would a company purposely give you a lowball offer?

Gibson486

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My gf thought she graduated in August. She has been on interviews since. Companies have been giving lots of interest in her, but they never follow through to an actual offer (One company even said the offer would come, but it never did). 1 company finally followed through, but they coudn't give her an offer. Why? because the school listed her as ungraduated. Appearently, a 2 credit independent study she did never went through because the professor never posted the grade (even though he said it was an A). She emails the professor and he said that he never got around to grading it (he has had this paper for 4 months). Well....after all is said and done, the company has waited 1.5 weeks to get everything straightned out. The best the school could do is send a letter stating that she graduated...however, it will not show on the background check until 4 weeks. She finally got the offer, but it's really low. Would companies purposely give you a lowball offer to tell you to go away? I owuld imagine that companies would not give you an offer all together, but my gf thinks otherwise.
 

MixMasterTang

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There is no way they would give you a low offer if they didn't want you to work there. They may only want you to work there if you can work there for cheap though!
 

krunchykrome

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No, i dont think companies would do that on purpose to deter candidates. If they didnt want to hire someone, why go through that trouble. Companies have no problem saying "no".

BTW, whats your gf's major?
 

Tiamat

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If they wanted your gf to go away, they would just play the silent treatment or give an outright rejection note
 

Krazy4Real

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No, if the company didn't want her at all, they would not have made an offer. Recruiters have no hesitation to say that you're not a fit for a certain position.

Edit: She may have graduated, but what are her qualifications for the position? What does she have that sets her apart from everyone else that has graduated with the same degree. Degrees only matter when they're from certain schools. Aside from that, they just show that you had the dedication for 4 years (or however long) to graduate.

Degrees give you opportunities, but experience and qualifications get you the money.
 

CPA

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I would like to know what the offer was for what position. It's been my recent experience that many new graduates have inflated expectations about salaries.
 

kranky

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Originally posted by: CPA
I would like to know what the offer was for what position. It's been my recent experience that many new graduates have inflated expectations about salaries.

And I thought I was the only one noticing that.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: CPA
I would like to know what the offer was for what position. It's been my recent experience that many new graduates have inflated expectations about salaries.

Very true; when I graduated, I had this idea that I would be making mega-bucks. I was soon afterwards dissapointed.
 

spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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No. A verbal or written offer is never extended unless they want you to work for them.

Agree that the offer is probably normal for that position and GF has out of whack expectations.
 

Leros

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: CPA
I would like to know what the offer was for what position. It's been my recent experience that many new graduates have inflated expectations about salaries.

Very true; when I graduated, I had this idea that I would be making mega-bucks. I was soon afterwards dissapointed.

All the people I know who have recently graduated from college are making between $45k and $70k. What do you consider "mega-bucks" to be?
 

gururu2

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I believe most bachelors degrees in the non-engineering/comp science field will start at 30k and peak at 45k.
 

xochi

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I would say thats about right, if not too high for a recent grad. assuming 0 experience.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: xochi
I would say thats about right, if not too high for a recent grad. assuming 0 experience.

she has more than 1.5 years experience.
 

Gibson486

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She is an accountant with a great resume.

She got an offer for 38k. It is for an Revenue and Controls Accountant. I was expecting atleast 42k for her and she was expecting 45K.
 

spidey07

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Doesn't matter. She is still going for an entry level accounting position which is what she's qualified for.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Gibson486


She is an accountant with a great resume.

She got an offer for 38k. It is for an Revenue and Controls Accountant. I was expecting atleast 42k for her and she was expecting 45K.

she should be going for public accounting.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: spidey07
Doesn't matter. She is still going for an entry level position.

I know, but she made more on her internships.

So counter for 60, see what happens. They either tell her to take a hike or you start negotiations.
 

pmoa

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: CPA
I would like to know what the offer was for what position. It's been my recent experience that many new graduates have inflated expectations about salaries.

And I thought I was the only one noticing that.

Its true here in Defense work!
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: dquan97
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: xochi
I would say thats about right, if not too high for a recent grad. assuming 0 experience.

she has more than 1.5 years experience.

as an intern?

both.

She did two internships and she also worked at Deloitte as a regular emplyee.
 

Krazy4Real

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Oct 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Gibson486


She is an accountant with a great resume.

She got an offer for 38k. It is for an Revenue and Controls Accountant. I was expecting atleast 42k for her and she was expecting 45K.

:confused:

So.... tell your gf to tell them she wants 45k. Tell her to explain to them why she thinks she's worth that salary. If she interviews well and she knows how to "sell" herself to a company they will enter negotiations with her.

Companies aren't going to just throw money at her. Just about every company will start at the low end of the totem pole and expect you to work them up. Did she happen to make the common mistake of answering the question, "What is your expected pay for this position" question?
 

JS80

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Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: dquan97
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: xochi
I would say thats about right, if not too high for a recent grad. assuming 0 experience.

she has more than 1.5 years experience.

as an intern?

both.

She did two internships and she also worked at Deloitte as a regular emplyee.

when i graduated 3 years ago i started off in private at $32k. today my all in comp will be just under 6 figs.

your gf's problem is that she's going to private out of college. she MUST do 2-5 years public in order to get anything decent in private accounting.