I'm worried for people who work hard for years and years only to get screwed by their companies and lose everything that they've been promised in reward for years of service (remember Enron?). Likewise, I'm worried for the people who can't find jobs that will even pull them out of poverty (have you heard the term wage slave?). I'm worried about the eroding of personal liberties and freedom since 9-11 and the Patriot act. I'm worried about how the unprecidented national debt will affect my future children and grandchildren. I'm worried for the American way.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused

Nifty. More leftist class envy.

Sorry. Think what you want because that's your right, same as mine, but that's not what motivates me to write that. Nope.

Whining about a gap between rich and poor IS class envy. Why does it matter how rich someone gets so long as no one is starving in the streets?? It doesn't.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused

Nifty. More leftist class envy.

Sorry. Think what you want because that's your right, same as mine, but that's not what motivates me to write that. Nope.

Whining about a gap between rich and poor IS class envy. Why does it matter how rich someone gets so long as no one is starving in the streets?? It doesn't.

That's not my point. I'm not whining. If we were talking, rather than typing, I wouldn't be whining. My tone is dead serious. I don't want to take away from legitimate hard work. I am worried that America is on a path that it can't sustain.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...there should be penalties when a company doesn't honor a rebate in cases where they clearly should."

What recourse do you have when an online vendor fails to deliver an order you've paid for? What penalties are in place for that? Do we ask Congress to ban Web transactions? 😕

Huh? Where does that come from? I'm pretty sure that's fraud of some sort. Companies generally don't get away with that, whether it's throug the mail, over the phone, face to face, or over the web. Ban web transactions? What are you talking about? 😕

Your recourse in either situation is the same, as far as the government is concerned. We don't need a ban on either type of transaction.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused

Nifty. More leftist class envy.

Sorry. Think what you want because that's your right, same as mine, but that's not what motivates me to write that. Nope.

Whining about a gap between rich and poor IS class envy. Why does it matter how rich someone gets so long as no one is starving in the streets?? It doesn't.

That's not my point. I'm not whining. If we were talking, rather than typing, I wouldn't be whining. My tone is dead serious. I don't want to take away from legitimate hard work. I am worried that America is on a path that it can't sustain.

"Legitimate hard work" is only worth as much as a person is willing to pay for it. No more. Labor is a commodity.

Seeing as how you have edited your previous post, I have only this to say: America is as much about economic freedom as it is about civil liberties. In fact, economic freedom IS a civil liberty. While I agree with you about the Patriot Act and will add the War on Drugs, I must disagree about your assessment of our economic structure. You do not foster economic freedom by restricting business.

Ayn Rand said it best:

"Intellectual freedom cannot exist without political freedom; political freedom cannot exist without economic freedom; a free mind and a free market are corollaries."

And cradle to grave security is NOT what the US was founded on, or for. It was founded on freedom. With freedom comes risk.

Finally, there is no such thing as a "slave wage." More from Rand:

"Do not make the mistake...of thinking that a worker is a slave and that he holds his job by his employer's permission. He does not hold it by permission - but by contract, that is, by a voluntary mutual agreement. A worker can quit his job; a slave cannot."

Anyone who stays in a low paying job without bettering themselves through education or training and making their labor worth more on the job market has only themselves to blame.

Another excellent quote:

"Poverty is not a mortgage on the labor of others - misfortune is not a mortgage on achievement - failure is not a mortgage on success - suffering is not a claim check, and its relief is not the goal of existence - man is not a sacrificial animal on anyone's altar nor for anyone's cause - life is not one huge hospital."

I know I could have put these thoughts in my own words, but this gets my point across so much easier. 🙂