would a christian write these words.

TechBoyJK

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sorry, they are taken from an incomplete transcription of a newly released song.

And the angel of the lord led me into the belly of the holy mother
A chamber black as pitch
But I felt no fear, only comfort, for I was as a child in the womb
And she begged me 'hear through yonder portal which looked upon the heavens, and behold! a moaning angel'
She ascended slowly from far beyond the horizon, her light like a heavenly finger pointing the way
And on yonder wall she traced for me a path which led me, ?fine? directions, ?eight? ????? ?to? ?east? ?in? ?the? ?hole?
as my feet landed firmly upon the ?bottom? ????? of the ????? ?????
There appeared before me a heavenly star, a holy ?illusion?, the bringer of life and breath
And she spoke unto me, saying 'fear not the movement of the heavens above or the earth below
for change is what we are, my child. Righteous are those who look up and sway with the wind,
who look down and dance with the shifting of the soil, who swim with the movement of the tides,
who seek the truth around them and discover that we are and have always been in paradise.
The reflections of heaven on earth. Amen!'

And she spoke again, saying 'know, my child, that there is no devil seeking to cause guilt ?nor? ?harm? to men.
No evil, save blind faith, ignorance, and the desire for the unprepared to blame others for the devastation
left in the wake of change. Change, my child. Change is in the heavens. Change is on this earth.
Change is all around us, and if we are reflections of the divine we must roll with these changes, for we are these changes.
Eyes wide open, we must look upon the heavens as a mirror. Wide awake, aware, deeply breathing
And when the ship comes down, my child, you will be there, a true and holy survivor to inherit the kingdom of god.
You will rise above the ?rumbles? of the unprepared to greet the new day, to drink from the sweet fruit of the vine,
the water of life, the blood of the risen christ, my child.'

'Go now, child, tell them all. The ignorant, the blinded by dogma, blinded by faith, the doubters, the nay sayers.
Tell them all, child, they can not see the kingdom of god, they can not see paradise unfold before them,
they can not drink from the chalice which holds the blood of christ, the water of life, until they get right with jesus.
Until they get right with jesus.
It's always gonna be sour grapes with you, boy, until you get right with jesus.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: Auggie
it's a bit new-agey.

thats what I'm thinking. Not so much "christain" from the church, but more or less with respects to christ and god.

I'm having a debate with a friend on how someone can basically believe in Jesus but still not agree with the church.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Auggie
it's a bit new-agey.

thats what I'm thinking. Not so much "christain" from the church, but more or less with respects to christ and god.

I'm having a debate with a friend on how someone can basically believe in Jesus but still not agree with the church.

"THE church"?
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Auggie
it's a bit new-agey.

thats what I'm thinking. Not so much "christain" from the church, but more or less with respects to christ and god.

I'm having a debate with a friend on how someone can basically believe in Jesus but still not agree with the church.

"THE church"?

Exactly.
 

sandorski

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Did a Christian write that?

If Yes. The answer to your question is "Yes".

If No. I dunno.
 

Gamingphreek

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Sounds like a short story someone was writing with Christian monotones throughout it.

I'm having a debate with a friend on how someone can basically believe in Jesus but still not agree with the church.
If I may ask, what are the respective arguments.

-Kevin
 

TechBoyJK

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oh just that one might say to follow jesus you have to be a bible thumping church going christian. others may disagree....
 

Descartes

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People that call themselves Christians do a lot of non-Christian things; of course, you could argue for a few millenia and start a few wars as to what constitutes a "true" Christian, and indeed people have.

In other words, I agree with sandorski.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
oh just that one might say to follow jesus you have to be a bible thumping church going christian. others may disagree....

I bet the former doesn't consider Mormons to be Christians, but the latter does.
 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Auggie
it's a bit new-agey.

thats what I'm thinking. Not so much "christain" from the church, but more or less with respects to christ and god.

I'm having a debate with a friend on how someone can basically believe in Jesus but still not agree with the church.

Agree with "the Church"

Do you realize the scope of that statement? The "Church" does not agree with itself.
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Auggie
it's a bit new-agey.

thats what I'm thinking. Not so much "christain" from the church, but more or less with respects to christ and god.

I'm having a debate with a friend on how someone can basically believe in Jesus but still not agree with the church.

My understanding is that Jesus loves people, and the church hates people (gays, jews, democrats, etc). Generally speaking of course.

 
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I'm having a debate with a friend on how someone can basically believe in Jesus but still not agree with the church.

Same way as how you can believe in God but not in the bible.